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Thread: The Epic - 125 West 31st Street - Rental - by FX Fowle / SLCE

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    Me too.
    Fox & Fowle do good solid work.
    I think it is a rental not condo.

    Where is it you asked? Well, the ESB is at 5th & 34th, this one is bet. 6th & 7th on 32nd/31st St., so you do the math.

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    It's up to about ten floors. The tower sits between the streets in the center area of the block.

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    Alright Stern you took some on the North part, I too some of the South part... Here some pics I took on February 6, 2006:





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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    Alright Stern you took some on the North part, I too some of the South part... Here some pics I took on February 6, 2006:
    Pic 1 is from the south, pic 2 from the north.

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    I see exposed floor plates. Hopefully it does not look as bad as 325 fifth

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    went by the site today after work.
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    Wonder what will come of that raw brick wall on the building next door to the east?

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    I have a bad feeling about this building

    The glass looks pretty crappy, the exposed floor plates are always a bad sign, and I'm worrying that that raw concrete wall is going to be left that way.

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    It might end up looking like that apartment tower with the Loews Cinema that went up on 34th just west of 8th Ave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    It might end up looking like that apartment tower with the Loews Cinema that went up on 34th just west of 8th Ave.
    Wow, you stole the words from right under me. Why do developers feel that the residents want to stare at an ugly side-wall? Sorta defeats the purpous of floor to ceiling glass windows. This building is very dissapointing in these regards. Is this a by product of FAR? And if so, how can something like this be over turned so as to prevent the city from becoming a series of jagged edges and ugly walls that were never intended on being seen?

    New York streets have a wonderful street wall, why currently are new projects so intent on destroying that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokevin
    Wow, you stole the words from right under me. Why do developers feel that the residents want to stare at an ugly side-wall? Sorta defeats the purpous of floor to ceiling glass windows. This building is very dissapointing in these regards. Is this a by product of FAR? And if so, how can something like this be over turned so as to prevent the city from becoming a series of jagged edges and ugly walls that were never intended on being seen?

    New York streets have a wonderful street wall, why currently are new projects so intent on destroying that?

    Ugly-side walls have nothing to do with FAR, FAR deals with build-outs.

    Maybe your thinking of zoning, but even so I can't think of an instance where zoning would create an ugly-side wall.

    The main culprit is economics and architects who place elevator shafts to the side of the building, usually because of economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stern
    Ugly-side walls have nothing to do with FAR, FAR deals with build-outs.

    Maybe your thinking of zoning, but even so I can't think of an instance where zoning would create an ugly-side wall.

    The main culprit is economics and architects who place elevator shafts to the side of the building, usually because of economics.
    If you are talking about the formed concrete wall, it's a shear wall. It's structural. To stiffen tall concrete buildings like this you have to have continuous solid walls in certain places. The ends of buildings are naturals. sometimes it's done at the interior such as at Trump World Tower(see plan).



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