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    Default Is NYC. dirty?

    Habit. Littering is habitual here.

    Even the garbage men litter.

    The corner trash cans are always full.

    You almost HAVE to litter sometimes.

    Our trash just swirls around us in the wind!

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    * *Well sinse our trash cans are full, that tells us that we are not a littering people. The deal about Detriot is that the people are too busy making cars to litter. Especially sinse Detroit is more of an industrial city than a corporate one. They may have more problems breathing, and catching 3 headed fish in their waters. We just have a few extra plastic bags floating around, hell we are thinking of reopening our dirtiest river as a beach, what does that tell you.
    * * I have the article about it somewhere in my house, if i find it i will paste it on the site. It was last year when they proposed to create beaches on the Manhattan shoreline because the levels of PCP and other toxins are almost non existant here. Most have flowed up towards Weschester and Albany. Anyway, they were thinking of making from 42nd street to 79th public beach on the west side.

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    Default Is NYC. dirty?

    Rivers may be cleaner but the streets certainly are not.

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    Yeah, New York can be dirty in some places. The streets are littered with trash. Where I am, its dirty in some places. How is the air in New York? Houston's air is really dirty and can be bad for you sometimes.

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    Our beaches are trashed
    Find rats, syringes


    Most city-run beaches are littered with a disgusting array of trash, including food wrappers, cigarette butts - and in one case, a dead rat, a new City Council review found.
    Five of the seven public beaches operated by the city Parks Department had stomach-turning "amounts of floatable debris and packaging waste," according to the report being released today.

    The investigators, who made two visits last month to each beach, found an abundance of "tires, condoms, syringes, wigs, dead rodents and used sanitary napkins," often within feet of playing children, the report says.

    The worst of the lot was South Beach on Staten Island, which offered a menu of repulsive sights on the beach, along with a magnificent view of the Verrazano Bridge and Lower New York Bay.

    "The water is gooey!" screamed a young woman as she ran out of the water, one investigator said.

    Parks officials had no comment, but one noted that beach conditions can vary depending on the time of day and weather.

    And a visit to South Beach on Friday by a Daily News reporter found it clean and with more fans than detractors.

    "It seems clean enough to me," said Robert Anderson, 75, a Wagner College history professor who uses the beach three or four times a week. "Where else can you go to see this vista? It's very peaceful."

    Lydia Galicia, 24, who lives in the South Beach section, was surprised at the Council's findings.

    "It can't be!" she insisted. "I come here all the time, and South Beach is the most beautiful part of Staten Island I've been to. I met my fiancé here."

    But Steven Gard, 15, also of South Beach, disagreed, saying: "It's not even real sand, and the beach is dirty. Every couple of days things float in. I would not go in the water at all."

    Other dirty beaches included Coney Island Beach in Brooklyn, Orchard Beach in the Bronx, Midland Beach on Staten Island and sections of Rockaway Beach in Queens.

    Manhattan Beach in southeastern Brooklyn was found to be "very well-maintained and clean." And the only litter found at the Wolfe's Pond Park beach on Staten Island was seaweed and kelp.


    South Beach, S.I.

    Investigators saw:

    -A young woman dash out of the water, screaming, “The water is gooey!”
    -A child emerge from the water with cigarette butts and a potato chip bag stuck to him.
    -A dead rat.
    -Several large, white chunks of an unidentified substance floating in the water.
    -Not 1 square foot that was free of litter.


    Wolfe’s Pond Park, S.I.

    Investigators say:

    -Beach was quite clean, other than large amounts of seaweed and rocks.
    -There were no large items of garbage on the sand or in the water.
    -Only a few straws, food wrappers and a shoe. The beach was clean, although kelp was found all along the beach.

    Source: City Council Oversight and Investigations Committee
    Originally published on August 8, 2004

    All contents © 2004 Daily News, L.P.


    By Stefan C. Friedman
    August 8, 2004

    City beaches more closely resemble garbage dumps than waterfront retreats, a City Council investigation has found.

    Condoms, tampon applicators and motor-oil containers were among the refuse discovered at five of the city's seven beaches, the investigators contend in their report entitled "Swimming in Trash?" Even a dead rat was found on South Beach in Staten Island.

    "Most New Yorkers can't afford to go to the Hamptons or the Caribbean for sun, surf and sand," said Councilman Eric Gioia (D-Queens), who chairs the council's Investigations Division.

    They found South Beach to be "by far the worst beach surveyed," adding that on their second visit, "there was not a foot radius where the surface of the water and sand had no trash or debris covering the surface."

    Gioia did concede two of the seven beaches — Wolfe's Pond Park in Staten Island and Manhattan Beach in Brooklyn — were "spotless."

    Parks spokeswoman Megan Sheekey said, "The quality of our city's beaches far exceeds the scientific quality of this report."

    Copyright 2004 NYP Holdings, Inc.

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    August 8, 2004

    Welcome to Germ City - better wash your hands on the way out.

    Living on the surfaces of New York and the hands of its residents are a batch of nasties - from flesh-eating bacteria lurking on pay phones to diarrhea-inducing organisms crawling on MetroCard machines, a Post investigation has found.

    Working under the direction of Dr. Phillip Tierno, director of the Department of Microbiology and Pathology at the NYU School of Medicine, Post journalists armed themselves with swabs and took to the streets last week to track down the invisible menaces.

    Ironically, of the nearly 30 specimens collected, the greatest accumulation of E.coli - a fecal organism spread by people's failure to wash their hands - was found on the door handle at 125 Worth St., the headquarters of the City Department of Health.

    "It was off the charts," Tierno said.

    The culture showed a variety of germs, including E.coli and the highly pathogenic Pseudomonas aeruginosa, which can cause antibiotic-resistant infections.

    "You know what I'm thinking? Disgusting!" said Kathleen Bethel, 65, who was picking up her birth certificate at the DOH.

    "These are the people who are supposed to take care of all these problems. Next time I need to pick up anything from here, I'm just going to call."

    The only other sample that rivaled the Department of Heath for pure grubbiness was a MetroCard touch screen at Grand Central Station, which was covered in E.coli and also showed Staphylococcus aureus, which can cause diarrhea.

    The Times Square payphone at the corner of Seventh Avenue and 47th Street should only be used in an emergency. Tests showed it was home to E.coli as well as the frightening Beta Streptococcus Group A, which can cause strep throat in some strains and flesh-eating infections in others.

    The tests did not show which strains of the various bacteria were present. The tests also did not show the presence of viruses, but Tierno says E.coli is an indicator of much more dangerous elements like salmonella or hepatitis A.

    "That's scary," said Coalter Pollock, 32, of Summit, N.J. "When you pick up the phone, you know, you do the two-finger thing."

    E.coli was also found on the water fountain just inside Central Park on the west side of Heckscher Ballfields.

    If you're into keeping fit - and healthy - be sure to shower after visiting the gym.

    At the Crunch gym on Lafayette Street, germs were found running wild on the hand grips of exercise machines.

    E.coli, Enterococci (another fecal germ) and the harmless Sarcinia was detected on the sit-up machine.

    On the gym's ballet bar was Staphylococcus aureus and Group B Strep, a vaginal germ that can cause problems for pregnant mothers.

    "I always take a shower when I'm done working out," said Lawton Tootle, 62, of Manhattan. "And I make sure not to lick the ballet bar!"

    Getting a quick wad of cash also proved to be a dirty business.

    At the Chase ATM in Madison Square Garden lurked un-laundered germs.

    As expected, our rivals at The Daily News weren't totally clean either. Tests found the door to their offices contained a variety of germs, including the dreaded Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

    It seems one of few germ-free zones was atop the Empire State Building, where swabs of the viewers only showed the presence of only harmless organisms.

    "The constant wind probably keeps germs from staying on," said Tierno, the author of "The Secret Life of Germs."

    Tierno also had an explanation why the seat of taxi 6A36 showed no germ growth at all.

    "Someone may have just wiped it all off when they slid out of the seat," he said.

    New Yorkers should be taking a leaf out of tycoon Donald Trump's book if they want to stay clean he tries to avoid shaking hands.

    One of the biggest contributors to the spread of germs and people getting sick is a lack of hand washing, says Tierno.

    "You should wash your hands for 15 to 20 seconds, getting under your nails, rinse and repeat," said Tierno.

    Additional reporting by Lindsay Powers and Marianne Garvey


    Alcaligenes: usually harmless environmental germ

    Bacillus: some strains can cause diarrhea

    Beta Streptococcus Group A: some strains are flesh-eating organisms

    E.coli: fecal organism, can cause respiratory, urinary-tract and bloodstream infections, is an indicator of salmonella and hepatitis A

    Eikenella: usually harmless organism that lives in crevice of teeth, cause an infection of the heart lining and, in rare cases, death

    Enterobacter: possible virulent fecal organism, can cause respiratory or urinary-tract infections

    Enterococci: fecal organism, can cause infections

    Group B Strep: vaginal bacteria, not present in all women, can cause meningitis in neonatal infants

    Pseudomonas aeruginosa: can cause highly antibiotic-resistant infections

    Sarcinia: usually harmless environmental germ

    Serratia: fecal and environmental organism, can cause infections

    Staphylococcus aureus: highly pathogenic organism, can cause diarrhea and skin infections

    Copyright 2004 NYP Holdings, Inc.

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    Giff sandbags beaches
    Calls surf dirty & irks mayor

    Diamond Lara, 3, picks up her flip-flop sandal,
    which is inches away from discarded latex glove on beach
    at Coney Island yesterday.


    MAYOR BLOOMBERG and City Council Speaker Gifford Miller kicked up some sand yesterday as they squabbled over the state of city beaches.

    Miller said a Council investigation found beaches littered with syringes, tires, condoms, a wig and even a dead rat.

    "Things like that have no business being on the beach," Miller (D-Manhattan) said during a news conference at Coney Island.

    But Bloomberg blasted the Council study as grandstanding and unscientific.

    "Going out just to get your names in the paper is fine," Bloomberg said. "Why you guys [the press] bother to publish it, I don't know. The fact of the matter is, attendance at the beaches this year - and the weather hasn't been great - is up a million people over what it was before."

    Miller, who is eying a mayoral run against Bloomberg next year, said the Council study deemed Coney Island and South Beach on Staten Island the dirtiest of the city's seven beaches.

    "Our city's beaches are a treasure for the millions of families who visit them every summer and they need to be protected," he said.

    Parks Department spokeswoman Megan Sheekey fired back, "The intense use of our beaches is the best proof that the report has no basis in reality."

    "You go and interview people on the beaches; they'll tell you the beaches are as good as they've been in memory," Bloomberg told reporters.

    Visits to Coney Island and South Beach by the Daily News found them relatively clean and filled with beachgoers.

    "The water is warm and clean," said Coney Island beachgoer Lucy Buzenskaya, 50, emerging from the waves. "They clean very often and I love it here!"

    But Jasmine Filomeno, 19, was not as thrilled. "It's filthy here," said Filomeno, digging up three pieces of glass from under her towel. "There's mad glass in this sand. You can cut yourself!"

    With Lisa L. Colangelo
    Originally published on August 9, 2004

    All contents © 2004 Daily News, L.P.

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    I think part of it (at least in comparison to other cities) is the fact that the volume of people in this city, walking around, creates a need for street trash bins to be emptied, at the very least, daily and often twice daily. That just doesn't happen. Certainly some BID areas are doing this, but the city as a whole does not.

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    The Lower East Side, East Village are probably the filthiest parts of Manhattan.

    Chinatown is the filthiest, smelliest neighborhood.

    The cleanest, Battery Park City.

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    August 11, 2004


    On City's Dirtiest Beach, Not So Much Filth


    A South Beach sign kept people away from a pier Tuesday, but the sand was accessible and enjoyable.

    HANGING over the city yesterday was a haze created by current weather patterns and continuing reports of imminent terrorist attack. Hazy, crazy, but hardly lazy; that is the summer of '04.

    A perfect day, then, to forget these worries and head for the beach. Not just any beach, but the dirtiest beach in all of New York City, at least in the estimation of the City Council: South Beach, on Staten Island.

    Beach towel, check. Suntan lotion, check. Hydrogen peroxide, check.

    The Council certainly captured the public's interest, on a Sunday free of terror chatter, by issuing a report called "Swimming in Trash?" The cover photographs, including those of what looked like a dead rat and a syringe, seemed to suggest that the answer was an emphatic yes, unless the photos were actually of poorly conceived beach toys.

    You pull into South Beach's parking lot, imagining how you will ease your terrorist-related concerns by strolling along the shoreline, collecting medical waste for a possible mobile. But two problems immediately arise:

    1. The Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, as likely a target as any structure in New York, looms to your left, and buzzing above is a helicopter, which brings to mind recent intelligence that terrorists might hijack a few. Truth is, no matter where you are, you find reminders of the troubled days in which you live.

    2. South Beach is fairly clean. No medical waste; no mobile.

    The relative tidiness of the beach prompted a rereading of the City Council report, whose intellectual rigor summoned memories of grade school reports on Earth Day field trips.

    On three days in July, between the hours of 11 a.m. and 4 p.m., investigators - interns, basically - walked the shorelines of the city's seven beaches, searching for what the report called "floatable debris and garbage wash-ups." They returned once more last week to collect some trophies to brandish at a news conference.

    According to a chart in the report, investigators found plastic bottles and food wrappers at all seven beaches (100 percent); straws or stirrers at six beaches (86 percent); cigarette butts at five beaches (71 percent); syringes at two beaches (29 percent); and condoms at one beach (14 percent).

    A note accompanying the chart added that a dead rodent was found at South Beach; a wig and a used sanitary napkin were found at Coney Island; and a potted plant container was found at Midland Beach, also on Staten Island.

    Beyond the veneer of gravitas provided by percentage figures and the solemn accounting of a discovered wig, the report raised more questions than it answers. It does not indicate whether one straw was found on each of six beaches, or whether the beaches were overrun with juice-box straws. It also included the incredible finding that two city beaches had no cigarette butts adorning their sands.

    By the way. A wig?

    Eric N. Gioia, chairman of the Council's Committee on Oversight and Investigations, defended the report as a "snapshot." He agreed that New York has pretty clean beaches; medical waste no longer clogs the shoreline, as it did in 1988. But he emphasized that the city should increase trash pickups and seek greater involvement from private entities.

    "After we released this report," he said, "every beach is cleaner this week than last week."

    Perhaps. By late yesterday morning, the sands at South Beach - "by far the worst beach surveyed," according to investigators - had been sifted relatively clean by a machine called the Beach King, and maintenance workers were picking up trash. But Thomas Paolo, the Parks Department's commissioner for Staten Island, said these are part of the daily drill.

    A parks employee for nearly a quarter-century, Mr. Paolo remembers the South Beach of the early 1990's: "A dump!" The beach was closed, he said, lifeguards were a memory, and vandals were blowing up cars beneath the boardwalk.

    NOW, the lifeguard chairs are full, the bathrooms are maintained and construction workers are building a boardwalk restaurant. As for the rat and the syringe, he said that storm drains overflow in heavy rains, and occasionally the debris of eight million winds up in the ocean, which gradually returns it to Gotham's sands.

    Sitting under a gazebo on the boardwalk, Mr. Paolo looked around and said that the South Beach of his childhood was back: a beach of lazy, hazy, crazy days.

    A walk along the seashore found no syringes for collection. Bottle caps, cigarette butts and the occasional can studded the sand, but the shells and stones of the sea outnumbered them by the thousands. Flashing blue and silver, peach and azure, they all but begged to be picked up and examined.

    For a little while, at least, they provided distraction from another hazy day.

    Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

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    Interstingly enough after having initially posted this thread, I have seen no improvement of the amount of litter on New York City streets. Does anyone think the city is any cleaner or is it about the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STT757
    The Lower East Side, East Village are probably the filthiest parts of Manhattan.

    Chinatown is the filthiest, smelliest neighborhood.

    The cleanest, Battery Park City.
    Chinatown is the nastiest place i have ever been. At some spots the smell of rotten fish was so bad i almost had to vomit.

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    That is the way of doing buisness down there, between the live, almost garage-like fishmarkets to the grocery stores piling all their refuse on the all-too-narrow sidewalks it is horrible.

    I think the only thing that would solve something like that would be to limit the streets there to only commercial traffic only at certain hours of the day.

    Let the store owners take over the entire sidewalk, if they want, so long as you still have a street to walk on.

    As for the mess in the streets? That will never change. There are too many people in NYC, and too many with a poor attitude about cleanliness (I have seen SO many people just drop whatever they had in hand instead of walking TWO STEPS away to the trash can.).

    Until the PEOPLE change, no amount of cleaning will KEEP NYC clean.

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    Lightbulb Whose job?

    I notice that NOT ONE of the postings suggests that any of the posters think it is their role to take part in helping keep the city clean.

    Pick up a piece of paper! The next time some mom tells her brat to toss the wrapper on the ground, ask her whether that's what she does at home.

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    Um, no.

    You are going to go around picking up a sopping wet piece of paper that has been lying in the grey-colored water on the side of the road? How about cigarette buts? How about the gum a kid just spit out?

    It is one thing to grab a newspaper and throw it in the trash, it is another to take someone's garbage from KFC and try to position it on top of a heaping trash can that someone used to dispose of their houshold garbage because they did not want to wait until trash day....

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