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    Disgruntled Optimist lofter1's Avatar
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    The self-extinction is on its way.

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    I think museum cafes and gift shops are dumb, but I also think the piousness surrounding this museum is getting out of control. In our local paper, a letter writer complained about how a girl was laying on one of memorial park benches with her "rump" in the air. The letter writer proudly related how she told off this young girl. This is all starting to feel like we are in Saudi Arabia or Iran where self-proclaimed "morality police" run around and tell women to cover up and make sure the genders aren't mixing. Everyone needs to calm down and get off their high horse and save their outrage for the actual terrorists, not for people trying to raise funds for the museum.

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    I agree, BPC. There are some Nazis hanging around there yelling at people who they don't deem to be acting as if they're at a funeral. The site is about rebirth. No one intended to relinquish 16 acres for the sole purpose of mourning.

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    Disgruntled Optimist lofter1's Avatar
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    Re: Aedas

    it seems recent reports on the Museum make no mention of Aedas, citing instead Davis Brody Bond.

    What's up with Aedas regarding the Museum?

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    Even though the plaza seemed more open at this year's ceremony, during the parts of the coverage I saw, people were being quiet and respectful. A very noticeable and positive difference is that the site looks more built up than even last year.

    The museum will be closed to the public today, but they are reopening the plaza at 6pm where people can get a closeup of the tribute in light until midnight.

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    I came across this op-ed earlier by accident. A powerful read.

    May 19, 2014

    The Worst Day Of My Life Is Now New York’s Hottest Tourist Attraction

    Nearly 13 years after my sister’s death, a reluctant Sunday visit to the 9/11 Memorial Museum, where public spectacle and private grief have a permanent home together.

    By Steve Kandell

    During the noisy, chaotic third week of September 2001, my father wrote letters to the New York Times and the Post, and was published in both, asking simply that the press stop calling his daughter, who’d been murdered on live television a few days earlier, a hero. The heroes ran into the buildings; she was just a person who happened to have gotten to work a little early on a Tuesday morning, and that was horrible and heartbreaking and difficult enough without the extra assignation. On Sept. 21, the day that would have been my sister’s 28th birthday, he gave a eulogy to this effect at her memorial, speaking steady-voiced at a podium in front of several hundred friends and relatives and people who read an announcement somewhere and didn’t know what else to do with themselves.

    In the days and years after, this was less a mantra than our only way forward: Find a way to separate what happened from what happened to us, to decline participation in most of the ceremonies and pageantry in favor of figuring out on our own our family’s new geometry just like any family that has suffered a loss. Sometimes this works, sometimes it feels like its own form of grandstanding. Others, of course, feel the opposite: The world’s attention validated the size of their grief. Their sons and daughters and mothers and fathers and husbands and wives and fiancés and friends were worth starting a war over. We understood this and respected this and just chose another, quieter way, at least until my father got sick and couldn’t stop blurting it out, over and over, to strangers in parking lots.

    Which is why the corner of Greenwich and Liberty on this bright Sunday afternoon, amid a riot of mid-spring tourists with wrinkled maps and exposed knees taking photos of cranes, is the very last place I should be. I am allowed to enter the 9/11 Museum a few days before this week’s grand opening for the general public, but why would I want that? Why would I accept an invitation to a roughly $350 million, 110,000-square-foot refutation of everything we tried to practice, a gleaming monument to What Happened, not What Happened to Us? Something snapped while reading about the gift shop — I didn’t want to duck and hide, I wanted to run straight into the absurdity and horror and feel every bit of the righteous indignation and come out the other side raw. I call my mother to tell her I’m doing this but that she shouldn’t come, and she doesn’t disagree. I find the ticket booth, exhale deeply, and say the magic words.

    After the full-bore TSA-style security check, complete with body scan, there’s a dark corridor with word clouds and photographs projected onto tower-like pillars, while disembodied voices tell snippets of stories about the morning, an overture warning us about the symphony ahead. We are eased into it in a sense, lowered into the maw down a ramp along the original foundation of the towers, a marvel of engineering. Girders and rubble and broken staircases, among the ruins. An impossibly mangled hook-and-ladder truck, showroom parked.

    The crowded memorial hall is lined with photos of everyone who died and touchscreen consoles that call up their obituaries; my sister is found, as she has been for 12 1/2 years and will be forever, between Gavkharoy Kamardinova and Howard Lee Kane. The names are read aloud on a loop in the adjacent darkened atrium lined with benches. My sister’s profile has incorrect information in it that we’d never signed off on or even seen, and the annoyance is tempered by the realization that nonparticipation in the pageantry has its drawbacks. It also occurs to me that I am the only person here alone.

    The main attraction is through a revolving door: a minute-by-minute re-creation of the morning and its aftermath, from video of Matt Lauer’s first distracted, furrowed brow at the end of an interview with some author on the Today show and on and on through the top of the spire on Liberty Tower. As claustrophobic as the outer area is cavernous, this part is the haunted house — I wander to a tucked-away corner to find a giant photo of people leaping from the burning building and yell, “****!” like someone jumped out and grabbed me, and no one bats an eye. Frayed nerves are the baseline condition.

    There’s a multimedia presentation depicting how, precisely, the towers collapsed. A wing for Pennsylvania and the Pentagon, tape loops of survivors telling how they got out. Smoke and fire and ash and twisted metal and the husk of an ambulance. Tattered flags, handwritten pleas for help, missing persons flyers, screams. Dusty, ownerless Topsiders encased in glass. A soot-coated bike rack, as it was found. Countless personal artifacts, artfully destroyed. The posters for King Kong and Manhattan and Working Girl with the towers, resplendent. The president addressing the nation and vowing steely, determined revenge. Hallways dedicated to tracing the hijackers’ timeline and of al-Qaeda’s rise and a video wall with people like Hillary Clinton laying out the justification for the unending war on terror, tying grief inextricably, cannily to political ideology in a way that might seem crass if I were able to process it all with a clear head. There is no way out until the end, and it’s all so numbing that maybe this is the whole point: The exhibition starts with one shining, unfathomably terrible morning and winds up as all of our lives, as banal and constant as laundry, bottomless. I can feel the sweat that went into making this not seem tacky, of wanting to show respect, but also wanting to show every last bit of carnage and visceral whomp to justify the $24 price of admission — vulgarity with the noblest intentions.

    The fact that everyone else here has VIP status grimly similar to mine is the lone saving grace; the prospect of experiencing this stroll down waking nightmare lane with tuned-out schoolkids or spectacle-seekers would be too much. There are FDNY T-shirts and search-and-rescue sweatshirts and no one quite makes eye contact with anyone else, and that’s just fine. I think now of every war memorial I ever yawned through on a class trip, how someone else’s past horror was my vacant diversion and maybe I learned something but I didn’t feel anything. Everyone should have a museum dedicated to the worst day of their life and be forced to attend it with a bunch of tourists from Denmark. Annotated divorce papers blown up and mounted, interactive exhibits detailing how your mom’s last round of chemo didn’t take, souvenir T-shirts emblazoned with your best friend’s last words before the car crash. And you should have to see for yourself how little your pain matters to a family of five who need to get some food before the kids melt down. Or maybe worse, watch it be co-opted by people who want, for whatever reason, to feel that connection so acutely.

    There are two recording booths for people to tell their own stories of the day, or remembrances of loved ones who were lost. A man exits one of the confessionals, sees me, shakes his head, and says, “Amazing idea.” I enter, sit down, and stare at the screen ahead and say Shari’s name and how I was 3,000 miles away that morning and didn’t even know she was working there until I got the call at 6 in the morning and that I wish I had seen her more in those last years and remembered more about her and had something better prepared to say and that I wished my kids would have known her and that she’d think it’s pretty ****ing weird that I’m talking about her to an invisible camera in the bowels of a museum dedicated to the fact that she was killed by an airplane while sitting at her desk and at some point the timer is up.

    By the time I finally reach the gift shop, the indignation I’ve been counting on just isn’t there. I stare at the $39 hoodies and the rescue vests for dogs and the earrings and the scarves and the United We Stand wool blankets waiting for that rush and can’t muster so much as a sigh. The events of the day have already been exploited and sold in ways previously incomprehensible, why get mad at a commemorative T-shirt now? This tchotchke store — this building, this experience — is nothing more than the logical endpoint for our most reliably commodifiable national tragedy. If you want to bring a coffee table book full of photos of cadaver dogs sniffing through smoking rubble back home to wherever you’re from, hey, that’s great. This is America, you can buy what you want; they hate our freedom to buy what we want. People will find moments of grace or enlightenment or even peace from coming here, I don’t need to be one of them. I’ll probably bring my son one day once I realize I won’t have the words to explain. It can be of use. It’s fine. I don’t know.

    There is one small room on the main floor of the museum that is in fact not operated by the museum itself and is not available even to many of the families. Tucked away off to the side, behind an unmarked door, it is overseen by the medical examiner’s office. This is called the reflection room.

    To get past the door, one must register for an appointment. I have not done this, but I present a case number, which means the official from the medical examiner’s office can indeed let me through — just a few days into this museum’s existence, and a few days before it’s even officially open, and already people have apparently tried lying about dead relatives to get in here. The official’s name is Ben, and he walks with me into a small waiting room with a couple of chairs and a large photo of a candlelight vigil, probably from Union Square. Ben tells me softly that no one from the museum is allowed past this part of the room, and even then, only for cleaning. My family is welcome whenever the museum is open.

    He points me around the corner to a cramped, dark space but does not follow. A box of tissues sits on a wooden bench and a family huddles silently looking through a window, about 4 feet by 5 feet. They leave almost instantly and I can now see what is through the window: aisles of dark-stained wood cabinets of rosewood or teak maybe, floor to ceiling, lit by small overhead spotlights. I let out a loud, sharp laugh.

    Inside these cabinets are the remains that, after nearly 13 years of the most rigorous testing known to man, have not been matched to the DNA of any of the victims. Just drawers and drawers full of…stuff. I wouldn’t really want to think too hard about what exactly that stuff is, but given that it’s a picture window looking out at cabinetry, there isn’t really anything else to think about. This chamber is meant to be a sanctuary, but I cannot ruminate about the arbitrary cruelty of the universe or lament the vagaries of loss and love because all there is to see are armoires packed with carefully labeled bags of flesh too ruined and desiccated even for science. My sister is among the many for whom there have been no remains recovered whatsoever. Vaporized. So there’s no grave to visit, there never will be. Just this theatrically lit Ikea warehouse behind a panel of glass.

    I remember being at the armory on the east side with my parents, maybe three days after — I was on the very first flight allowed out of San Francisco, a small army of friends mobilized to take care of my dog for however long I’d be gone — to hand over an old hairbrush of my sister’s for DNA matching. A nun had my mom swab the inside of her mouth with a Q-tip to help with identification, although the nun said, kindly but nervously, that everything would be fine and none of this would be necessary. My mother comforted the nun and said it was pretty clear that everything wasn’t going to be fine, but she appreciated the sentiment.

    The presence of the tomb has been a point of contention among families more vocal than ours who want more from a final resting place than the basement of this museum of unnatural history. I don’t know how to feel about the matter because to do so would require any of this making even a bit of sense. It’s dumb, sure, but what could possibly be less dumb? Where is the right place to store pounds of unidentifiable human tissue so that future generations can pay their respects? I would not wish what’s happened to my family on anyone, but I begrudgingly admire its infinite weirdness, still, after all this time. A hushed flute rendition of “Amazing Grace” wafts reverently over the escalators as I head back up to sunlight.

    © 2014 BuzzFeed, Inc.

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    An interesting blog post about two visitors' experiences at the museum and its cafe.

    November 20, 2014

    The Best Restaurant in New York Is: The 9/11 Memorial & Museum

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    Last edited by BigMac; January 2nd, 2015 at 11:24 PM.

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    First time I've seen this plaque:

    (James McChesney Ranson on Facebook)

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    New York Times
    May 15, 2015

    September 11 Museum Drew 2.7 Million Visitors in First Year


    The National September 11 Memorial Museum opened last May

    The National September 11 Memorial Museum marked its first year of operations on Friday, saying that it hosted about 2.7 million visitors during that period and slightly exceeded attendance projections.

    In an interview, Joe Daniels, the president and chief executive of the museum, said that largely based on online tickets sales, the museum was able to determine that the visitors came from all 50 states and from more than 150 countries since its dedicated opening on May 15 of last year.

    Mr. Daniels said that the attendance projections for the first year were 2.5 million visitors, and that for this calendar year the museum expects to draw about 2.8 million people.

    “9/11 did not start that day and it has not ended in its aftermath,” Mr. Daniels said, referring to the larger issue of terrorism. He described the museum as an “incredible educational tool to show the broader context of this event.”

    To signify the one-year anniversary, the National 9/11 flag, a frayed flag that was recovered from ground zero and restored in so-called “stitching ceremonies” around the country, will be displayed on May 21, the date that the museum opened to the public in 2014.

    The $24 adult admission price has significantly helped fund the $70 million operating budget for the museum and the memorial, along with retail sales of items at its store, donations and fundraising. This is critical given that the museum does not receive any government money.

    But, Mr. Daniels said: “We are working to secure some federal contributions. We have relationships with Congress folks who want to help out.”

    He added, “We are optimistic about the museum’s financial health, and health is attractive to donors.”

    Mr. Daniels said that “the next frontier” for the museum is its programs, such as one that deals with current events in the Middle East and the violent spread of Islamic radicalism.

    Since the 10-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, an estimated 19 million people have visited the memorial outside of the museum. The memorial, comprising two large waterfalls where the towers of the World Trade Center once stood, is free.

    © 2015 The New York Times Company

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    Wow. At $24 a head that roughly paid for the operating budget.

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    April 9, 2016

    Donald Trump visits 9/11 museum, donates $100K

    By Noah Gray and Eli Watkins

    Donald Trump made an unannounced stop at the National September 11 Museum Saturday morning in New York City.

    Trump did not visit the memorial itself but the adjacent museum, which he toured with his wife, Melania, and his staff. Michael Frazier, a spokesman for the museum, later said Trump made a $100,000 donation.

    After the visit, which lasted less than a half hour, Trump and his entourage headed back to Trump Tower. They declined to take questions from reporters.

    A statement from Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks said the Trumps "were given a tour by museum president and CEO Joe Daniels, along with other museum officials and representatives of the (New York Police Department) and (Port Authority Police Department)."

    "They were incredibly impressed with the museum, a monument representative of all of the wonderful people who tragically lost their lives and the families who have suffered so greatly," Hicks said.

    The Manhattan billionaire often references 9/11 on the campaign trail, recently invoking his hometown's response to the attacks as he hit Sen. Ted Cruz for the Texas senator's "New York values" line.

    "Remember when he started lecturing me on New York values like we're no good?" Trump said at a rally Wednesday. "We all know people who died, and I've got this guy standing over there looking at me and talking to me about 'New York values' with scorn on his face, with hatred of New York."

    The Trump campaign hit Cruz again -- though not by name -- after the museum visit, saying in its statement, "This is what 'New York values' are really all about."

    The clash between Trump and Cruz over "New York values" at a debate in January marked the end of their warm treatment of each other -- and the beginning of an increasingly hostile, personal fight for their party's nomination.

    Prior to that, Trump sparked controversy last year for claiming to have seen footage of "thousands and thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating at the destruction of the World Trade Center. Trump's claim was widely recognized as false and drew scorn from many Muslims offended by the statement.

    © 2016 Cable News Network. Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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