Cleanup
I got a letter last week from River Place Mgmt talking about the brownfield clean up next door at the River Place II lot. It said after examination and so forth, that the site, cleaned and overseen by ConEd and River Place Holdings was about to be approved by the city as 'clean'. I hadn't realized before that this was still going on -- I skipped over the fact that some verification of the clean-up may be done (and evidently was done after this project in particular).
Hopefully this will clear the way for either RPII or whatever to go forward.
Update...new dirt
So, to continue my stalking of the hole next to my building....
There has been actual activity at the pit lately, with a few bull dozers and such moving a new layer of dirt over the site. They said something about having to do this in the Brownfield Cleanup letter I mentioned previously.
I swear, if they don't start construction soon, I'm going to go insane.
Crane
I was walking past the site last night and there was a new crane appearing over the top of the fence. Maybe something is really going to start here, fianlly.
Finally some news.
Here's an excerpt from a Daily News article that was talking about the Atelier across the street:
On the corner of 11th Ave., World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein has dug up and removed 41,000 cubic yards of contaminated soil. His cleanup project should be done next month, said Lori O'Connell, a state Department of Environmental Conservation spokeswoman.
In December, he'll start foundation work for 57-story twin towers with a total of 1,350 rental apartments, said his spokesman Bud Perrone. They'll be completed in 2009.
Some new pilings are being driven into the center of the site, which would back-up that foundation work will begin in just over a month. Currently its just one line about 15 feet from the south wall.
Is this the latest DOB permit?
So it has shrunk a bit?
I think it may be 6-7 stories shorter...just going off prior posts, info, etc. I attached some pictures of the new piling walls going in, if you look, you can make out the darker edge of the tops of the new, inner/deeper wall. Not the most amazing pictures, but this is what you get trying to zoom through a hole in the privacy canvas while rushing to work...
Id876: I take it you live in River Place 1 --
Any idea what's up with the long-empty retail area at the West St. side of the building?
(IMO they should tear it out and rethink the design of that entire part of the building)
Yep, I am in River Pl. I. Since we are so far west...pondering the fate of the hole is what we do most in the building.
They had a second deli-type place in the retail section to the east of the dry cleaners, but that only lasted 5-6 months. As for the huge retail area...it's been sitting there for the three years I've lived there and I've heard nothing about it that whole time. One possibility is that with the opening of the pier across the street a few weeks back, and with the new buildings (once built), the foot traffic in the area could lead to that space being utilized.
As it is now, I can only see a car dealership working well there. With some major changes, a whole foods would be a great addition. Food Emporium on 10th/42 is just far enough away to be annoying, and too expensive to justify not using Fresh Direct.
Units on or coming to the area on w42/11th ave:
RPI: 921
RPII: 882
River Bank West: 418
Atelier: 478
Moinian Phase II: 950 (from the last it was reported anyway)
That gives just that 42nd street strip 3649 units, not too shabby, and could probably support a real supermarket.
Nah, the NB Permit is old. The 522 foot number is from when it was a single 53 story tower. The newer foundation permits show some updated figures, it's now 59 stories and contains 1266 unitsOriginally Posted by antinimby
Last edited by Derek2k3; November 3rd, 2006 at 05:39 PM.
How'd they do that?
That's almost doubling the buildable space.
In New York, proposals usually shrink over time, not get larger.
The previous design was before the West Side rezoning. These twin 59 story buildings will look huge from the waterfront, just wish they weren't so generic. Silverstein could've built something quite spectacular since he bought the entire block dirt cheap.
LARRY'S NEW PLAN
SILVERSTEIN PLOTS WEST SIDE TOWERS
November 8, 2006
LARRY Silverstein will soon be developing another set of twin towers.
This time, however, the project, worth nearly $1 billion, will not rise from the World Trade Center site downtown but instead farther north at his River Place site between 41st and 42nd streets near the Javits Convention Center.
Located exactly at 600 W. 42nd St., Silverstein's $917.6 million project will involve constructing a common base that will serve as the foundation for two 57-story towers.
Inside will be 1,157 residential units, 18,277 feet of commercial space and a 194-car underground garage.
A Silverstein spokesperson declined to comment.
Silverstein is applying to use $656 million in Multi-Family Housing Revenue Bonds from the New York State Housing Finance Agency in return for offering 20 percent of the housing units to lower income families.
His daughter, Lisa Silverstein, has been overseeing this development for many years.
A snaking tower with Hudson River and city views was previously planned for the most westerly portion of the site, but development got held up by Gov. George Pataki, who was leaning on Silverstein to make the land the site of an official Javits Center hotel.
Condemnation plans for a sky bridge over 41st Street that was to connect to a new hotel to an expanded Javits Center had begun but weren't finished in part because the additional expansion of the convention center has run into roadblocks.
Chief among them is figuring out where to relocate an MTA bus garage that currently takes up the block between 40th and 41st street.
Copyright 2006NYP Holdings, Inc.
Nearly one billion dollars! It's unreal how expensive it is to build in this city....and these are just a couple of boxes.
These are going to have some presence on the West Side...The Orion looks huge and it's on 9th.
And let's not forget the real return the city will see once this sucker is built: the obstruction of that damn Zebra Building from the Hudson river!
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