View Poll Results: What proposal would you like to see built for Hudson Yards?

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  • Brookfield: SOM, Field Operations, Thomas Phifer, SHoP Architects and Diller Scofidio & Renfro

    64 65.98%
  • Durst / Vornado / Conde Nast: FXFowle and Rafael Pelli

    11 11.34%
  • Extell: Steven Holl

    8 8.25%
  • Related / Goldman Sachs / NewsCorp: Kohn Pedersen Fox, Arquitectonica and Robert AM Stern

    8 8.25%
  • Tishman Speyer / Morgan Stanley: Helmut Jahn

    6 6.19%
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    Given its size any idea what the cladding will be like?

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    most likely exactly like the previous two,
    Grey brick and vents.

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    Oh Boy. Thanks.

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    Some other good photos here care of the MTA. Looks like this entrance will be hell on earth while the neighborhood around it is constructed. The 10th ave station still would have been infinitely more useful in the long run.

    http://www.mta.info/capconstr/7ext/construction2.htm

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    Hudson Yards Gets Financing, Related Eyes MTA Deal Changes

    by Jessica Dailey

    Next month will begin a new era of construction in Manhattan. Related Companies plans to break ground on the first tower of Hudson Yards, having secured a group of financial backers. The Journal reports that Bank of America "tentatively committed" to financing a $400 million loan for the 46-story building, and "a Middle East wealth fund" is also investing with Related. The loan is just a drop in the bucket for the $6 billion first phase, but Related's talks with partners are "far enough advanced," and should be finalized by year's end, that the developer feels comfortable starting construction. This may be a clear sign that the U.S. commercial development market is coming back to life, as Hudson Yards is the largest privately funded office project in the nation since the 2008 downturn.

    In other Hudson Yards news, the Post reports that MTA Chairman Joseph Lhota says that Related is trying to change the terms of its deal with the MTA. Lhota would not specify, and a rep for Related denied the claims. The existing deal for a 99-year lease hasn't yet been finalized, and Related can't actually begin construction until it's signed. Given Related's confidence in starting construction next month, the developer must be pretty sure that the deal will be finalized soon.

    The second and third phases of Hudson Yards are likely to see more complications. Each requires building a $800 million platform over the railyards, and construction costs could easily grow or the project could be set back by the economy. Plus, Related needs to secure a large tenant before embarking on the second phase. Last year, it was annouced that Coach will be taking 750,000-square-feet in the first 1.7 million square foot tower.

    Manhattan Megaproject Set to Rise [WSJ]
    MTA: Related Eyes Hudson Deal Tweak [NYP]

    http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/1...al_changes.php

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    Hudson Yards Will Be Taller Than the Empire State Building, Including a Higher Observation Deck

    By Matt Chaban


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    Earlier this week, the Related Companies announced it had found backers to begin building the first tower of its Hudson Yards project (at the same time that it is trying to get a break from the MTA for payments on the entire 16-acre complex). Should the project get off the ground, it will have a long way to go.

    Sure, in terms of time, as it will takes years, if not decades, for the entire 12 million square feet of office, residential, retail and cultural space to be built. But there is also a long way to go in terms of distance. As the design team puts the finishing touches on the first phase of the project, it turns out the other office tower on the site, which has yet to find an anchor tenant or an announced start date, will become the second or third tallest building in the city when it is completed, surpassing the Empire State Building.

    At 1,300 feet, the tallest of the Hudson Yards towers (designed by KPF) will fall just short of 1 World Trade Center (sans antenna, er, spire) and the even taller 432 Park, CIM and Harry Macklowe’s new luxury tower at the corner of 57th Street and Park Avenue, which reaches a spindly 1,397 feet into the skyline.

    But this is not the only place where Hudson Yards will surpass the Empire State Building. It will also boast both a observation areas closer to heaven than at the Empire State Building, both indoors and out.

    Perhaps you noticed an unusual shard jutting out from the side of the tallest tower in the latest set of renderings, first revealed a few weeks ago in New York magazine? That is an open-air observation deck located at 1,100 feet. That puts it 50 feet above the Empire State Building’s famous outdoor terrace, that iconic movie set and marriage proposal destination.

    And above Hudson Yard’s outdoor observation space will be a veritable playland of attractions reaching to the top of the tower, and by extension beyond the Empire State Building’s topmost observation room, at 1,250 feet, the place where zeppelins were once meant to dock.

    “It’s more akin to the Rainbow Room to be honest,” Related spokeswoman Joanna Rose explained. “We have a ballroom, restaurant and bars above the observation deck that offer panoramic views. And yes, we are looking at locating some of those above the 1250 mark.”

    They are just going after all the landmarks—not just the Empire State Building but Rockefeller Center, too. And it will be hard to compete, since as previously reported, that master of hospitality Danny Meyer will be running the show way up in the clouds.

    http://observer.com/2012/10/hudson-y...ervation-deck/

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    Awkward.

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    Tremendous I would like to see that observation deck encircle the entire building.

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    looks like a poorly worked out afterthought.

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    The space above the observation deck clearly draws a modern interpretation of classics like the soaring glass conference rooms at the top of 1 Wall St, 20 Exchange Place, and more recently One Chase Manhattan Plaza.

    The deck itself is a nod to the diving boards that might have been at an olympic aquatics center here. I'm not sure I'm enamored with that, though.

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    This will certainly block views of the ESB from the NJ Tpk. I love it though and think it is an exciting development for NY. Given the height and density, as well as the building placements this reminds me of the WTC master plan, but better and more inviting. Mid-21st Century Manhattan will not disappoint.

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    Still, on the island, it's more than two blocks away so it doesn't impede on the ESB as much as everyone says the 15 Penn plan does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BStyles View Post
    it doesn't impede on the ESB as much as everyone says the 15 Penn plan does.
    Speaking of, is that still happening?

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    Hudson's New Front Yards

    Nelson Byrd Woltz creating public spaces for Manhattan megadevelopment.

    by Alan G. Brake


    Courtesy Nelson Byrd Woltz

    The dusty rail yards and blocks of barren concrete on Manhattan’s far west side are beginning to be transformed into the office, retail, residential, and cultural mega-development called Hudson Yards. At its center will be a new civic square designed by Nelson Byrd Woltz Landscape Architects (NBWLA). The firm is also designing the six acres of streetscapes for the project.

    Hudson Yards will connect with three other significant landscapes: The High Line at the south, Hudson River Park to the west, and new Hudson Boulevard, which is being designed by Michael Van Valkenburgh, to the north. For NBWLA principal Thomas Woltz, the meandering nature of the High Line and Hudson Boulevard and the linearity of the Hudson River Park called for a large-scale gathering place within Hudson Yards, which would become a destination and defining feature for this tabula rasa neighborhood. “One of the goals is to connect to these landscapes fluidly but distinctly,” Woltz said. “The urban plaza should be a kind of sitting room for the entire west side. It should be a place for spectacle, large groups, small groups, and individuals.”



    Though the design is still evolving, Woltz and the developers, Related and Oxford Properties Group, are planning a six-acre plaza ringed with trees, a water feature, and a large central artwork. Woltz intends to use innovative horticulture as a major formal feature of the plaza, including large stands of clipped native trees, and seasonally timed plantings to draw visitors and New Yorkers. “That could be a massive bulb display for Fashion Week,” Woltz said. “We want the horticulture to be something people come to see throughout the year.”

    For the landscape architects, creating intimate spaces under the canopies will also give the space a human scale, something they feel is crucial given the great height of the adjacent skyscrapers. “It will create a soft ceiling,” Woltz said. Café chairs and tables on crushed stone will populate the ground beneath the monolithic tree canopies. The plaza will be a privately owned public space, so it should be highly maintained. “Related has made a commitment to create a great public space for New York over the long term. Too often maintenance is overlooked,” he said.

    For the streetscapes, Woltz is looking at European models where sidewalks flow seamlessly into streets without curbs and bollards to protect pedestrians.

    Though NBWLA has a national reputation built on dozens of award winning projects, Hudson Yards is by far the firm’s most prominent commission in New York to date. For Woltz, working on a landscape of this scale and civic impact is nothing less than “career-defining,” he said.

    “The open spaces in Hudson Yards are our greatest honor and obligation to the city. This will be our legacy for all New Yorkers to enjoy,” wrote Jay Cross, president of Related Hudson Yards, in an email. As with LA’s new Grand Park, which Related helped develop and will maintain as a part of their massive Grand Avenue Project, the developers see high quality public space as a major amenity for real estate development.

    http://www.archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6334

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    Very nice. Again though, I can't help thinking this is the WTC without the need for the memorial, museum, and security.

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