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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    I like how they're connecting BPC to the rest of downtown. When I lived there pre-9/11, it was isolated. With the newly reconfigured West St., it will not be isolated any more.
    I'm of the same mind. It's fantastic that the stairway isn't disappearing but perhaps the most important part of the plan is the fact that WFC will actually be accessible to West Street with stores and a real sense of street rather than the old suburban-style lawns. The underground connection to the transit hub and the Fulton St. structure should also do a lot to attract more people to the WFC and waterfront.

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    This combined with the new WTC is going to be truly spectacular, and it's hard to imagine it without it's grand centerpiece... the stairs. A nice job by them.

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    Now lets get those save the stairs people on removing the $20 entrance fee at the memorial museum, they're on a roll.

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    Retail Told to Hightail It Out of World Financial Center


    The southern corridor of the World Financial Center where more stores will be closing.

    The departure in May of Godiva Chocolates from the Winter Garden was a wake-up call for retailers in the south corridor of the World Financial Center (WFC), which stretches from the Winter Garden to the Liberty Street lobby of One WFC. When Brookfield Properties formally announced in June its redesign plan, the September closing of stores south of the Winter Garden became disturbingly real for customers and employees of the stores. The space will eventually become a food market and dining destination, while retail space (presumably with new tenants) is slated to move elsewhere in the WFC complex. But many of these long-time retail tenants are trying to find new homes close to the community, or hoping that space may become available for them elsewhere in the WFC.

    Abraham Merchant, owner of SouthWest NY, has operated his restaurant in the WFC since 1999, and would like to remain Downtown. He wrote in a recent letter that "management is actively negotiating with several parties to lease a nearby location where a new SouthWest NY restaurant can open and continue to serve our loyal guests." He intends to issue a statement when this has been finalized.

    Urban Athletics is expecting to move to new quarters Downtown, unless something opens up in the WFC. The store, which survived 9/11 and has done business in its current location for 16 years, is owned by Battery Park City residents Cara and Jerry Macari. "It was a long comeback trail. We had to make new residential and tenant relationships and build ourselves back up. Now we're doing well and we'd like to recoup the loss of some of the recession years," said Ms. Macari. "Plus it's sad to leave. We've watched kids grow up over 16 years. Our business is based on relationships, so our goal is to stay as close to the community as possible."

    "We've had very supportive tenant partners here," she added. Most recently, from spring to the middle of June, Urban Athletics ran a promotion with American Express (AMEX) that involved weekly training stops at the shop by members of AMEX's 900-member Corporate Challenge team. "They would meet here, drop their bags and go run, and then we'd have a post-run event, like with Adidas," said Ms. Macari.

    Karen Barwick, owner of Boomerang Toys, said "we are very sad to be leaving the World Financial Center and we hope to be back in 2013. In the meantime we do have another location in Tribeca, less than a ten-minute walk from our WFC shop." That store is at 119 West Broadway (between Duane and Reade Streets). "We really appreciate our loyal customers and hope they will continue to patronize Boomerang Toys in Tribeca." She added that for those that are not able to get to Tribeca, Boomerang also sells toys online

    Four other retailers facing displacement are not actively seeking new locations. Cobbler Express Shoe Shine is expecting to operate upstairs in one of the WFC's open hallways for the foreseeable future. Ciao Gelato expects to close in September. The chain has several locations in the City, the closest of which is at 285 Mott Street, along with a larger store in Grand Central Terminal that offers crepes and coffee, as well as ice cream. Add Accessories and Hallmark are waiting to hear back about space availability on the second floor. Add Accessories has another location in Soho, at 461 West Broadway. Hallmark's closest locations are at Seven Hanover Square and 140 Church Street.


    Dianne Renzulli
    photo by Robert Simko

    Robert Simko, Publisher
    Broadsheet Daily
    robert@ebroadsheet.com 212-912-1106




    * The southern retail corridor runs from the Winter Garden to the lobby of 2WFC, not 1WFC.

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    One thing at the WFC that could use addressing is the big loading entrance along West Street, next to where the new pedestrian pavilion will go in.

    Probably it would be cost prohibitive, but it would be good if they could sink the entry and somehow deck over that area just outside the building so there would be a continuous & clear pedestrian area between the WFC and West Street ...

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    Goldman Sachs would start whining that it is a terrorist threat.

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    To sink the driveway, they would have to breach the seawall; it would be the same procedure as the tunnel/pavilion.

    The permanent walkway will run next to the bikeway, in front of the pavilion, so the freight entrance will be like a street crosswalk.

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    Food courts & restaurants are fine, but if they want more than just WFC employees to visit the retails, it isn't wise to separate the retail from the food with too much distance.

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    It looks like they're moving restaurants out of the Courtyard, which will become two-level retail. The upper level was designed for exhibits, but never got much use. I think PJ Clarke is the only restaurant that will remain north of the Winter Garden, maybe also Starbucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post

    One thing at the WFC that could use addressing is the big loading entrance along West Street, next to where the new pedestrian pavilion will go in.

    Probably it would be cost prohibitive, but it would be good if they could sink the entry and somehow deck over that area just outside the building so there would be a continuous & clear pedestrian area between the WFC and West Street ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post

    To sink the driveway, they would have to breach the seawall...
    Yesterday I noticed that they are digging a major ramp / trench along the western side of where the seawall lines West Street, starting from a point just north of Liberty Street and running on a decline towards the WFC loading dock. Perhaps they've figured out a way to get loading entry away from West Street across from the Memorial and move it out of the way, hopefully with a covered area outside and south of the Winter Garden. It could also open up the base of 2WFC for more advantageous use.

    Here's how that area looks today on the webcam (in the photo at my post above from 2 weeks ago there's no indication of digging having started) ...

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    Here's what I was able to shoot of the work yesterday ...

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    ^
    I thought that's what it might be when they began digging months ago. But then I realized there would be problems.

    First of all, it doesn't solve the original problem, just moves it, and maybe makes it worse. With a ramp running north-south, more of the area is blocked from pedestrians. And you're still going to have to cross the pedestrian walkway.

    The present location with a long road allows trucks to exit and enter West St smoothly.

    It's narrow, and large trucks would have a difficult time turning into the building.

    There's a separate project to repair the seawall that began before 09/11. I think the ramp is part of it.

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    Sitting Pretty


    Brookfield will preserve the World Financial Center's Grand Staircase designed by Cesar Pelli.

    Tom Stoelker



    After facing substantial opposition from community leaders and local politicians, Brookfield Properties backed away from a plan to demolish the Cesar Pelli-designed Grand Staircase in the Winter Garden of the World Financial Center (WFC). For years, the stairs conjured the money and power of the go-go ’80s. In “Bonfire of the Vanities,” the opening scene’s long tracking shot culminates in Bruce Willis’ master-of-the-universe moment at the top of the stairs. But after 9/11, their communal aspect became more important. “It was always a town square,” Community Board 1 chair Julie Menin said of the Garden. “The stairs were a central meeting spot. We were delighted they were saved, because they serve both practical and symbolic purposes from before 9/11 and after.”

    Brookfield has now unveiled a $250 million plan for high-end retail and restaurants by Pelli Clarke Pelli Architects that includes revamping most of the West Street facade while keeping the stairs intact. The initial reasons for demolishing the stairs involved congested traffic flow behind the stairs and an obsolete purpose. With the original World Trade Center, the towers’ raised platform led to a bridge across West Street directing pedestrian traffic to WFC’s lobby level, making the lobby levels of both complexes about two stories above street level. With the new World Trade Center now at street level the Grand Staircase will no longer serve that connecting function.



    The challenge is to accommodate nearly 35,000 rush hour commuters, most of them office workers on their way from underground transit to second floor lobbies. Thrown into that mix will be thousands of shoppers and tourists. Back in 2002, Brookfield spent $50 million to restore the garden and staircase. Craig Copeland was a team leader for PCP at the time and remembers a debate focused on how to handle the West Street facade, which overlooked the massive cleanup and rebuilding effort. “We had to ask, ‘Are we going to shutter the building or open it up?’”

    Embracing new technologies, the team designed a glass wall and balcony overlooking the construction site at the top of the stairs. Today, thousands visit. “We anticipated it would be popular but that wasn’t our motivation,” said Copeland. “It was a way to connect back to the city.” It’s a concept that honors the new holistic vision of downtown. Or, as City Planning commissioner Amanda Burden put it: “The ‘back’ of the World Financial Center should look like a front.”

    In the new PCP design, the balcony will also stay, but a generous pavilion will jut out east toward West Street, overlooking Memorial Plaza. The design anticipates a retail tenant for the area beneath the staircase, perhaps a café. The space is prime as it will be the first thing commuters see when they enter the pavilion from underground transportation. Six elevators connecting to transit will run beneath West Street and emerge in the pavilion’s center. From there, two retail-lined corridors wrap around the Grand Staircase for access to the Winter Garden. Changes inside will result from editing: two muddy-rose colored marble walls flanking the stairs on the first floor will be eliminated in favor of glass to give visitors a glimpse of daylight as they pass through. Construction begins in October with completion expected in 2013.

    http://www.archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=5555

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    GOOD NEWS

    I love the stairs. Good to know they'll keep them. Thx for posting this article Merry.

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    The neighborhood had been in a panic last week. An article in the Tribeca Citizen was titled:

    Palmicide at the Winter Garden

    Brookfield was cutting down the palm trees.

    Three years ago, I posted these:





    The trees were outgrowing their house.

    8/12 - 8/23/13: Palm Trees Replacement

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    Odd, they just replaced all of them after 9/11.

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