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    Quote Originally Posted by muscle1313
    Think the sports facility is going to be a small part of a huge plan for Coney. I ran into a couple of members of the development team when my wife and I went to an outdoor concert in Coney Thursday. They were leaving a meeting with the aquarium folks. The CIDC is totally focused on making Coney a year round destination. They told me the plan should be out in November. Next meeting will be around September 30th open to all.
    Let's hope it a solid, comprehensive, original plan that will really attract development and not end up on a bookshelf somewhere. Make it fun, make it one-of-a-kind...make it NY and Coney.

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    I'm not much in favor of the sports complex. Keyspan Park is enough of that sort of thing. C.I. is a unique place with unique opportunities. The ideas emanating from the CIDC so far are bland, unexciting and will do little to encourage further development. I seems the amusement and beachfront area has been bereft of any meaningful development in such a long time that folks accept "anything" as the "best thing".

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    "Year round" is the key. Coney Island does fine economically on sunny summer weekends, but it's deserted much of the rest of the year. A recreational sports facility that can draw people from the rest of Brooklyn (as Chelsea Piers does in Manhattan) could make an important contribution to making Coney a year-round destination. Yes, "unique" attractions are desirable, but attactions that draw people day after day are essential.

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    What about unique attractions that draw people day after day?

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    C.I. is not Manhattan and a Chelsea Piers type of recreation / sports facility would likely be cost-prohibitive to many residents of the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmg
    "Year round" is the key. Coney Island does fine economically on sunny summer weekends, but it's deserted much of the rest of the year. A recreational sports facility that can draw people from the rest of Brooklyn (as Chelsea Piers does in Manhattan) could make an important contribution to making Coney a year-round destination. Yes, "unique" attractions are desirable, but attactions that draw people day after day are essential.
    Year round is definitely the direction the CIDC is going. Thats the impression I get from attending the meetings. I have no problem with an indoor sports facility but my big question though is they are building one like Chelsea Piers already in South Brooklyn at Floyd Bennett Field. I wouldn't want a carbon copy just a few miles away. That extreme sports proposal sounds pretty good to me. I hope they consider some type of Waterpark too. Indoor or Outdoor.

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    Staples mega-store coming to Coney Island


    By Jotham Sederstrom
    The Brooklyn Papers

    In what neighborhood leaders hope is the first sign of a coming development boom, Staples office supply store will join a Linens ‘n’ Things in an underdeveloped area of Coney Island.

    The Economic Development Corporation announced on Thursday that a Manhattan-based development group would build a 13,000-square-foot Staples across the street from the newly opened Linens ‘n’ Things in the building formerly occupied by Topps Appliance City, which closed several years ago. The development sits at the intersection of Cropsey Avenue and Hart Place near the Coney Island Creek and the Belt Parkway.

    SAM Coney Island LLC, which is comprised mostly of Vista Realty Partners in Manhattan, developed Linens ‘n’ Things late last year and expects to open the Staples next year. Several other major retailers on the currently drab strip are also planned, said Marc Esrig, a managing member of the group.

    “The development of this property is great news for Coney Island and the neighboring communities,” said Economic Development Corp. President Andrew Alper in a prepared statement announcing the Staples deal. “This was a dilapidated lot plagued by illegal dumping. On behalf of the city, EDC worked with the developer to clean up the site and make it suitable for economic development.”
    Esrig said that the group purchased the 25,900-square-foot city-owned lot for approximately $500,000, a cost that included about $46,845 in environmental cleanup costs. The deal, which includes both public and private property, began taking shape five years ago, but complications resulted from the large amount of pollution that had accumulated on the site over the years.

    Esrig said the store, which is slated to open within one year, will be built from the ground up at a cost of approximately $3.4 million. Two derelict buildings were demolished earlier this year, including the former Topps, which closed four years ago. An adjacent lot will be used for parking.

    The project is expected to yield 15 construction jobs and 25 jobs in the Staples store itself, said a spokesman for the Economic Development Corp.

    As for continued development in the area, Esrig said that within “the first quarter of 2005” residents can expect to see more big-name stores, though which ones he declined to say.

    “It would be another big name, hopefully another big name retailer,” said Esrig. “We’re looking to redevelop and we’d probably demolish in a small commercial area. The area has a lot of work that has to be done.”

    In October, members of the Coney Island Development Corporation expect to unveil a rough plan for the future of the neighborhood. Many property owners say that once those plans are revealed, much of the area bordered by Neptune Avenue to the north, the beach and boardwalk to the south, Ocean Parkway to the east and West 37th Street to the west will also be redeveloped.

    “I think that once those plans come out, you’ll see guns blaring away,” said Horace Bullard, a major property owner whose holdings include land where the old Thunderbolt roller coaster once stood, next to Keyspan Park

    “Coney Island is a name known all over the world and you would spend millions of dollars to get that kind of recognition,” Bullard said. There’s definitely a lot of interest.”

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    Ugh. No more box chains.

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    Cropsey Ave is perfect for big retail. Right off the Belt Parkway and not part of the amusement district. I hope WalMart, Target or Costco come next. I love big box chains. They bring a huge amount of business into an area, and spur further development.

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    How about building the Mets a new stadium at Coney Island, they seem to be a natural fit. The Minor League team is doing quite well there.

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    That's actually a good idea, but I doubt it would happen.

    Big box sucks precisely because one leads to another, and another...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp
    Big box sucks precisely because one leads to another, and another...
    Exactly why I like big box so much. Spurs development.

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    You know with Home Depot, Linens N Things, and now Staples coming to Cropsey Ave and the CI Terminal Mall coming next year, Coney is going to be quite a year round retail spot. Very good for the neighborhood. Reminds me of whats going on with Downtown Brooklyn retail revitalization.

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    Are you guys familiar with any of the developers listed in the article? Any thoughts on previous projects by these folks?

    From Globe St.com

    Coney Island Preps for Revitalization
    By Barbara Jarvie
    Last updated: Wednesday, September 1, 2004 10:26pm

    CONEY ISLAND, NY-The city sold a 25,900-sf lot here that will be combined with two adjacent lots to become a Staples. This is part of an initiative to transform the community known across the world for its amusement area into a year-round destination.



    Created in September 2003, the Coney Island Development Corp. aims to create a plan to diversify the area. After issuing a Request for Proposals, the group selected Ernst & Young and Davis Brody Bond to create a strategic plan for this Brooklyn neighborhood.



    According to Joshua J. Sirefman, CIDC president, the consultants will devise a strategy for implementing short- and long-term improvements. The key aspects of the strategy will be to build on the existing business base, develop vacant property and market the area for a variety of year-round uses. “The team is capable of taking on the challenges of transforming Coney Island into a year-round destination.” A full report is expected in the fall.



    Other members of the E&Y/DBB team include Halcyon Ltd, retail specialists; Vollmer Associates LLP, engineering and landscape architects; Karin Bacon Events, public space programming; Streetworks, retail developers; and Strategic Leisure, entertainment production development.



    SAM Coney Island LLC purchased the lot in the urban renewal area at the intersection of Cropsey Avenue and Hart Place near Coney Island Creek for $325,000. The developer also paid $46,845 toward the environmental clean-up costs. The project is expected to yield 15 construction jobs and 25 permanent ones, according to New York City Economic Development Corp. president Andrew Alper. “This was a dilapidated lot plagued by illegal dumping. The developer’s interest in the property reflects the City’s overall revitalization efforts in Coney Island.”



    This marks the second venture in the area for Vista Realty Partners LLC, one of the partners of SAM Coney Island LLC. The developer fitted the site across from the 13,000-sf Staples and leased it and a parking area to Linens ‘n Things. “We believe the area is poised for continued growth,” Marc Esrig, managing member of Vista Realty Partners LLC.

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    CIDC Meeting


    Date: Thursday, September 30th, 2004

    Location: Coney Island Hospital, 2601 Ocean Parkway, 2nd Floor
    Time: 6:00 p.m.

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