View Poll Results: What proposal would you like to see built for Hudson Yards?

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  • Brookfield: SOM, Field Operations, Thomas Phifer, SHoP Architects and Diller Scofidio & Renfro

    64 65.98%
  • Durst / Vornado / Conde Nast: FXFowle and Rafael Pelli

    11 11.34%
  • Extell: Steven Holl

    8 8.25%
  • Related / Goldman Sachs / NewsCorp: Kohn Pedersen Fox, Arquitectonica and Robert AM Stern

    8 8.25%
  • Tishman Speyer / Morgan Stanley: Helmut Jahn

    6 6.19%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    Wow some of you guys find the negative in everything. The rendering was probably commissioned by Kpf, therefore any building besides theirs is not rendered in detail. It looks like a rough Robert AM Stern design.
    The problem with the resid. plan on the south side of 30th is that it doesn't even try to relate to the big swooping curve of the High Line there. How many opportunities are there like that? The ball was totally dropped and instead of something that plays to the space we get two interlocked boxes.

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    I agree that something nicer could have been designed for the site adjacent to the Yards. However, I will happily accept it considering that Related hit a grandslam, series-winning home run with the Yards. I was resigned to the prospect of the ridiculous tumoured boxes rising here, and instead, something great will be built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    This tower is really nice. Where is it located?
    That's the Clarendon in Boston's Back Bay. The building in the right foreground is the John Hancock Tower.

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    The renderings are pretty nice. The twin towers are reminiscent of Eighth Avenue Place in Calgary, maybe after being dosed with Element X.

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    Ugh. The renderings look nice, but the new site plan? Barf. Haven't we learned anything about urban design in the past 20 years? How could Hunters Point South go so right with site planning (and bland with design), and this go so wrong (but exciting with design)? Half the problems with the yard in the first place is that it is a super-block. How is it that the best we can come up with is to replace them with a new super-block? Sigh.

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    HY is a super block by necessity, as it's to be built on a massive platform covering over the rail yards. The interior of the ~ 16 acre site has cross streets that create a grid of sorts.

    Curbed posted today 7 renderings from KPF:

    New KPF Renderings Forecast Coach's Hudson Yards Home

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    You can see how the tower designs have been refined. The first is older, notice the tops. Coach's tower got a little shorter and the north one got a bit taller.










    Last edited by Derek2k3; November 2nd, 2011 at 12:52 PM.

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    This completely changes the skyline when viewing from the southwest, I like it

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    Good catch Derek with the slant of the top being reversed in direction.

    The Coach (south) tower looks like it was shortened however I don't think the north tower got any taller though.

    Anyway, if these were stand alone towers, it would be okay but for some reason, they don't seem to work as a pair.

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    More images from KPF:

    From NJ to the West:

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    From West Midtown to the SW:

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    Coach tower, south face from below:

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    Looking to the south from up above inside:

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    Squeeze the two together and add a spire would = BOA.

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    Well, the twins have returned to NYC. Just not at the World Trade Center site. It's even a superblock!

    These will definitely be some landmark buildings.

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    They're getting rid of the towers further to the west?

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    The new site plan (http://www.observer.com/2011/11/coac...s-pics/#slide3) is essentially the same as the one released back in April:

    http://www.related.com/destinations/...s Brochure.pdf

    The main difference is that one commercial tower--on 10th Avenue between 31st and 32nd--is now gone, and its mass (at least at ground level) has been redistributed to the lone office tower on the Western Yards. Does anyone have more details?

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ_tim View Post
    That's the Clarendon in Boston's Back Bay. The building in the right foreground is the John Hancock Tower.
    Thanks. It's quite nice.

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