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    Quote Originally Posted by stache
    There was an article (I believe it was the L.A. times) a few years back about tagging. Apparantly a lot of it is a unique language that tells other people the relative ease or hinderances to conducting business in the area, much like hobo's markings. The hired some guys in L.A. to decipher the tags and they solved some problems that way.

    Those damn wi-fi scouters!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD
    nym, I'm neither new to NYC or just plain old.
    Well your mentality is that of an aged hick, what are you doing here?

    In the August 2005 issue of Wired Magazine, there is an article about a graffiti artist

    August 2005. Not August 1955. Wake up.

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    There is one good thing about graffiti ďas a topicĒ
    It sure fuels a passion from both sides. For those who see the city as a canvas youíre discriminating against itís citizens! The bottom line is if itís not yours to make a decision on and must get permission to tag it up , then you are commiting a crime hense discriminating against the owner of the so called canvas.

    This applies to you!! I cannot make a decision Without your consent, to walk into your home tag up your bedroom, then walk away!
    Why do you?

    That being said, as a social ill, this form of expression goes back centuries, will never be eradicated.

    I actually enjoy graffiti, it is an urban thing and when done like at the Phun factory now called the 5 points, itís quite the thing to see.

    M.

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    BTW, Up here in Montreal, this is the graffiti capital of Canada. The movement has been strong now for 15 years. The city will spend a million dollars to remove the shit! Our transit system has been hit hard as well.

    So as you can see, itís not only in NYC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nym9
    Well your mentality is that of an aged hick, what are you doing here?

    In the August 2005 issue of Wired Magazine, there is an article about a graffiti artist

    August 2005. Not August 1955. Wake up.
    Um, again, how old are you?

    You believe that "wired" is the gospel?

    You are not going to convince anyone here of anything by coming out and insulting the person making the comments. You are not addressing the issue, but simply calling the person making the points an 'old coot' and assuming that that removes him entirely from any realm of viability when it comes to commenting on Grafitti and what goes on in his neighborhood is not a viable line of arguement.


    If you want to fight with people, there are plenty of other boards to do that on.
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    I can't take nym9's comments seriously, since some "old" person(s) is probably paying for the roof over his head and the food he eats.

    I wonder if he pays for his own phat cans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp
    I can't take nym9's comments seriously, since some "old" person(s) is probably paying for the roof over his head and the food he eats.

    I wonder if he pays for his own phat cans?
    I am wondering also how much this n00bie poster is coming at us strait or if he is deliberately yanking chains.

    Ah well. "As long as he is under THIS roof..... yadda yadda yadda, lets have lunch."

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    yo, nym9, you have, like, so set me straight. Since a graffiti artist is in Wired Magazine, you are obviously in the right.

    Time 2 git educated. Can't wait to bomb yo place.

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    Satisfying graffiti.

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    From today's Times:

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    August 16, 2005
    City Revokes Party Permit Over Exhibit With Graffiti
    By JIM RUTENBERG
    The city has revoked a permit awarded to organizers of a block party celebrating graffiti, saying it will not grant another one unless the group scraps plans to have graffiti writers spray paint murals onto models of New York City subway trains. The city acted hours after Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg criticized the plans yesterday.

    The block party, scheduled for Aug. 24, was to be held on West 22nd Street by the fashion designer Marc Ecko to celebrate the upcoming release of the video game he designed for Atari, "Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure." The game features characters who vandalize a city called New Radius with graffiti in defiance of a corrupt and tyrannical local government.

    Mr. Ecko was granted the permit on July 18, after months of talks with community leaders in Chelsea.

    The city revoked the permit yesterday, the same day City Councilman Peter Vallone Jr. was quoted in The Daily News as saying the party was "promoting criminal acts."

    In agreeing with the councilman, Mr. Bloomberg ventured into a traditionally tricky debate for mayors of a city that is considered a world art capital, namely: When does art cross the line, and when, if ever, should government intervene?

    "Look, there is a fine line here between freedom of expression and going out and encouraging people to hurt this city," Mr. Bloomberg said during a visit to a senior citizens center in Queens yesterday. "Defacing subway cars is hardly a joke; encouraging people, kids in particular, to do that after all the money we've spent, all the time we've spent removing graffiti."

    A few hours later, the mayor's Office of Community Affairs rescinded Mr. Ecko's permit. The office said it did so because Mr. Ecko had not explained that the event was to promote a video game, which would require a different permit than the one needed for an art exhibition.

    The office invited Mr. Ecko to apply for a new permit, and Mr. Bloomberg implied that it would be approved if Mr. Ecko dropped the planned graffiti exhibit.

    "We have talked to them and asked them to not have a subway car motif to write graffiti," Mr. Bloomberg said. "This is not really art or expression, this is, let's be honest about what it is: It's trying to encourage people to do something that's not in anybody's interest."

    Clint Cantwell, a spokesman for Mr. Ecko, said Mr. Ecko would consider the request but also said he doubted that Mr. Ecko would agree to it. "We're still hoping to find a middle ground with them, but it's an uphill battle for us," he said, adding that the subway graffiti display was "really the heart of this exhibition, and it's celebrating the origins of graffiti in New York City, and that's the canvas we came up with."

    He said that the organizers were upfront about the event, and that while they would continue to speak with the city, they were considering finding an alternate location for the event, possibly on private property.

    "We're not going to fight City Hall," he said. "We're not going to win."

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    What a shame. This should go to the Supreme Court; what terrible curtailing of free expression.

    Bravo, Bloomberg!

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    "really the heart of this exhibition, and it's celebrating the origins of graffiti in New York City, and that's the canvas we came up with."

    I cry BS!!!!!

    Celebrating the origins of community vandalisim? Come ON!

    1. Subway cars were not the start. I think ever since man could scribble on the walls he has been trying to leave his mark in one way or another.

    2. He is promoting a VIDEO GAME whose object is to SPRAYPAINT A CITY! might as well put a dance pad in it and let you shoot cops. Rockstar he ain't.

    3. Art is one thing, but if it is not on your property, and it is of permanent (or semi-permanent) nature, you have to get the approval of the people who own it, in the case of things like Subways, the city and its people.

    4. They are now looking for private property to hold it on, which is what they should have done from the start. I hear LA is lovely this time of year, maybe they should promote this crappy insult to the gaming community there!

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    Man, NYC is becoming a joke. This artistic project has already happened in many cities, including last week in Toronto, to rave reviews.

    Graffiti murals are already all over the city, including in many galleries that cater to rich whites like Bloomberg who can afford the high prices that you can't.

    Even Time Magazine knows the deal, when they commissioned NYC Graffiti artists to create an outdoor ad featuring NYC Graffiti.

    Revoke all the permits you want, the illegal art will just get bigger and badder and theres nothing you can do about that.

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    The model subway car as canvas has already been done. Do a search on "Tag the System"

    Here are works from that exhibit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artie Lange
    Man, NYC is becoming a joke. This artistic project has already happened in many cities, including last week in Toronto, to rave reviews.

    Graffiti murals are already all over the city, including in many galleries that cater to rich whites like Bloomberg who can afford the high prices that you can't.



    Revoke all the permits you want, the illegal art will just get bigger and badder and theres nothing you can do about that.
    Is this nym9 with a new handle?

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