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    Does anyone have a pic of the BROOKLYN skyline? I cant seem to find one. :?

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    JMGarcia took a good one more than a year and a half ago, and though missing the significant new construction since then, it it the best angle I've seen. - main image

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    I continue to salivate at the thought of the NEW Downtown, along with Atlantic Yards and the Williamsburg/GP waterfront (and LIC). What a sight that should be in the somewhat near future. I just want some concrete plans instead of "chatter."

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    "Somewhat in the near future" I hope so! But honestly, I bet it will be a LONNNGG time. BTW, Thanks for the pics everyone! BK has a great skyline! (Dosnt get enough credit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILUVNYC
    "Somewhat in the near future" I hope so! But honestly, I bet it will be a LONNNGG time. BTW, Thanks for the pics everyone! BK has a great skyline! (Dosnt get enough credit)
    Agreed. If Brooklyn were anywhere else in the U.S., it would be a fairly recognizable skyline. It's just overshadowed so much by Manhattan.

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    Check out this panorama from Greenpoint's waterfront. You can roll over individual buildings in Manhattan and find info on them also.
    Last edited by Derek2k3; March 5th, 2005 at 02:34 AM.

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    B'klyn waterfront off the back burner
    Council moving toward rezoning vote

    Published on April 25, 2005

    Real estate developers may soon be able to begin building on a long-abandoned two-mile stretch of prime Brooklyn waterfront.

    The City Council is slated to vote by May 18 on whether to convert 175 blocks in Greenpoint and Williamsburg, now zoned for industrial activity, into a mixed-use area for housing, parks, open space and some commercial use. Two council panels--the Land Use Committee and its Zoning & Franchises Subcommittee--will first take up the plan on May 3.

    The New York City Planning Commission has been working with the mayor's office for several years to find a way to make better use of the neighborhoods, which have seen a precipitous decline in industrial activity. While an influx of artists and young professionals has driven up real estate values, much of the area near the East River remains undeveloped.

    A key issue in the rezoning is affordable housing. The proposal targets roughly 23% of the planned 10,000 units for lower-income families. The Planning Commission, which argues that it's striking a balance between the demands of developers and housing advocates, believes the plan will pass muster.

    "We think there will be a consensus," says Amanda Burden, chair of the Planning Commission. "If we don't do this, these 100 acres will fall prey to noxious uses, like power plants or waste transfer stations."

    City officials, taking an approach similar to the one used to rezone Hudson Yards in Manhattan, are not imposing minimum levels of affordable housing. Instead, the Greenpoint-Williamsburg plan gives developers a financial incentive--the option to build more market-rate units if they build lower-priced housing.

    For example, developers that offer 15% to 25% of their units at below-market rates will be allowed to build up to 4.7 times the area they purchased. But if they don't create affordable housing, they can only develop projects at a floor-area ratio of 4.

    Private real estate interests have signed on. Park Tower Group has purchased 19 acres, the largest chunk of the rezoning area, and intends to include affordable housing.

    "Based on the existing proposal, we hope to build a total of a 4.7 (floor-area ratio)," says Elizabeth Counihan, executive vice president of Park Tower, which has developed many Class-A office buildings in Manhattan. "This is a fabulous opportunity to create a piece of an existing neighborhood."

    Park Tower plans to build 4,000 units over 10 years, with some becoming available as early as January 2008, Ms. Counihan says.

    Not everyone is enthusiastic about the plan. Neil Sheehan, a housing advocate in Williamsburg, says the plan's voluntary mandate to build affordable housing makes it unlikely that developers will actually do so.

    "There's not enough incentive in any way, shape or form for developers to decide to build affordable housing," he says.

    --Anita Jain


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    Glad to hear Park Tower Group is active again, I really like their stuff, George Klein is one of those developers who believes in signing big name architects as part of the overall design program.

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    As always its not sensible to get your hopes up, too much.

    New York Daily News:

    Plan would stop plant by rezone

    Not so fast, critics say


    On the eve of a pivotal City Council vote on the future of Williamsburg and Greenpoint, a developer warned that an unpopular power plant will rise if rezoning is voted down.

    "There's a huge risk" that the proposed TransGas power plant project on Kent Ave. and N. 12th St. will go forward should Council members reject the rezoning plan for the waterfront neighborhoods, said Adam Perlmutter, a lawyer speaking for developer George Klein.

    Klein was one of dozens of interests jockeying for a say in the sweeping plan to rezone 175 blocks of Williamsburg and Greenpoint before the City Council Land Use Committee votes on it Monday.

    "We've gotten just hundreds of calls and letters from so many people, advocacy groups and developers," said Councilwoman Melinda Katz (D-Forest Hills), chairwoman of the Land Use Committee. "It's high pressure; this is a huge rezoning."

    But those fighting for neighborhood concerns such as affordable housing, park space, manufacturing jobs and limited building heights - issues at odds with the interests of real estate developers - disagreed with the lawyer.

    "I don't think that he's being realistic," said Councilman David Yassky (D-Brooklyn Heights). "If we don't get the waterfront rezoning right this time, we'll do it right next time."

    "No matter how you look at it, it's a bad argument. I sort of question his motives," said Peter Gillespie of Neighbors Against Garbage, a group that opposes the TransGas bid.

    Klein's company, the Park Tower Group, is in contract for a 19-acre property in Greenpoint and stands to benefit enormously if the city changes zoning from manufacturing to residential.

    His property is the biggest of several that will be developed with condo apartments if the rezoning measure passes. The 4,000 apartments the Park Tower Group intends to build are a large chunk of the total 10,000 apartments anticipated in the rezoning.

    Meanwhile, heated talks between Council members and city leaders hammering out the final form of the proposed plan are expected to last through Sunday night, sources said.

    Any plan approved by the committee is likely to pass the full Council, which is scheduled to vote on the plan Tuesday.

    Hot-button issues such as how much affordable housing the plan will include have threatened to derail negotiations between the Bloomberg administration and the Council.

    The administration's proposal calls for 23% of all the apartments built to be reserved for low- to moderate-income residents, while community advocates demand a heftier 40%.

    "We know there's going to be compromises in the plan, but will they be acceptable to the community?" asked Beka Economopoulos, a Williamsburg advocate who is planning a rally at City Hall on Monday.

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    April 2005

    Waterfront projects may put green in Greenpoint

    By Dorn Townsend

    On a recent sunny weekend afternoon, a small group of bed-headed twenty-somethings waited for a table outside the Greenpoint Coffee House on Franklin Avenue. New arrivals in what used to be the most overlooked and run-down section of the neighborhood, they pointed out some of the new bars and galleries and said they were comforted by the area's budding chic.

    "The hardest thing about living in this neighborhood is getting to Manhattan for work," said Eric Marshall, a 29-year-old graphic artist. "But our remoteness works both ways; it means that it's also hard for people to get here, so maybe this area won't go crazy with development like other parts of Brooklyn."

    But had this group heard about the proposed rezoning of the adjacent waterfront?

    "I hear they're still fighting that one out in court, so it probably won't start for a few years," said Marshall.

    Marshall and his friends are part of a continuing influx of new, young residents who have brought this Polish enclave a smattering of bright ethnic restaurants, bars playing alternative rock, and sharply rising rental costs. Last month, the city planning commission approved a plan to rezone a huge swath of the Williamsburg- Greenpoint waterfront, ushering in a transformative new era of development that will affect the neighborhood's last frontier. The plans have been sent to the City Council for review, the final step in the city's formal, seven-month public review process known as the Uniform Land Use Review Procedure. The Council is expected to hold hearings this month.

    Plans include a two-mile-long pedestrian esplanade to replace chain-link fences now blocking access to the waterfront. Studded along that landscaped ribbon, 20 condominiums of varying heights will be built. Plans also exist for several playgrounds, retail space at the base of those condos, and water taxi service linking Greenpoint with Midtown.

    "The whole landscape of Greenpoint will change," said Tom Le, a Fillmore broker. "This is a very exciting time, and the waterfront development will impact the whole market."

    No definitive plans exist, but brokers anticipate that over the next decade between 3,000 and 8,000 new units will be built along the waterfront in Greenpoint. All of this construction will occur in what is now the most desolate pocket of the neighborhood.

    Brokers say that the waterfront construction will greatly accelerate developments already changing that no-man's land. In the last two years, several new cafes, bars, galleries, and yoga studios opened along Franklin Avenue, the main artery of that sliver of Greenpoint. Despite the lack of convenient public transit to Manhattan, brokers say that many of their young walk-in clients are looking to rent space in that area.

    "The same thing that happened along Bedford 10 years ago is happening along Franklin Avenue right now," said Rosemarie Pawlikowski, a real estate agent for Albero Parkside Realty. "Young people and artists have begun turning those warehouses into loft spaces. That part of Greenpoint is becoming the new Williamsburg."

    It is unclear just how much waterfront development will change Greenpoint's real estate market. According to Fillmore, the cost of one- and two-family houses has already risen by 25 percent to 38 percent, depending on whether the home is built with brick or wood.

    Rental prices, however, have stabilized. Several years ago the average monthly cost of a one-bedroom apartment was about $1,400, but these days, brokers agree similar apartments are going for $1,200.

    "Greenpoint is a very stable neighborhood and the biggest problem has always been the lack of transit directly to Manhattan," said Le. "But what's about to happen to this neighborhood is going to change the whole landscape."

    Copyright © 2003-2005 The Real Deal.

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    I think the 2 mile stretch of pedestrian waterfront will be extraordinary for the nieghborhood...sort of like the Promenade for Brooklyn Heights. I hope that this passes soon!

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    Plan to Transform Brooklyn Waterfront Advances at City Hall

    Published: May 2, 2005

    City officials reached agreement today on a plan that would transform the decaying north Brooklyn waterfront, with its relics of Brooklyn's industrial past, into a neighborhood of soaring residential towers with a parklike esplanade along the East River.

    The plan, which rivals the ambition and scope of the creation of Battery Park City, would rezone a 175-block area of Greenpoint and Williamsburg, two neighborhoods that have surged in popularity because of the proximity to Manhattan but whose development has been curtailed because much of it is now restricted to industrial use.

    The rezoning, unanimously approved by a pivotal City Council committee, would transform a long-crumbling waterfront into a vibrant residential neighborhood complete with 40-story luxury apartment buildings, restaurants, shops and manicured recreation areas. As envisioned by city planners, the rezoning will remake a largely flat skyline within eyeshot of Midtown Manhattan while also protecting a neighborhood that has long been considered a repository for unpopular projects like power plants, waste transfer stations and pornography shops.

    And the plan would help realize decadeslong efforts to capitalize on one of New York's most underutilized assets: miles of neglected waterfront.

    "This rezoning will ensure that the reuse of this priceless but long derelict waterfront will be for the purposes of housing and recreation and not for such inappropriate uses as waste transfer stations and power plants," Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg told reporters at a late afternoon news conference.

    The plan, which is expected to be formally approved by the full City Council next week, imposes some novel requirements for developers seeking to build the housing.

    In order to build to the maximum height of roughly 30 or 40 stories, they must keep up to one-third of the homes affordable to low- and middle-class New Yorkers, making it among the most aggressive such programs in the nation, city officials say. And the developers must build the waterfront esplanade, which will eventually be turned over for management to the city's Parks Department.

    Copyright New York Times 2005

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    So anyone knows the difference between the 'pivotal City Council committee' and 'the full City Council committee'?

    Either way, it is so cool that this rezoning was approved!

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    Mike makes housing deal

    Mayor Bloomberg's plan to revitalize the Brooklyn waterfront took a giant leap forward yesterday when a last-minute deal was struck to reserve 33% of all new apartments for low- and moderate-income residents.

    Tense talks between Bloomberg officials and City Council members ended just minutes before a Council committee approved the plan to create nearly 11,000 new apartments in Williamsburg and Greenpoint over the next decade.

    "It's the largest commitment to affordable housing creation for low- and moderate-income households the city has ever made in such a rezoning plan," Bloomberg boasted.

    The plan, which requires $130 million from the city, calls for towers of up to 40 stories with stunning river views. The deal will also create 54 acres of new public parks, including a 2-mile-long East River promenade.

    The mayor said the plan - expected to pass a full Council vote on May 11 - was a "substantial improvement" over earlier versions that included 23% affordable housing.

    Most of the estimated 3,548 affordable flats will be for families of four making less than $50,250.

    Hugh Son

    Originally published on May 2, 2005

    All contents © 2005 Daily News, L.P.

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