View Poll Results: What proposal would you like to see built for Hudson Yards?

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  • Brookfield: SOM, Field Operations, Thomas Phifer, SHoP Architects and Diller Scofidio & Renfro

    64 65.98%
  • Durst / Vornado / Conde Nast: FXFowle and Rafael Pelli

    11 11.34%
  • Extell: Steven Holl

    8 8.25%
  • Related / Goldman Sachs / NewsCorp: Kohn Pedersen Fox, Arquitectonica and Robert AM Stern

    8 8.25%
  • Tishman Speyer / Morgan Stanley: Helmut Jahn

    6 6.19%
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    I like the oval-shaped residential tower.

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    In the brochure that one is described as a hotel. But the buildings / phasing shown in the build-out plan doesn't comply with that.

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    Did anyone see the video of CNBC's interview with Ross re: the Yards? It was posted on Curbed and/or The Real Deal today.

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    Vid is found at Real Deal ...

    Hudson Yards under discussion for 18 million square feet of leases

    Related Companies CEO Stephen Ross made an appearance on CNBC this morning to talk about his upcoming Hudson Yards project. "You know this is where the next great place in New York is going to be," he said, referencing the developments in subway coverage and the extension of the High Line park. He says he follows the money when it comes to development, watching where the city and state are investing. Ross said he was confident about attracting tenants for the first phase of the development, which will include four million square feet of office space. "I think we're going to surprise people," he said. "We're talking to nine tenants at two million square feet each." As reported last month, Related is pitching Time Warner on a lease, hoping to draw them away from their Columbus Circle headquarters less than 10 years after the company first moved in.

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    Nice try but the whole entire Hudson Yards (East and West combined) has only about 12 msf, half of which is suppose to be residential.

    The Read Deal is clueless, like most of the rest of the media.

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    Big Hudson Yards lease (nearly) in (Coach) bag
    Related Cos. seen as close to landing its first anchor office tenant for its sprawling West Side commercial and residential development; could clear way for construction to begin.
    By Daniel Massey and Amanda Fung
    July 20, 2011 1:30 p.m.

    Coach is considering relocating its headquarters to Hudson Yards.

    Updated: July 20, 2011 5:39 p.m.

    The Related Cos. is very close to signing on the anchor office tenant it needs to begin construction of its sprawling Hudson Yards project over the rail yards west of Penn Station, sources said.

    Coach, the Manhattan-based high-end luxury handbag and accessories maker, could sign a term sheet to commit itself to roughly 600,000 square feet of office space at the new development as soon as next month, sources said.

    Negotiations between Related and Coach have been ongoing since late last year, and details of the deal could not yet be determined. But if finalized, Related would finally be able to secure the financing needed to begin construction on the 26-acre site bounded between Tenth and Twelfth avenues and running from West 30th Street to West 33rd Street. Related signed a contract with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to develop Hudson Yards in spring 2010, but the developer still has to reach a number of economic benchmarks before it can close and sign the 99-year ground lease and begin construction.

    A spokeswoman for Related said the firm is talking to more than a dozen potential tenants, but declined to comment on any specific tenants or discussions.

    A Coach spokeswoman declined to comment on speculation. Coach's broker, Mary Ann Tighe, chief executive of the New York tri-state region of CB Richard Ellis Inc., declined to comment.

    Earlier this year, Related told Crain's that in order to land an anchor tenant, it is offering to build the tenant a state-of-the-art building and to either sell it to the tenant at cost or charge just enough rent, estimated at roughly $70 per square foot, to cover construction costs. The master plan for the entire $15-billion, 12-million-square-foot project includes three office buildings; nine residential towers with 5,000 units; a 750,000-square-foot, glass-encased mall; a school; a cultural center; and 12-acres of open space. The project will take as long as 15 years to complete. The developer has said the project's first office tower could open as early as 2015.

    While the Hudson Yards area remains raw, the opening of the second stretch of the High Line, which now runs all the way up to West 30th Street, makes the site attractive for prospective tenants like Coach. The company is currently based in the garment district at 516 W. 34th St., a property the firm owns. The No. 7 subway extension to West 34th Street and Eleventh Avenue, expected to open at the end of 2013, is also expected to help draw interest.

    Last year, Related partnered with Oxford Properties, a unit of a huge Canadian pension fund, to help finance and market the project. Its former financial partner was Goldman Sachs.

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    I'm not a fan of any of the designs.

    Why couldn't we have a team of Foster, Rogers, Gehry, and Calatrava?

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    This area is going bananas. Tons of residential and retail/entertainment/community projects ongoing, and steady migration of commercial tenants moving into the converted industrial spaces tracking the 11th Ave corridor running north from the mid-20s. This space and the Financial District seem to be the most rapidly transforming parts of Manhattan over the next 10 years.

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    I still can't get over how awful the design is of the signature office towers. They look like bloated One Penn Plazas with tumors. So gross -- even their height can't compensate for their ugly retro design.

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    Anybody get Architectural Record, particularly the latest one on NYC? There is a big rendering in an ad near the back of the issue of what looks to be Hudson Yards, but it has two very large towers that rise at a slanted angle. Anyone know what this is?

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    Isn't that the separate Manhattan West thing?

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...h5ds5.jpg/sr=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoldanTTLB View Post
    Isn't that the separate Manhattan West thing?

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...h5ds5.jpg/sr=1
    I thought that at first also but it wasn't Manhattan West (unless it's a new design/rendering). We need someone who has the issue handy (it was an ad for a developer possibly... I've already tried the Arch. Rec. website).

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    Seems that's the Hudson Yards proposal from Brookfield / SOM, moved east to Ninth Avenue opposite the Farley Post Office.



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    Indeed, from Curbed last April:

    Hudson Yards Competitor Plans to Break Ground This Year

    Because one Far West Side office complex built on a platform over some train tracks is never enough, developer Brookfield Properties is getting serious about bringing back Manhattan West. Originally envisioned as two glassy skyscrapers that look ready to belly bop, Manhattan West—between 31st and 33rd Streets and Ninth and Dyer Avenues—was overshadowed by Hudson Yards next door and then derailed by the credit crunch. Brookfield told the WSJ that the company is moving forward with the project, and now the Times has more details:

    The developer spent the last several years studying the engineering of a deck over the rail yards on the site, and says it has found a way to build it cheaper and quicker. It will start construction later this year, with plans to deliver a two-million-square-foot office tower designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill on the northeast corner of the parcel by 2015. There are plans to eventually construct as many as three towers.


    Might we see construction kicking off on two huge commercial real estate projects in the same neighborhood with zero tenants lined up? It's a good time to be in the market for a million square feet! Maybe Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce is ready to expand?

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    Might as well attach the new Brookfield image here, for posterity ...

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