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    These "developers" are the Taliban. How can 18th Century buildings not be landmarked?

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    How can all the city's 18th century federal houses not be landmarked? It's not like there's an abundance of them left. Even when taking into consideration the amount of alterations many have undergone, they all deserve to be saved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merry View Post
    The only real silver lining here is that the west side of the street is protected by the Special Little Italy District. Building heights in this neighborhood (east side of Bowery) are limited to eighty-five feet.
    Not a silver lining at all. Rather than redeveloping 2 or 3 of the structures to build a 12+ story, 75,000 sf building and giving the Federal era houses a chance at preservation, the developer will surely level all five structures to fit all 75,000 sf within the 8-story height limit. Don't even get me started on the 100'+ of banal glass storefronts (if we're lucky) that will come with it.
    Last edited by Derek2k3; November 1st, 2014 at 04:48 PM.

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    I think these historic structures are exquisite works of architecture that add much to the quality of life in the city regarding the infrastructure and built environment in which we all live.

    That being said, I must explain (as I have many times before) the concept of a 'structurally obsolete' building: another words - the building is literally collapsing under its own weight. In these buildings the mortar between the bricks have turned to a sand like consistency that can be scraped away with your fingers, the floor beams and interior load bearing supports are made of rotting wood, brittle and rusting iron; all coated in thick plaster that is cracking and falling apart at the slightest touch. The electrical wiring and plumbing are outdated, and literally disintegrating. Added to all that is the fact that the interior spaces and window sized do not meet the functional needs of modern day living requirements; so even if we could magically remove all those ravages of time, the buildings still would not be deemed useful or adequate for current habitation requirements.

    Then of course there is the 'development' potential which most believe is the ONLY reason these structures are being demolished: but that is simply not the case - for all of the 'structurally obsolete' reasons I have mentioned about regarding the structural and functions aspects of the lovely looking historic structures.

    Hey, but we certainly have a right to lament the loss, regardless what the practical or financial issues: particularly on an internets forum which is a great place for voicing what we all would 'like to be' as opposed to what is 'likely to be' given the current circumstances in the development of our city's infrastructure.

    Please pardon me if I choose not to debate these observations with any following objections or insults....


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    Sorry, but where do you get this inside info that these particular buildings are falling apart in the manner in which you describe?

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    Just being old doesn't mean they have any historical significance. There are lots of old buildings in NYC that need to be replaced.

    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    These "developers" are the Taliban. How can 18th Century buildings not be landmarked?

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    More lovely old buildings undoubtedly to disappear from the Bowery and another chink in its rapidly disappearing character.

    Gordon Lau Buys Four Lower East Side Buildings for $50M

    February 14, 2015, by Rowley Amato

    The property at 149 Bowery

    Developer Gordon Lau of Lau Management has just purchased four buildings on the Lower East Side for $50 million, The Real Deal reports. According to records filed with the city on Friday, two of the four properties are located at 116 Elizabeth Street, and 132, 145 and 149 Bowery. Sold by Carl Herman Realty Corp. for $25 million, 116 Elizabeth and 132 Bowery are five- and three-story commercial properties located adjacent to each other at the rear. While 145 and 149 Bowery are both neighboring, five-story, mixed-use properties, sold by Fuss and Lieberman Realty Corp. for $25 million.

    Gordon Lau is probably best remembered for evicting the artist group, Collective Hardware, from his property at 169 Bowery and subsequently adding a giant "rooftop tumor" to the structure. No word yet on what he plans to do with his new holdings.

    · Gordon Lau picks up LES buildings for $50M [TRD]

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    How sad.

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