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    Just watched a movie on DVD last night that had some scenes shot on the Intrepid. National Treasure with Nicholas Cage. Pretty good movie.

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    July 6, 2006
    Intrepid Will Cross River for Refitting, Then Return to a Rebuilt Pier
    By PATRICK McGEEHAN


    A computer-generated rendering of the refurbished Intrepid and the rebuilt Pier 86. The Concorde is to be moved onto the pier, and after the carrier is patched and painted in New Jersey and Staten Island, hopes are to have it back by Fleet Week in May 2008.

    The aircraft carrier Intrepid, the military museum that has been docked on the Hudson River for 24 years, is scheduled to close on Oct. 1 and will be moved soon afterward to New Jersey for repairs and Staten Island for renovation.

    The final details are still subject to the nautical and political tides, but Bill White, the president of the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum, said yesterday that about a month after the museum closed, the carrier would be towed away from its mooring at Pier 86, West 46th Street and 12th Avenue, and is not expected to return for 18 months.

    The museum's directors approved the general plan last week after Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and the City Council agreed to provide a total of $17 million over the next two years for the overhaul of the carrier and the pier, Mr. White said. Gov. George E. Pataki pledged an additional $5 million in state economic development funds. In addition, $35.5 million in federal funds would raise the public financing for the project to $57.5 million, which should cover all the costs, he said.

    Governor Pataki and Council Speaker Christine C. Quinn are scheduled to hold a news conference about the overhaul plan aboard the carrier today.

    Arnold Fisher, a developer whose family has run the Intrepid Foundation for more than 20 years, said that without the money from the city and state, the Intrepid's future as a military museum was uncertain.

    "The ship goes back to the Navy if this didn't all come together," said Mr. Fisher, chairman of the private, nonprofit foundation.

    Ms. Quinn said, "My sense is that if the city hadn't stepped forward, that the Intrepid's days may very well have been numbered." She added, "To have lost the Intrepid now would have sent a terrible message to the men and women who are fighting overseas."

    Mr. Fisher said he would push hard for the pier to be rebuilt quickly so that the Intrepid can return for Fleet Week, the Navy's annual celebration here, in May 2008.

    While it is gone, New York City will be missing one of its more popular tourist attractions, the focal point for military celebrations and an emergency location for federal agencies in the event of a terrorist attack or natural disaster.

    Within hours of the Sept. 11 attacks, the F.B.I. asked for space on the carrier to house hundreds of its agents displaced from their offices downtown, Mr. White said. The museum remained closed for five weeks while the agents were there, he said.

    After Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast last summer, the Federal Emergency Management Agency asked to use the Intrepid in the event New York is hit by a hurricane or other disaster, Mr. White said. He said the Intrepid's executives have agreed to honor any such requests.

    "We're an auxiliary to them," Mr. White said. "We might not be the first place they go, but they know they can go here if necessary."

    Last fall, when the Intrepid's officials were planning a new design for Pier 86, they considered a plan with two levels, the lower one being available for law enforcement agencies in an emergency, Mr. White said. That plan was scrapped in favor of a plan for a single-deck pier with red and blue stripes on its top. A Concorde supersonic transport jet, which now sits on a barge on the opposite side of the pier from the Intrepid, will be placed on the end of the rebuilt pier, he said.

    Intrepid officials considered trying to repair the pier without moving the carrier, but they decided that doing that could take five years and cost $100 million, Mr. White said. In the current plan, the work on the pier is expected to cost $35 million, most of which would come from $31 million that was appropriated by Congress in late 2004 for the Hudson River Park Trust, a city-state authority that controls the pier. Another Congressional appropriation of $4.5 million to the museum is pending, he said.

    The 900-foot-long carrier, which has not moved since it arrived in 1982, will go first to a dry dock in Bayonne, N.J., for up to 60 days of patching, scraping and repainting of the hull, Mr. White said. From there, it will be towed to a pier on Staten Island, where, at the invitation of the mayor, it will stay rent-free until Pier 86 has been rebuilt, he said.

    The carrier will not be open to the public while it is away. Instead, the foundation will use the time to make some improvements, including installing a mezzanine in the main exhibit hall and creating space for the public to get to the anchor chain, whose links weigh 270 pounds each.

    Moving the 40,000-ton Intrepid will require six to eight tugboats with at least 5,000 horsepower each, Mr. White said. Getting the carrier out into the river will take about six hours and moving it gently to Bayonne four more, he said.

    Before it can be moved, the silt that has piled up around the hull on the river bottom must be dredged. Mr. White said he hoped to receive approval for the dredging from the Army Corps of Engineers within two weeks. Harbor officials also have to approve moving the carrier.

    The foundation's directors have their sights set on Veterans Day, Nov. 11, as the day to send the carrier down the river with fanfare, but the tides may not cooperate. Tide tables show that the river may be at its highest on the evening of Nov. 4, Mr. White said, making that the best time to try to dislodge the Intrepid.

    "If we can move it on another day, we're pretty confident we can make it the 11th," Mr. White said.

    Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

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    Here are other renderings...









    USS Intrepid Museum Master Plan
    New York, New York


    One of New York City's most visited attractions, the USS Intrepid Museum honors our veterans, educates the public and inspires young people from around the world. In 1943, the USS Intrepid aircraft carrier was commissioned for service in World War II and went on to serve as a primary recovery vessel for NASA and then in Vietnam. The museum features a range of interactive exhibits and events that make Intrepid a snapshot of heroism, education, and excitement. The Master Plan for the Intrepid and the adjoining Pier 86 will guide future development of the Intrepid Museum and its connection to the Hudson River Park.


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    Don't Miss the Boat!

    On October 1st, Intrepid goes 'on leave' as she closes for repair and renovation.
    But you still have one last week to say bon voyage.

    Our "Bon Voyage Bash" will make sure she goes out in style: interactive displays, educational demos, guided tours, music, prizes and fireworks! Together, we can make sure this great American hero and your family, share a weekend to remember.

    FINAL WEEKEND SEPT. 30TH & OCT. 1ST

    Saturday, September 30th - 10am-9pm
    Last ticket sold at 7:30pm
    Fireworks at 8pm
    11am – 4pm Pier 86 – 88th Army Band
    4pm – 7pm FDNY Band
    7pm – 8pm USO Metropolitan Troupe
    8pm Fireworks Show



    Sunday, October 1st - 10am-6pm
    Last ticket sold at 5pm
    Grand Prize drawing for Lucky Visitor at 11am
    Education Demos at 1pm, 2pm & 3pm

    Weekend events include:
    Interactive displays from US Marines, US Army, US Coast Guard, FDNY and others.
    Education demos * FREE guided tours * Music performances * Giveaways

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    Intrepid to close Oct. 1 for 18 months of renovations

    The Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum will close to the public starting October 1 and embark on 18 months of repairs to the aircraft carrier, its dock, decommissioned nuclear submarine and Concorde.

    On Veterans Day, November 11, it will be towed from Pier 86 -- its home for the past 24 years -- down the Hudson to Bayonne Dry Dock & Repair Corporation for the first phase of repairs.

    It's scheduled to return to Manhattan in time for Fleet Week 2008.

    The $55 million project will refurbish the ship, overhaul interior and exterior exhibits, and also allow for the purchase of more historic aircraft. Pier 86 will be demolished and replaced with a new pier better able to accommodate the museum's 770,000 annual visitors. Plans also call for the opening of the engine room and other technical parts of the ship that have been off-limits to tourists, according to Newsday ...

    The Intrepid is docked at Pier 86, located at 46th Street along the West Side Highway.

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    Saturday night was nice there. It rained a bit around when the fireworks started, made it more exciting getting up down the ladders, that is for sure! They were doing the take-yer-picture to rty and hawk it to you and the way out thing. My wife about flipped when the guy told her it was for security purposes, until I clued her in that he was pulling her leg. We told them we were Amish and it was against our religion to have our photo taken, he said they get that a lot, haha.

    In any case, I'm glad we got a chance to run out there before the big revamp, the kids had never been before. Plus, they behaved themselves halfway decently since they were tuckered out from an afternoon track meet before we went!

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    Wanted: Parking Spot in Manhattan, Size XXXXL



    The Concorde, part of the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum, has been on a barge on
    the West Side of Manhattan for two and a half years. But pier repairs are forcing it to move.


    By PATRICK McGEEHAN
    Published: September 30, 2006


    If you think finding a space to park a car in New York City is hard, try finding a spot for a 203-foot-long supersonic jet.

    That is the challenge facing the operators of the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum, who are searching for someplace to stow a Concorde for the next 18 months. Its owner, British Airways, would prefer a place in Manhattan where hordes of tourists and other potential customers will see it. Oh, and they would rather not pay any parking fee.

    The pointy-nosed jet has been perched on a barge on the West Side of Manhattan for the last two and a half years. But, like its neighbor, the Intrepid, an aircraft carrier that houses the museum, it must make way for repairs to a crumbling pier.

    The Intrepid, which has not budged from its berth in more than 25 years, will be closed to visitors after tomorrow because it is scheduled to be towed to Bayonne, N.J., in early November for an overhaul. After repairs, it will be towed to Staten Island until the pier is ready. But officials of British Airways, which lent the Concorde to the museum in 2004, want a more visible setting for the jet, which they consider a three-dimensional billboard for their business, said John Lampl, a spokesman for the airline.

    “Ideally, we’d want to keep it in Manhattan, in New York City, in some place that’s high in traffic on the tourism beat, so to speak,” Mr. Lampl said. But, he added, “It’s not something that you can just park in the middle of Fifth Avenue.”

    The plane made its last commercial run over the Atlantic Ocean in October 2003, pushed into early retirement by its voracious appetite for fuel and high cost of maintenance. It is one of just three on display in the United States, Mr. Lampl said. The others are at flight museums in Virginia and Seattle, he said. (This particular plane holds the record for the fastest commercial trip from New York to London, at just under 2 hours 53 minutes.)

    The airline’s demand sent Intrepid officials to the phones, dialing for sympathy and space, along the waterfront if possible. They have tried the South Street Seaport, various ferry and tourist-boat operators, even the New York Hall of Science in Queens, all to no avail.

    “It would be a nice little draw for a little while,” said Jeff Remling, director of operations at the South Street Seaport Museum. But, he said, “We just can’t physically get it in here.”

    Besides, Mr. Remling added, a late-20th-century plane would not exactly fit with his museum’s 19th-century maritime theme.

    The Hall of Science has a collection of rockets on display but even if it did have enough room for a jet with a wingspan of almost 84 feet, there would be the problem of getting the 80-ton Concorde off the barge, onto a flatbed and through the underpasses of the Grand Central Parkway.

    “The Concorde’s just enormous,” said Marilyn Hoyt, the hall’s president. “They need an absolutely enormous space and they need it consistently through these years. So we’re not going to be their site, although we would have loved to have the Concorde here.”

    Bill White, the president of the Intrepid museum, estimated that the museum will incur a deficit of about $4.5 million from the time it closes tomorrow evening until it reopens back at Pier 86 on the West Side in the spring of 2008.

    It cannot afford to pay much to relocate the Concorde in the interim and, he said, he would prefer to sell the barge the jet sits on as soon as possible.

    He characterized the odds of finding a temporary home in Manhattan as “slim” but like a New York driver circling the block for the fourth time, he held out hope that a parking space would present itself.

    “I think we’re going to find a home for it and I hope it’s one of prominence,” he said.


    Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

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    Gothamist
    October 27, 2006

    Intrepid's Last Adventure (For Now)

    Posted by Jen Chung



    Ooh - the Daily News reports that the Intrepid is auctioning off a special day for six guests to be on the aircraft carrier when it leaves its Manhattan dock and goes somewhere (more on that later) on November 6. It's a crazy trip that includes breakfast with Senator Clinton, former mayors Ed Koch and David Dinkins and other dignitaries and taking a helicopter ride off the deck when it passes the Statue of Liberty! They'll meet different veterans who served on the Intrepid and get a gift bag of wood from the flight deck and Intrepid apparel.

    The catch? The minimum bid for the six-person experience is $100,000. Yikes! But here's the eBay listing.

    As for where the Intrepid will be docked while it's repaired is now unknown. It turns out the pier in Bayonne where the Intrepid was supposed to go has crumbled. All we're going to say is that it's better they found out now before taking the 27,000 ton carrier there.

    Photograph of the Conorde at the Intrepid from merlinsclaw on Flickr

    2003-2006 Gothamist LLC.

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    Does anyone know exactly what Nov 6th holds in store with regard to the towing?

    I've been thinking about heading over to the West side to try to get a few pictures of the goings on, but I don't know what time the actual towing will get underway.

    Couldn't find any relevant info on intrepidmuseum.org.

    TIA.

    Tipsy

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    I read somewhere that the plan is that the first move will take place at ~ 9 AM.

    The move is based on high tide: http://www.saltwatertides.com/cgi-local/newyork.cgi ...

    Tides for Edgewater, N.J. starting with November 6, 2006.

    On November 6 the High Tide at Edgewater is at 8:40 AM

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    From the World Ship Society, Port of New York Branch:

    On Monday November 6th, McAllister Towing will shift the 920-foot aircraft carrier USS Intrepid from Pier 86, North River to Bayonne, NJ. Prior to getting under way, a ceremony will feature several dignitaries such as Senator Hillary Clinton and former NYC mayors David Dinkins and Ed Koch. Depending on tide and weather, the operation may consist of up to five McAllister tugs. At approximately 11a.m. the Intrepid should pass the World Trade Center site where a 100-ft. American flag will be unfurled from the flight deck. Following that will be a tribute opposite the Statue of Liberty accompanied by former crew members who served aboard the USS Intrepid during WWII. The USS Intrepid has been stationed at Pier 86 for 23 years, and for the next two years, it is scheduled to undergo major renovations while its pier has a complete rebuild.
    http://www.worldshipny.com/

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    Propellers stuck in mud when Intrepid was pulled partially out of her slip beside Pier 86; relocation delayed to another day.
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    CNN
    November 6, 2006

    BREAKING NEWS: The Coast Guard says it is stopping efforts to move the USS Intrepid because the ship is stuck in the mud.

    © 2006 Cable News Network LP, LLLP.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227681,00.html

    NEW YORK — After 24 years at the same Hudson River pier, the legendary aircraft carrier USS Intrepid was inched out of its berth by powerful tugboats on Monday — but it never got under sail because it got stuck in the mud as the tide went down.

    The mission was scrubbed for the day at around 10:30 a.m., according to Dan Bender, a Coast Guard spokesman.

    The Intrepid's giant propellers got stuck in the mud as the tugboats strained to move the behemoth. It eventually began inching backward out of its berth — but moved only a few feet.

    "We knew it was not going to come out like a cruise ship," said Matt Woods, the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum's vice president for operations.

    Under clear blue skies, the tugboats, one tooting its horn, began guiding the massive vessel after crew members tossed a line, symbolically detaching the ship.

    Helicopters flew overhead; New York Police Department blue-and-white power boats, two Fire Department boats and a Coast Guard cutter were on hand to accompany the aircraft carrier — which has no engines of its own.

    A daylong journey had been planned across the river to New Jersey for $60 million in restorations and repairs.

    Elected officials and dozens of former crew members had attended the sendoff ceremony

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    I went to Pier 84 around 8:30 -- caught all the speeches by Zach Foster, Schumer, Koch, Dinkins, Hillary, etc.

    Then around 9:15 we all moved down to the end of the pier to watch the Intrepid slide out to sea ...

    One Huge Tug with a chain lashed onto the Intrepid pulled ... after 5 minutes or so she had moved about 1 foot.

    A couple of more tugs tossed out some lines and lashed on .. another few feet.

    A big Fire boat hooked up to the Huge Tug -- both tried pulling the Intrepid. Another couple of feet ...

    A couple more tugs lashed onto the Fire boat / Huge Tug and pulled and pulled and pulled ...

    Nothing.

    By then it was coming up on 11 AM. Three of the smaller tugs undid their lines and headed back down the Hudson.

    No announcement, but it was clear the mission had NOT been accomplished.

    On my way out I talked with a guy wearing an Intrepid Museum shirt. his off the record comment was that the powers that be knew this would happen. But all the pols wanted the photo op before the election tomorrow. It was pre-planned to try again at next high tide in early December.

    Wonder how much this little bit of theater cost NYC tax payers (lots of cops and firemen all around)?

    Some of the boats ...

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