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  1. #16
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    Default MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT coming for Coney Island

    CI development + Olympics + Nets/Devils not selling out in jersey = CI Sportsplx and a BIG boost for CI and NYC. *I can't wait.

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    Default MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT coming for Coney Island

    I was particularly interested in this:

    "City Councilman Lew Fidler, leader of the council’s Brooklyn delegation, said the idea that garbage only need to be picked up one day a week or that Brooklyn’s three East River Bridges could be tolled was lunacy.

    "Fidler said, of all the advances that have been accomplished in economic development, he is particularly proud that the first Caribbean Trade Center in the United States will be opening in downtown Brooklyn.

    "The center will promote and sustain trade and investment between New York, the United States, the Caribbean and the international community."

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    New York Daily News -

    Mike: Make Coney a thriller all year

    Friday, September 26th, 2003

    A plastic bubble over the Wonder Wheel? Heated cars on the Cyclone? A retractable dome for KeySpan Park?

    Mayor Bloomberg wants to make Coney Island a year-round attraction - so yesterday, he announced the creation of a 13-member board that will spearhead comprehensive plan and draft an economic development strategy.

    "Coney Island's economy really has to be a year-round one to be sustainable," he said as he stood on the famed Boardwalk. "It can't be just tied to the baseball season or to warm weather."

    The new Coney Island Development Corp. includes city officials, Brooklyn business and community leaders and real estate executives.

    Borough President Marty Markowitz said he envisions a seaside amphitheater for concerts; a world-class paddleball, volleyball and handball complex, and a water adventure park with heated water for the colder months. He also suggested a ferry to transport people from midtown Manhattan to Coney Island.

    "Imagine a Boardwalk lined with even more restaurants, clubs and cafes with music, great food and dancing," Markowitz said. "Imagine that it's Saturday night and the only place everyone wants to be is in Coney Island."

    An estimated 5.1 million people visit Coney Island by public transportation each year, mostly in the summer. But the rains kept the crowds away this year.

    Bloomberg said he hopes the new board is the first step in a widespread revitalization.

    "Coney Island holds a special place in New York's identity and history," he said.

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    A plastic bubble over the Wonder Wheel? Heated cars on the Cyclone? A retractable dome for KeySpan Park?

    Mayor Bloomberg wants to make Coney Island a year-round attraction - so yesterday, he announced the creation of a 13-member board that will spearhead comprehensive plan and draft an economic development strategy.

    "Coney Island's economy really has to be a year-round one to be sustainable," he said as he stood on the famed Boardwalk. "It can't be just tied to the baseball season or to warm weather."
    Sounds great, but seems aggressive given NYC's current fiscal problems.

    Adding a year round amusement park on Coney Island, and casinos in Rockaway, NYC would really become a great one-stop place for tourism. It'll never match Orlando/Disney for amusement parks, and it'll never match Las Vegas for casinos. But it would probably make NYC one of the few cities in the world with everything in one city.. top tier restaurants, shopping, museums, performing arts, nightlife & clubs, a few beaches.. and add year round amusement park and casinos.

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    You have to think several years ahead, dude. New York will be a better place when this fiscal crisis is completely over.

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    Thank you! Major, year-round amusements and casinos (in Rockaway) would make NYC THE place to visit... bar none, for almost everything. Think about the revenues, jobs, etc. that would come as well.

    Hey, NYC could at least trump AC for #2!

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    Gambling In Gotham? Bloomberg In Favor Of Casinos In City

    SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2003

    Are New Yorkers ready for Blackjack in Brooklyn or Craps in Queens?

    On his weekly radio show Saturday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he is in favor of casinos in the city. In response to a caller's question, the mayor said gambling should be legalized throughout the state.

    “The state Legislature has not been willing to allow gambling in any place other than on Indian reservations,” Bloomberg said. “That has always quite honestly annoyed me. I don't understand why, if we're going to have gambling, it should be where it helps everybody and not just some small communities.”

    The plan faces serious hurdles though. The mayor said he has concerns a casino would take money from the people who could least afford it.

    State legislators haven't indicated whether or not they would support the idea.

    Copyright © 2003 NY1 News

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    Wouldn't that be amazing...

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    You guys probably know about this stuff a lot more than I do. How long does it usually take between an LDC being announced and actual development being done? Just wondering how long its going to take to get Coney rockin again.

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    Proposals sought for Coney Island plan

    The city’s Economic Development Corp. has issued a request for proposals to complete a strategic development plan for Coney Island.

    The EDC is seeking a consultant, or a team of consultants, to come up with a plan to strengthen the existing commercial base, market the area for year-round use and develop vacant property for a variety of uses, including housing.

    Joshua Sirefman, chief operating officer of the EDC, says that Mayor Bloomberg is committed to re-establishing Coney Island as a recreational and tourist destination. Proposals are due on Jan. 29.

    Copyright 2004, Crain Communications, Inc

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    Next stop: Coney

    City picks developer


    By Jotham Sederstrom
    The Brooklyn Papers

    Lately it's as if Brooklyn
    is the "straight guy" to
    the city and state's "queer

    Skyscrapers are planned for downtown. A
    basketball arena may soon host the Nets in
    Prospect Heights. And the city this week took a
    major step in restoring Coney Island to its former
    seaside glory.
    Davis Brody & Bond, a Manhattan-based architectural
    firm responsible for sweeping expansion
    plans in Bedford-Stuyvesant and at Polytechnic
    University, was tapped Tuesday to
    submit a large-scale plan to redevelop the home
    of the world famous Cyclone roller-coaster, the
    Brooklyn Cyclones minor league baseball team,
    and the recently renovated Parachute Jump.
    The design team also includes the accounting
    firm of Ernst & Young.
    The recommendation by the Coney Island
    Development Corporation capped a breezy selection
    process in which 21 prospective design
    teams were whittled to one in less than a month.
    The selection now moves to the Economic Development
    Corporation, which will negotiate a
    contractual agreement with the design team, according
    to a spokeswoman for the EDC, who
    said a master plan could be ready by August.
    When completed, the plan will extend to the
    area —bounded by Neptune Avenue to the
    north, the Atlantic Ocean to the south, Ocean
    Parkway to the east, and West 37th Street — the
    redevelopment bug that's already infected much
    of northern Brooklyn since last year.
    The EDC created the 13-member Coney Island
    Development Corporation last September
    to shepherd a financial plan and design.
    "It definitely has to be a public-private endeavor,"
    said EDC spokeswoman Janel Patterson,
    who said the initial 100-page proposals submitted
    by each group didn't outline specific plans.
    "The plan will build on existing business space
    and look to develop private property. The city, of
    course, can't pay for the whole thing, that's the reason
    for putting together the whole plan."
    It would also be a continuation of new construction
    that already includes the $39 million,

    publicly financed Keyspan Park, where the
    Brooklyn Cyclones play, and the soon-to-be
    completed, $240 million Stillwell Avenue train
    station, the major subway link from Coney Island
    to the rest of the city.
    Community Board 13 District Manager
    Chuck Reichenthal, a member of the group,
    said that nearly all of the 21 proposals included
    mention of a boardwalk-side ferry service, likely
    at the old Iron Pier behind Keyspan Park
    near Stillwell Avenue.
    "The dream is thus, to perhaps develop a
    ferry plan from Lower Manhattan to Coney Island,"
    said Reichenthal. "To me, it's an interesting
    concept because very often you have to
    take a boat to just about every world-class city.
    Think about Venice."
    But Brooklyn's "Venice" has 27-story public
    housing buildings and more than 27 acres
    of vacant property.
    Drawing from an existing plan by the
    Coney Island-based Astella Development Corporation,
    which focuses primarily on entertainment,
    Davis Brody & Bond is expected to reveal
    a master plan that would swing widely
    from residential and commercial development
    to amusement and transportation.
    Despite Borough President Marty
    Markowitz's public enthusiasm over a possible
    resurrection of the Parachute Jump as an
    amusement park ride, no specifics have surfaced
    as to how that 262-foot structure would
    be used in the plan. Standing dormant since
    1968, Markowitz sparked a $5 million restoration
    project for the city landmark, still Coney
    Island's tallest structure.
    "My dream is to get that Parachute Jump up
    and working again," Markowitz said at a press
    luncheon at Borough Hall on Wednesday.
    Sadly, for many years Coney Island had deteriorated,
    but what's happening now gives
    every indication that it's coming back."
    See CONEY on page 4

    continued from page 1

    Davis Brody & Young is
    the architectural firm behind
    both the glass-sheathed addition
    two years ago to the
    110-year-old Harvard Club,
    on West 44th Street at Fifth
    Avenue in Manhattan, and
    Medgar Evers College High
    School in Crown Heights.
    Their vision for Polytechnic
    University included the addition
    of 20- and eight-story
    buildings in Downtown
    Brooklyn, one a residential
    hall and the other an administrative
    building housing a
    multipurpose gym.
    Max Bond, a lead architect
    on the plans, referred press inquiries
    to Charles Shorter, an
    advisor with Ernst & Young.
    At press time, Shorter had not
    returned calls seeking comment.
    "We were looking for the
    best balance between two
    kinds of fundamental qualities,"
    said Kenneth Adams,
    president of the Brooklyn
    Chamber of Commerce and a
    member of the Coney Island
    Development Corporation.
    We were looking for a real-

    ly strong economic and real
    estate plan. But we also
    wanted a group that could
    bring a world-class, imaginative
    design to Coney Island."
    Over the next several
    months, said Patterson, the 13-
    member CIDC will begin
    holding public meetings, mostly

    in and around Coney Island,
    to give residents and business
    people a chance to weigh in.
    Among the criteria included
    in the request for proposals
    issued in January was that
    the plan spur job growth and
    turn the summer destination
    into a year-round attraction.

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    March 7, 2004


    A Bedraggled Flea Market Makes Way for Progress


    The trouble all started with Shorty's toilet.

    Shorty - his nickname, and the only name by which he is willing to be identified - used to own the largest remaining and least respectable flea market on Surf Avenue, the decaying amusement strip that parallels the Coney Island shoreline.

    That market, at Surf Avenue and Eighth Street, has always stood out, even in a neighborhood rich in makeshift architecture. It is a labyrinth of shipping containers, stacked two deep, and rented out to individual tenants. Some of the containers are single-length, and some double; still others, like mine shafts, bend abruptly at right angles and snake into the unlit space in the back of the building. A soft tin roof gives the whole thing a rough cohesion.

    On some days, most of the containers have their rolling steel gates half-closed, like heavy-lidded eyes; on others, startlingly, one or two disgorge their contents all over the sidewalk: broken dolls, lamps, pots and pans. Shorty has his own container on the end, with, in token of his status, the only bathroom.

    Then, in September, Shorty sold the property. According to the flea market's dozen or so tenants, the buyer, New York-based Seasurf Realty, promptly padlocked Shorty's toilet, shut off the flea market's electricity and served the vendors with eviction notices. The whole thing is now in Brooklyn Civil Court, but Michael Cheatham, the tenants' lawyer, says the best he can do is postpone eviction for a few months.

    Even so, Shorty still hangs around the flea market, is friendly with the vendors and seems unrepentant about having sealed their fate. "You can't sell this stuff no more," he said recently, sweeping an arm at the line of containers and the sidewalk trash. "Look at them. This nice area. This touristy. Look at this."

    With this, the flea market at 825 Surf Avenue becomes another casualty of Coney Island improvement. The neighborhood finds itself in the middle of one last push for greatness, a surge of political and corporate energy that began in 2000 with the construction of KeySpan Park for the minor-league Brooklyn Cyclones. The movement has gathered force with the rebuilding of the Stillwell Avenue subway station and Key- Span's reclaiming of the gas-soaked brownfields along Coney Island Creek.

    Property values are rising; city inspectors are showing up in numbers unseen for decades; something is in the air. "The rehabilitation of the entire amusement district is something that everyone is working for and planning towards," said Chuck Reichenthal, district manager of Community Board 13. "If you've been here a long time, great. But now you've got to go by the book."

    Back on Surf Avenue and Eighth, a man named David, who describes himself as a collector, leaned against a car and explained the process by which goods reach vendors. "The homeless find the stuff," he said. "People die, people give it away."

    At that moment, one of the homeless scavengers who regularly stop by the market had just dragged in a shopping cart. He was a tall, jumpy guy with a couple of nail clippers on a chain around his neck. Vendors mobbed the cart with the urgency of carrion birds, carrying away a computer monitor, four shoes, some boxes of L'eggs pantyhose and several cans of Slim-Fast.

    David eyed the cart. "Everybody benefits," he said. "The homeless pick it up, we buy it, they make a little money. It's recycling, like life and death."

    Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

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    New York Daily News

    March 10, 2004

    Year-round Coney plan

    2 firms tapped to aid strategic development


    Even in its most dire days, Coney Island held its place as a summertime destination. Now that the community has a new minor league ballpark, new housing and new hope, efforts are underway to make Coney a year-round destination.

    Last week, that goal moved a step closer to reality when the Coney Island Development Corp. selected the accounting firm of Ernst & Young and the architectural firm of Davis Brody Bond to produce a strategic development plan for the community.

    Development corporation President Joshua Sirefman says that with so many positive initiatives underway at Coney Island, the timing is right.

    According to Sirefman, the Transit Authority's $235 million reconstruction of the Stillwell Ave. station, the soon-to-be-released $45 million master plan development for the future of the Coney Island Aquarium and the success of the Cyclones baseball team are all providing momentum for development.

    Unlike past plans and ideas for Coney Island, Sirefman and others insist that this time there is a real commitment to Coney's future.

    Ernst & Young and the Davis group are no strangers to development. Charles Shorter, who heads the Ernst & Young team, played a major role in the redevelopment of Penn Station, the Apollo Theatre and waterfront development along the Hudson River in New York and New Jersey.

    Davis Brody Bond's recent projects include the Fulton St. Redevelopment Plan in downtown Brooklyn, as well as the expansion of Lincoln Center.

    The goal now is for the team to provide a plan that will result in jobs, housing, commercial growth and the revitalization of the amusement district.

    "The plan is going to have to be holistic in its approach to any development. The priorities must be the creation of jobs by making this a year-round destination," said Judy Orlando, executive director of Coney Island-based Astella Development Corp. and a member of the Coney Island Development Corp.

    During the past decade Astella has helped create more than 1,000 new units of affordable housing in Coney Island. Last June, Astella released a study outlining a vision for its future, with a focus on the amusement area.

    "Obviously the work of Ernst & Young and DB&B would take in a much wider scope," Orlando said.

    Community Board 13 district manager Chuck Reichenthal, another member of the Coney Island Development Corp., said the Astella study can be a very helpful tool to the new planning team.

    "The Astella report will make for an excellent jump-off point. But there is a lot of work to be done," Reichenthal said.

    Everyone is eager to get started.

    The development corporation will meet tomorrow at Coney Island Hospital starting at 6 p.m. The first portion of the session is open to the public.

    Copyright 2004 Daily News, L.P.

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    Ferry service would be a good idea. Transportation is a major roadblock to NYCers going to CI for entertainment. I live in Brooklyn Heights and I might as well be in Hawaii for as likely as I am to lure a Manhattanite to my hood. And the 2/3 can get me to 7th & 14th in 20 minutes.

    And CI takes an HOUR by subway from my place!

    Of course now some of the orange/yellow trains run express to CI, so I'll see this summer if commute times are better. I take the cyclone every summer, but am always amazed how long it takes to get there.

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