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    I have a friend who was murdered in December. He was killed in his home at 6PM. He was a public school teacher and had no criminal record. The police have alternately claimed to have photos of the killer(s) and no leads.

    I'm glad to see that murder is down, but Mr. Kelly's obsession with numbers over lives leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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    June 1, 2005 -- Crime in the city continues to drop — new figures out this week show that it's down 6 percent so far this year.

    "We're getting the job done," Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said during a budget hearing at the City Council yesterday.

    Murders are down 16 percent compared with the first five months of last year.

    Rape is down 8.8 percent, and bank robberies have plummeted a whopping 46 percent.

    Kelly said the NYPD has made 3,200 DWI arrests, 20 percent more than in the same period last year.

    As a result, he said, DWI-related accidents have dropped 13 percent and DWI-related deaths have plunged 25 percent.

    Earlier this year, Kelly identified 18 areas in the city where crime had spiked, and focused resources on those areas, called "impact zones."

    The result is a 24 percent reduction in crime in those neighborhoods so far this year.

    Shootings there have fallen 13 percent.

    Kelly also said he's going forward with the plan — first reported in The Post — to install 400 surveillance cameras across the city, adding, "I think it will help us further reduce crime."

    He estimated that the cameras would cost about $20,000 each.

    "We're looking for the federal government to help us," he said.

    There are already 3,100 surveillance cameras at city housing projects.

    "It's proven to be an effective tool," Kelly said.

    The commissioner also said this is the first year the NYPD academy's graduating class had more minorities than whites: 55 percent to 45 percent.

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    June 1, 2005 -- An audience of cops can now view replays of crimes committed on select Brooklyn subway stations.

    The MTA has completed a $1.2 million project to install 120 high-tech video cameras at nine stations on the N, F and D lines in Borough Park, Midwood, Kensington and Flatbush.

    Word of the anti-crime initiative comes in the wake of the disclosure Monday in The Post that Police Commissioner Ray Kelly wants to set up 400 such cameras on high-crime streets.

    Like the street cameras, the ones in the subway subway will not be monitored 24-7, but will record the action for later viewing.

    Assemblyman Dov Hikind, who secured state funding for the video equipment, said, "We know trains have been targeted by terrorists, and we must keep the millions who ride the subways every day safe from criminals and terrorists."

    Civil-liberties groups say the cameras violate privacy while doing little to cut crime. Hikind said he'd like to see the entire transit system wired with video cameras.

    NYC Transit yesterday declined to comment.

    The nine stations are outfitted with anywhere from 10 to 18 cameras, monitors, digital video recorders and a video switcher.

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    All of these cameras, does this starts to sound like BIG BROTHER to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    All of these cameras, does this starts to sound like BIG BROTHER to you?
    Not really. If they're in places that are by definition and tradition public, then I'd have no problem with a camera there. But in my opinion, nothing beats the presence of a real person.

    Now, if the Ministry of Love wanted to put a telescreen in my bathroom...

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    New York Drop in Crime Outpaced National Trend in Virtually Every Crime Category in 2004

    Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly today announced that the FBI’s annual Uniform Crime Reports for 2004 ranks New York City even lower in overall crime than in 2003. According to the FBI report, the City experienced a 4% drop in overall crime – more than twice the national average drop of 1.8%. Moreover, New York City ranked 221st out of 240 cities across the nation on the total crime index; in 2003, the City ranked 211th out of 230. In 2004, violent crime decreased 6.3% in New York, more than three times the national decline of 1.7%, and New York’s 3.2% decline in property crime exceeded the national decrease of 1.8%. From 2001 to 2004, overall crime in New York City declined 14%, seven times the national decrease of 2% during that period.
    “In 2004, the safest big city in America got even safer,” said Mayor Bloomberg. “From fighting graffiti and quality-of-life offenses to preventing the most violent crimes, we have been able to make New York the safest it’s been in decades. 2004 was the 3rd straight year with fewer than 600 homicides and the fewest homicides since 1963. I would like to thank the men and women of the Police Department for their hard work and dedication to keeping our streets safe.”

    “The men and women of the NYPD have proven their mettle time and again, driving crime down to what some thought were impossibly low levels,” said Commissioner Kelly.

    The City’s murder rate of 7 per 100,000 of population in 2004 was half that of Los Angeles and Chicago which were 13.5 and 15.5 respectively. The murder rate in Philadelphia was three times higher at 22.1. Detroit was seven times higher at 41.5. Over the past four years, the murder rate in New York City declined 12% (2004 compared to 2001) compared to a national decline of only 0.5% during the same period.

    In virtually every crime category, New York City’s decline outpaced the national trend in 2004. Murder was down 4.5% compared to 3.6% nationally; rape was down 11.2% compared to a 0.3% decline nationally. Robbery was down 6.2 % compared to approximately half that at 3.6% nationally. Aggravated assault declined 6.2% and only 0.8% nationally. Burglary was down 7.8% and down 1.4% nationally. Motor vehicle theft dropped 10.8% compared to 2.6% nationally.

    The FBI’s total crime index ranks cities of 100,000 people or more by the number of crimes per 100,000 people. For 2004, the total crime index in New York City was 2801.6 crimes per 100,000 people. Of the 240 cities with populations of 100,000 or more reporting to the FBI, NYC ranked 221 in total index crime, between San Jose CA and Torrance CA. Out of the nation’s 10 largest cities, New York City ranked 10th with the fewest overall crimes on the total crime index, and had the steepest drop of any of the 10 largest cities. Out of the nation’s 25 largest cities, New York ranked 25th, an improvement of its position of 24th of 25 in 2003.

    The following chart shows where New York City ranked in the total crime index for the nation’s 10 largest cities.

    Year End 2004 City Rate
    1 Dallas 8959.7
    2 Detroit 7903.7
    3 Phoenix 7402.3
    4 San Antonio 7346.8
    5 Houston 7194.8
    6 Las Vegas 5838.0
    7 Philadelphia 5470.5
    8 Los Angeles 4376.0
    9 San Diego 4102.7
    10 New York 2801.6

    “In 2005, we are on track to improve on what we accomplished last year. Overall crime is down another 6% and is down almost 20% from four years ago. Murder is down 15% this year and 28% from four years ago. We aren’t going to rest on our laurels for even a moment; we are going to keep making the safest big city even safer,” Mayor Bloomberg concluded.
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    Monday, June 27th, 2005

    The city is on pace to log fewer than 500 murders this year - which would be the lowest since 1961 and mark a huge achievement for the NYPD, statistics show.

    When a record 2,245 people were killed in 1990, it seemed impossible for most New Yorkers to imagine even getting the depressing tally below 1,000.

    And in recent years - following the city's heralded decade-plus crime slide - the number 600 was held up by City Hall and the NYPD as the new standard for the nation's safest big city.

    Slashing the murder count to below 500 has not been discussed publicly, but it now appears to be a possibility. The number of slayings across the city has fallen nearly 17% - to 215 from 259 - so far this year, NYPD data through June 19 show. If the trend holds, there will be 465 slayings in 2005.

    "By quickly addressing any spike in crime or change in quality-of-life conditions, we've been able to continue to drive crime down," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly told the Daily News. "In short, good policing work by great police officers."

    Overall, crime has dropped 4.9% across the city this year, with every major category - except robberies - marking a decrease, according to NYPD data.

    "The question is, How low can you go?" said Thomas Reppetto, president of the Citizens Crime Commission. "Crime hasn't inched back up, as many predicted. So it seems possible that the city can break 500 murders this year."

    There were 570 murders in 2004.

    The last time there were fewer than 500 murders was the 482 murders recorded in 1961 - when Roger Maris broke Babe Ruth's single-season home run record and it cost 15 cents to ride the subway.

    But in 1962, the murder count jumped to 548, Reppetto noted.

    Police officials credit much of this year's decrease to their Operation Impact initiative, which floods high-crime zones with cops, many of them rookies.

    Kelly also divided the city's most crime-filled area, the 75th Precinct in Brooklyn, into three patrol zones and added more cops. The move seems to have worked, with the area recording a 16% crime drop.

    "Whatever they are doing is making a difference," said Elmae Reynolds, 51, of East New York, Brooklyn. "You don't have to walk around kids dealing on the corners so much. They are getting pushed out."

    A recent jump in shootings in the Bronx and Brooklyn North precincts led the NYPD to move 250 cops from other posts to better safeguard those areas.

    Nonviolent crime also has declined so far this year, according to statistics through June 19.

    Grand larceny, the only crime to rise in 2004, decreased .5%, a decline attributed in part to a crackdown on credit card thieves. Investigators even staked out gas stations, where crime rings had been using the stolen plastic.

    Not everyone believes the current crime data are trustworthy. Police union bosses have charged that NYPD brass pressures cops to fudge the data - a claim the department has called ridiculous.

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    New York's Falling Crime Rate Is a Potent Weapon for the Mayor


    New York City's police force has fewer officers, less money and more work than it did four years ago. Yet, by almost any measure, the city is safer today than it was before Michael R. Bloomberg became mayor in January 2002.

    If that sounds like grist for a campaign commercial, it is. Public safety has emerged as Mr. Bloomberg's not-so-secret weapon as he goes about pressing his case for re-election.

    Mr. Bloomberg aggressively wields statistics showing that he not only continued the efforts of Rudolph W. Giuliani, who made crime-fighting a signature issue, but also did so while putting 1,000 officers on antiterrorism duty and avoiding the racial tensions that bedeviled his predecessor. Crime citywide has decreased 20 percent since 2001, outpacing the decline in the nation as a whole, according to F.B.I. data, and polls show widespread support for the mayor's public safety policies.

    "We are," Mr. Bloomberg said in a campaign speech in Brooklyn last week, "the safest big city in America."

    For New York mayors seeking re-election, crime can be a decisive issue. David N. Dinkins lost re-election to Mr. Giuliani as the city was struggling to cope with the murderous legacy of the crack epidemic. Mr. Giuliani, in turn, easily won a second term in 1997 on the basis of a sharp drop in crime.

    But when Mr. Bloomberg took office, there were serious doubts about whether the lower crime rates of the Giuliani years could be maintained, much less improved upon. With New Yorkers still digging out from the rubble of ground zero, a Police Department consumed with preventing another attack and falling crime rates starting to level off, the new mayor seemed unlikely to run very far with the crime-buster's torch passed to him by Mr. Giuliani. What is more, Mr. Bloomberg, a billionaire businessman with no previous political experience, had to contend with a projected $6 billion budget deficit.

    By proving the skeptics wrong, Mr. Bloomberg, a Republican, largely defused a potential campaign issue this year for his Democratic opponent, Fernando Ferrer. Mr. Ferrer's comments on public safety issues have tended to be limited, and focused on mass transit, where he accuses the mayor of not doing enough to prevent a terrorist attack.

    In fact, it is the administration's recent attempt to improve subway security, by conducting random bag searches, that has highlighted what some say is a blot on Mr. Bloomberg's record: his contentious relationship with civil liberties advocates, who argue that the police have trampled on privacy and free speech when patrolling for terrorists and confronting political protesters.

    There have also been complaints of heavy-handedness by new "safety agents" assigned to city schools. And for all of the mayor's efforts to take credit for the decline in crime, there are criminologists who argue that shifting demographics and other societal factors, rather than policing strategies, are driving the crime rate down.

    But even those skeptics are impressed that the decrease has progressed faster in New York than in other cities. Andrew Karmen, a sociology professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, who wrote a book on the city's declining homicide rate, said an independent commission of experts should search for answers to New York's success.

    "This issue of why crime is down so much in New York City is really too important to leave to the politicians, who will always claim credit for it," Dr. Karmen said. "What has happened here is really quite remarkable."

    New Priorities

    In 1993, the year before Mr. Giuliani took office, there were 1,946 murders in New York. By the time he left City Hall at the end of 2001, that number had dropped to 714.

    It was an incredible feat, and one that loomed especially large for Mr. Bloomberg as he began trying to move out from under Mr. Giuliani's long shadow and make his own mark on public safety.

    He began by choosing as his police commissioner Raymond W. Kelly, who had already held the job from 1992 to 1994 and later ran the United States Treasury Department's law enforcement agencies. Aides to Mr. Bloomberg said the mayor was motivated, in part, by the belief that Mr. Kelly's federal government experience could be useful in shaping the city's nascent counterterrorism strategy - an all-consuming priority for the new administration.

    Mr. Kelly hired a former Central Intelligence Agency official to run the Police Department's own intelligence bureau, which began stationing detectives in hot spots around the world to collect information on potential threats to New York.

    The Police Department was forced to divert substantial resources to antiterrorism, assigning about 1,000 officers, at a cost of $900,000 a week in overtime pay, to protect major landmarks and transportation hubs. By 2004, the annual cost of the counterterrorism effort was $164 million, but because of budget cuts the total department budget had slipped to $3.58 billion from $3.7 billion in 2001, and the number of officers to 37,000 from 40,000.

    Mr. Kelly said in an interview that the counterterrorism strategy worked, and he cited several examples of thwarted plots, including planned bombings of the Brooklyn Bridge and the Herald Square subway station. He also said the use of heavily armed "Hercules teams," who show up randomly around the city in public displays of strength, had been a deterrent.

    "How do you measure success?" Mr. Kelly said, referring to the counterterrorism effort. "If nothing happens, we're successful to that extent. But there are three cases, at least that we're aware of, where it seems that things we were doing here acted as a deterrent or we took them into custody."

    But all the attention to terrorism has threatened to divert resources from the department's central crime-fighting mission. Summonses for quality-of-life infractions, such as those involving noise or trash, dropped to 444,000 in the fiscal that ended in 2002 from 526,000 in the previous year prompting concern by the administration that enforcement on such offenses was slipping.

    Conventional wisdom also dictated that after nearly a decade of declining crime rates, the city must soon encounter a core of crime resistant to law enforcement efforts. John Feinblatt, the mayor's criminal justice coordinator, said that reducing crime further would demand "another level of work, another level of analysis and another level of creativity."

    Police Strategies

    Mr. Bloomberg, who made his fortune developing new methods of delivering large amounts of data to financial professionals, is nothing if not a technocrat. And his appreciation of computer analysis meshed well with the Police Department's preoccupation with statistics.

    The department under Mr. Giuliani created Compstat, which, as originally conceived, allowed precinct commanders to track and respond to major crime trends. The system was credited with helping drive down crime and was widely replicated in other cities.

    The Bloomberg administration decided not only to expand Compstat's data collection to include such things as misdemeanors, police overtime and abuse complaints, but also to use the information in different ways. No longer was the department simply mapping crime; now it was also analyzing the data to pinpoint the people responsible for a disproportionate share of offenses in specific neighborhoods, Mr. Feinblatt said.

    "What resulted was "Operation Spotlight," which looks for people with three or more arrests in the preceding 12 months and flags them once they re-enter the court system, often resulting in longer jail sentences. Mr. Kelly also started "Operation Impact" to identify high-crime zones, sometimes as small as a few blocks or inside a specific school, and to flood those areas with police officers, who have made more than 20,000 arrests and issued 335,000 summonses in the zones.

    The resulting drop in crimes would seem to indicate that the extra police presence worked: Last year, major felonies declined 26 percent in the high-crime zones, compared with 5 percent citywide. Murders in New York continued to drop during Mr. Bloomberg's tenure, , totaling 572 in 2004.

    Technology was brought to bear in other ways. Charles J. Hynes, the Brooklyn district attorney, recalled sitting down in 2001 with Mr. Bloomberg, then a candidate, and being asked what initiatives he would like to see. He told Mr. Bloomberg there should be a way to get tapes of 911 calls from domestic violence cases into the courtroom more quickly for judges to consider when setting bail for a suspect.

    "The thought was, if we could digitalize the calls, and get them to the judges so they could hear the screams at the arraignment, it would be very effective," Mr. Hynes said. "He thought it was a wonderful idea, and six months after he was elected it was in place."

    The city also started using DNA evidence to obtain indictments against yet-to-be-identified rape suspects, before the statute of limitations on the crimes expire. Most recently, Mr. Kelly created a "real-time crime center" designed to quickly get information on potential suspects into the hands of detectives or officers responding to a crime scene.To be sure, not all public safety indicators have been moving in the right direction.

    Grand larceny cases are up, which the Police Department says is caused in part by a nationwide increase in identify theft. Although crime in the subways is down compared with four years ago, thefts of iPods and other portable music players contributed to a 5 percent increase in felonies in the transit system last year.

    In addition, while fire-related deaths have declined, average Fire Department response times to building fires have inched upward to 4 minutes 31 seconds this year, from 4 minutes 16 seconds in 2001. The firefighters' union has complained that budget cuts stretched the department's response capabilities too thin.

    Community Relations

    Early one morning in January 2004, a police officer climbing a stairwell to a Brooklyn rooftop was startled when a door opened suddenly, and he shot and killed Timothy Stansbury, the unarmed black man who opened it. The death of Mr. Stansbury, 19, appeared to set the stage for a repeat of the racially charged collisions between New York's black and Hispanic communities and City Hall that marked the Giuliani era.

    Instead, something different happened.

    Within 12 hours, Mr. Kelly declared the shooting unjustified, and Mr. Bloomberg was on his way to visit the victim's family. Although the commissioner was criticized by the police union for too quickly casting judgment, he and the mayor won praise for helping to defuse a potentially divisive incident.

    Mr. Bloomberg's reaction to that and other tragedies earned him praise from unexpected sources, including the Rev. Al Sharpton, who has since endorsed Mr. Ferrer. A Quinnipiac poll released in June found that 53 percent of black voters approved of how the Police Department was doing its job; the same poll in May 2001 found that only 29 percent did.

    Even critics who fault aspects of the Bloomberg administration's civil rights record acknowledge that racial tensions have eased.

    "When there are bad outcomes, when people die at the hands of the police, you have a different kind of response from this administration than from the Giuliani administration," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

    Still, there are those who remain unconvinced. City Councilman Charles Barron, a Democrat from Brooklyn who has yet to endorse a mayoral candidate in the general election, called Mr. Bloomberg "a kinder, gentler Giuliani" who he said has ignored the economic causes of crime in poor neighborhoods. He was not impressed by the mayor's attempts to reach out to families of victims of police mistakes.

    "I give him absolutely no credit for doing what a mayor is supposed to do, which is to go to the funeral and apologize," Mr. Barron said. "What's happened is that Giuliani was so horrible, what should be an ordinary response has come to be viewed as extraordinary."

    Accusations of police misconduct filed with the Civilian Complaint Review Board have risen, although the percentage of those upheld after an investigation is about the same as it was in 2002. Some of the rise in complaints stems from the wave of arrests outside the Republican National Convention in 2004, which resulted in accusations that police mistreated protesters. Of 1,806 people arrested, only about 13 percent were convicted or pleaded guilty as of August.

    Ms. Lieberman said the police tactics, including random bag searches in train stations that began after the London subway bombings in July, were examples of "vague concerns about terrorism being invoked to justify a massive and disastrous encroachment on our civil liberties."

    "The Police Department has adopted a suspicious attitude toward lawful political protest in the name of national security," she said. "They treat demonstrations as if every one was a criminal encounter, rather than an expression of America at its best."

    Debate on Causes

    New York's declining crime rate has outpaced the rest of the country's. But because the nationwide drop in major crimes such as homicides is so widespread, some criminologists argue that no politician or police department can credibly lay claim to single-handedly beating back crime in their city.

    "I've always been a little reluctant to give too much credit to the police," said Jeffrey A. Fagan, a professor of law and public health at Columbia University who has studied crime trends.

    Still, Dr. Fagan said that New York police "are using a very strategic approach to crime control. It's problem-oriented policing, and they are pursuing it in a very intelligent way."

    Academic experts cite several plausible contributors to the nationwide trend, including an aging population (young men are responsible for most crimes), the end of the crack cocaine epidemic, , an improving economy and rising rates of homeownership in urban areas. Mr. Kelly himself acknowledges that "shifting drug use patterns" probably is a factor.

    "Crack hit New York City like a tidal wave around 1985," he said. "I remember I was a precinct commander and we were stepping on vials - we didn't even know what it was then - but homicides went up 60 percent from 1985 to 1990."

    But Mr. Kelly also points to the gains evident in the high-crime zones when officers flood into an area as proof that increased police presence, smartly deployed, works. He pointed to the homicide rate, which, while at its lowest citywide in more than 30 years, declined faster in the impact zones.

    For Dr. Karmen of John Jay, who wrote a book called, "New York Murder Mystery: The True Story Behind the Crime Crash of the 1990's," the jury is still out on the question of who, or what, has made the city so much safer.

    "I pretty much concluded that the mystery is unsolved," he said.

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    Grand Larceny up 4.5%, oh, it nearly stole my breath away.

    What the hell are people stealing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynRider
    Grand Larceny up 4.5%, oh, it nearly stole my breath away.

    What the hell are people stealing?
    You think the Grand Larc numbers are up? Hahahaha, You should see the Petit Larc numbers...

    Robberies are up. Way up. Especially in the Bronx and Manhattan North. A big thing now is stealing cell phones. Nextel especially. If not Nextel they steal your phone and cell the sim card on the street, you get unlimited calls until the victim cancels the plan. It works something like that, whatever they do they make money.

    In the subways iPods are the easiest targets in the world. The White headphones really stand out. These things get stolen left and right, especially since the iPod Mini came out. The price dropped and a lot of low income people stepped into the iPod market. A lot of iPods that get stolen here in the Bronx are iPod Mini and Shuffle.

    Shootings are also up a ton. In the last 7 days, we have had 4 cop related shootouts. One invloved an exchange of over 77 shots fired. More guns are out on the street becuase we no longer have elite anti-gun teams.

    # fudgeing, downgrading crimes, "missing" reports. It's out of control in this city. I won't get into it, some of you forumers are a bit overally passionate about NYC, but it's a huge scandel. Some of the downgrading has gotton out of control. Homicides as "investigate D.O.A.". Rapes as "Investigate Aided". Misd don't appear on Compstat, so they exploit this. The crime has to be classified as one of the 7 listed felonies. It's out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Law & Order
    Any proof of what you say?
    A few months ago an officer was suspended in the 50th Precinct (North West Bronx). It was becuase he refused to downgrade a crime from a felony to a misd. He went public with it, but despite efforts, no one gave a shit.

    I deleted the other shit I typed, i'll type it again in a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BxOne
    Shootings are also up a ton. In the last 7 days, we have had 4 cop related shootouts.
    I've noticed this in the news...

    It seems like every day now there are reports of shootings.

    A few were double shootings -- homicide / suicide.

    Are a lot of these drug related?

    For whatever reason the shootings are happening, the rising numbers seem to show that desperate times are upon us.

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    No doubt that a lot of these numbers are fudged or narrowly defined. But if there really is a grand scheme to dupe New Yorkers into thinking that crime is down by watering down the crime index, the police can't have been carrying it on for fifteen years without anyone noticing.
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    Geez, what is up with this thing? It hasn't been showing my entire message.

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