Easier than the Santa Claus thing.
please tell me that's not what thy are replacing that grand staircase with?
I am shocked that they are planning to get rid of the marble staircases, and the fact that those palm trees are actually real.
Looking at the picture above, it is hard to tell if the stairs would be replaced by that, since the escalators are currently located outside of the Winter Garden. This looks more like an extension (I hope).
Yea, this is the extension,. The view from which it is taken seems to be the same view that's at the top of the staircase. You can also tell by the driveway on the right. The Winter Garden now is tucked into the complex and does not extend out like the rendering shows.
Surprised there's not a glass ceiling, makes me believe Brookfield is planning additional office space or retail above it.
I believe they plan to bump much of the WFC's eastern frontage. Perfect opportunity for some elevated outdoor eating areas overlooking the memorial..
In case you haven't seen this video yet:
Last edited by Derek2k3; September 23rd, 2010 at 08:52 AM.
Even if it's an extension, the staircase is probably still toast. Although, there is a slight chance that the community in BPC got their point across and persuaded them to integrate it into this extension.
I'm kind of disappointed about the retail additions, too. I rather like the little patches of grass that the WFC buildings have in front of them. It's like their own itty bitty lawns.
Currently the exterior pathway along the east side of WFC is elevated, with the (former) grassy area sloping down towards West Street. It's a tricky spot for an extension as the area between the existing WFC buildings and West Street is narrow, and will still have to accommodate both the bike path and a pedestrian walkway. And, if I remember correctly, there used to be cut-ins from West Street along here for bus stops.
When I first saw this render I thought it was one of the the (re-worked) 2007 proposals for Hudson Yards and had nothing to do with the WTC / WFC . What I now recognize as the Calatrava Hub (in the distance, above) I'd mistaken for the awkward pavilion proposed by Brookfield / SOM / SANAA at HY:
Last edited by lofter1; September 23rd, 2010 at 12:53 PM.
I'll try to stop by and take a look at the area with this rendering in mind.
The walkway pre-09/11 was about at the distance of the freight entrance walls. About 100 feet from the Winter Garden glass.
There was the walkway, a separator, the bikeway, another separator, a two-lane road for trucks and taxis, another separator, and the main roadway.
The tempy roadway now bends to about where the bikeway was. The permanent road will also bend, while the original road was straight. But that road had a very large median to accommodate the WTC garage portals. Remember the hairpin garage exit ramp at Vesey?
Hard to say if more or less room will be available.
That stretch of West Street fronting onto WFC also had big vent structures in the median just to the west of the North Tower. (And a ~40' wall rising to the superblock / plaza level above.)
PHOTO of street level outside 1 WTC pre-9/11, looking across West Street.
Map showing the medians along this stretch: