Reply With Quotei haven't been there yet,is that hardson river?in the movie <national treasure> it's dark and dirty,is that right?i live by Yangtze river in china,the water it's terrible,mn.
NYC,a big big city,i'll be there.
i haven't been there yet,is that hardson river?in the movie <national treasure> it's dark and dirty,is that right?i live by Yangtze river in china,the water it's terrible,mn.
NYC,a big big city,i'll be there.
The HUDSON River, which can be both dark and dirty, but is much cleaner than it was 20+ years ago.
Not many boats on the Hudson ...
Do you have lots of boats on the Yangtze River near where you live?
sorry for my bad spelling,i'm a guide i always talk not good at writing.Originally Posted by lofter1
we have lots of boats on Yangtze river,mostly are tour cruises,u might heard about Viking or Victoria,they have a lot boats there.
my city,chungking,which is also a BIG BIG city,32'000'000 ppl live there.yes,your eyes are ok,that's 32'000'000.the city's been poluted terriblly cause there are too many cars and too much industry there.well,i guess like NYC,it's now getting better.
we like spicy,i bet u won't like it.
I like spicy food -- in NYC it seems that Sezchaun or Hunan is the spiciest Chinese food.
Wow, 32,000,000 in one city! That's almost how many people are in the whole state of California -- and 2x as many in the whole state of New York.
Do you get along with all of your neighbors?
i live in outskirt of the city.and our spicy is not the type u guys are use to,stronger than Mexcan.
but u guys might not know in Guangzhou,another big city in southern china near by Hongkong,there's also a Liberty statue standing in a park there.it's just the same as the one in NYC but maybe 10X smaller.that's a memorial thing for Dr,Sun Yetsan's early revelution in 1900's.
this statue was sent from U.S.in 1920's by KuoMintung (the Nationalist Party of China) U.S.sub orginization.she's also holding a book in her left hand,that's the first constitution of China,right hand is a torch symbolizes "liberty enlightening the people".
i can't upload large images,here are some attachments pix of that one in china.the glasses man in #3 pic is the current chairman of Kuomintung in Taiwan. that was the first official visit to mainland china after 1949.
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Another version of China's Statue of Liberty ...
Statue of Liberty's Crown May Reopen to Public
Statue of Liberty's crown may reopen to public
By COLLEEN LONG, Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK, July 4, 2008 - The National Park Service is considering reopening Lady Liberty's crown for the first time since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to documents a congressman released on July Fourth.
The park service requested bids last month to study what it would take to safely open the
Statue of Liberty's iconic headpiece to the public, according to documents released by U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y.
Liberty Island was closed after the terrorist attacks. The statue's base, pedestal and lower observation deck reopened in August 2004, after a $20 million effort to enhance fire safety.
But the crown and its interior observation deck, which soar about 265 feet above New York Harbor, remained closed because the Park Service said there was no way to evacuate them safely in an emergency. The narrow spiral staircase that leads up to the crown doesn't comply with fire and building codes.
Visitors are now limited to the statue's 154-foot-tall pedestal.
Weiner, a member of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security, helped arrange a congressional hearing in September on reopening the crown.
He said keeping the observation deck shuttered hurts the city's economy: Since the crown closed, the number of visitors to Lady Liberty has dropped 44 percent, from 3.6 million in 2000 to 2.5 million in 2006.
"The bureaucracy which had stubbornly refused to open the crown is finally moved in the right direction," Weiner said Friday. "Today's news means that America is one step closer to providing what everyone wants: safe access to the heights of Lady Liberty."
The Park Service said in a statement Friday that several architectural and engineering firms have assessed visitor access since the attacks, and that all concluded the area from the pedestal to the crown doesn't meet safety codes.
The newest Park Service survey, sent to nearly 800 security firms, asks them to prepare plans that address whether the statue can be updated to meet fire safety codes, and, if not, how the service can minimize safety risks there.
The deadline for submitting proposals is Wednesday, and the plans would be finalized by January 2009, Weiner said. The House recently agreed to provide $1 million to help fund the work; it wasn't immediately clear Friday whether the Senate would do the same.
The Park Service said the staircase to the observation deck was installed for maintenance workers, not for sightseers. When it was open, rangers responded to emergencies almost daily, especially in summer heat.
Sightseers suffered heat exhaustion, shortness of breath, panic attacks, claustrophobia and fear of heights, the service said.
"The statue's designer, Frederic Auguste Bartholdi, never intended visitors to ascend to the crown," spokesman Darren Boch said.
The crown is the only National Park Service site that hasn't reopened since the 2001 attacks. The Park Service oversees such sites as the Washington Monument and Mount Rushmore.
A gift from France to the United States, the Statue of Liberty was dedicated in 1886.
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There's no way to make the Statue safe in a fire, just as there's no way to make skiing safe, or climbing Mount Everest --or driving, for that matter. If warned, a mature adult can decide whether the risk is worth it to him.
Yeah, to me, it was stupid to go visit it if no one was allowed access to the crown or the torch!
We're slowly getting stuff back since the officials began living in fear of terrorists!!
I don't suppose you happened to see how narrow, small and steep those stairs were?Yeah, to me, it was stupid to go visit it if no one was allowed access to the crown or the torch!
We're slowly getting stuff back since the officials began living in fear of terrorists!!
That such stairs wouldn't have a prayer of evacuating everyone effectively in the case of a disaster of any sort?
Or that your as good as dead if you have a personal medical emergency because EMT couldn't get up there timely?
Actually, how about the fact those stairs weren't supposed to be used by thousands of people (many of whom like to deface the skin and armatures) a day?
This has nothing, or at least a lot less than you suggest, with terrorism.
maybe but.....if not, why did they allow it to go on for years and years, andThis has nothing, or at least a lot less than you suggest, with terrorism.
not close it down till the attacks?
Access was beginning to be limited in 1998. The crown would be closed by now, 9/11 or no.
That contemplated closure of Liberty's crown (during the Giuliani era) was also terrorist-related, as under the rule of RG (pre-9/11) all sorts of controls on city life began to appear.
Witness the fencing & gating of City Hall Park and the security perimeter put into effect around the steps of City hall -- where citizens used to have free and unfettered access to the halls of power, but under Giuliani were compelled to offer a "reason" for getting close to City Hall (aside from being an interested and concerned citizen).
Witness also the Giuliani security bunker which was built inside the former 7 WTC -- whose collapse on 9/11 was precipitated by the explosion of massive fuel tanks which were constructed within the building to serve the Giuliani bunker.
Are you suggesting that there should be nowhere on earth that is inaccessible to very large people and EMTs??
That public monuments should only be accessible to a priviledged few??
That, following the Spet. 11 atrocities, some people dind't go into paranoid overdrive and/or use it as an excuse to go "lock-down" on all our collective asses??
Really??
Mount Everest should be closed to climbers because it's dangerous. Ski resorts should be shut down till they can figure out how to make skiing safe. And Interstate highways ...
Nannies.
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