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    the two are now buying a NoHo parking lot on Bond Street between Houston and Lafayette, where they plan to build townhouses.
    Well this is kind of dumb. This is an area that needs bigger buildings with alot of units hence they can make more money IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    the two are now buying a NoHo parking lot on Bond Street between Houston and Lafayette, where they plan to build townhouses.
    Well this is kind of dumb. This is an area that needs bigger buildings with alot of units hence they can make more money IMO.
    Townhouses ARE a stupid idea. Townhouses in my opinion shouldnt be built anywhere in Manhattan or Brooklyn.

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    Honestly, how much of Manhattan and Brooklyn have you seen? There are plenty of residential areas perfect for townhouses. We don't live in Bladerunner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schadenfrau
    Honestly, how much of Manhattan and Brooklyn have you seen? There are plenty of residential areas perfect for townhouses. We don't live in Bladerunner.
    Ive seen alot of Manhattan and a good part of BK. I just think that there are other kinds of residential buildings that benefit a city better. Its just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    the two are now buying a NoHo parking lot on Bond Street between Houston and Lafayette, where they plan to build townhouses.
    Well this is kind of dumb. This is an area that needs bigger buildings with alot of units hence they can make more money IMO.

    Maybe the site isn't zoned for a larger building. The area is already overcrowded anyway and can not support many high-rises. Every area in Manhattan does not need to be developed with homogenous residential skyscrapers. I find the diversity and range of scales of buildings one of the most interesting things about NYC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILUVNYC
    Quote Originally Posted by Schadenfrau
    Honestly, how much of Manhattan and Brooklyn have you seen? There are plenty of residential areas perfect for townhouses. We don't live in Bladerunner.
    Ive seen alot of Manhattan and a good part of BK. I just think that there are other kinds of residential buildings that benefit a city better. Its just my opinion.
    All of the best areas of BK are brownstones and frame houses. I really think you haven't gotten too far past midtown. The village is one of the greatest areas in America...pretty much all brownstones and brick rowhouses. Once again, diverse architecture and housing stock is what makes and will continue to make NYC a great place, for everyone.

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    Here is a picture of the building now going up at bowery and 3rd:

    http://www.scaranoarchitects.com/4east-3rd-detail.swf

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    Here are some construction photos of current projects on the Bowery. Seems like they all face directly into the sun:

    Chrystie Place construction has begun:




    Bowery Tower - Bowery and E. 3rd St.




    Not sure what this is, but the address is at or near 195 Bowery:


    The completed Bond St. lofts:


    Cooper Square is rising quickly.
    Shapley frame:


    A presence in Cooper Square:


    Filling in the street wall:


    Lafayette Street side:

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    :P Wow thanks for the construction update photos...The Bowery seems to be the next happening nieighborhood in the city.

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    July 25, 2004

    NEW YORK AT WORK

    The City's Other Restaurant Row

    By JEFF VANDAM


    For Anton Bari, left, with family members (and the lively restaurant adornments they sell), the future of their distric is uncertain.

    THE flower district, in Chelsea, is shrinking. The barber school district, in the East Village, disappeared years ago. And the Swamp, a collection of leather distributors near the Brooklyn Bridge, was washed out in the 1960's.

    But down on the Bowery, the curious New York tradition of the single-business district remains alive. Jewelry is sold in generous quantities. There is perhaps no greater collection of lighting distributors. And as the Bowery edges north past Kenmare Street, lights and lamps give way to an almost perfectly unbroken string of restaurant supply stores, dozens of them stretching all the way to Houston Street.

    For more than 50 years, the Bowery's restaurant suppliers have peddled Sno-Kone makers, hot fudge dispensers, fish poachers, cannoli tubes, oven mitts, popcorn poppers and all other manner of food-related hardware to the nearly 12,000 restaurants of this city. Even as the real estate maelstroms of SoHo and the Lower East Side spin violently a few blocks away, these peddlers of panini pressers have stayed put.

    Until now, at least. As the decade reaches its midpoint, the Bowery, formerly host to its fabled bums and the dark expanse of an elevated train platform, has become chic. A museum of contemporary art will soon begin construction on the strip's last parking lot. A large real estate development called Avalon Chrystie Place is under construction at the corner of Bowery and Houston. And down among the restaurant suppliers, actual restaurants have begun to open their doors.

    Watching all of these developments carefully is the family that owns Bari Restaurant and Pizzeria Equipment, a business that takes up 10 storefronts at Prince Street and the Bowery. As owners of one of the district's oldest shops, the Baris seem to know what's coming.

    "I'm trying to envision it five, ten years from now," said Anton Bari as he sat on one of the restaurant chairs offered for sale in the Bari Gallery, one of the family's many enterprises. "I don't see the restaurant suppliers. I don't know if the reputation will still be here."

    Mr. Bari, his brothers Mike and Nick and a cousin also named Nick run a company established in the 1940's by their grandfather, Nicola Bari, a radio repairman and purveyor of cheese graters. Besides selling an encyclopedic variety of restaurant supplies, the Baris manufacture pizza ovens and refrigeration units that are used in kitchens from Brooklyn to Russia.

    On occasion, the Bari brothers are greeted by acquaintances who encourage them to turn their shops into trendy bars. But unlike many other suppliers on the Bowery, the Baris don't rent their stores - they own them. They can sit back and watch the changes on the street without the pressure of a landlord or a lease.

    Across from the Baris' main showroom at 240 Bowery, the family owns another building, but this one is not all mixers and ovens. Through a set of red doors marked "No Loitering" and up the stairs, an entirely different Bowery staple is still in operation.

    "I can't stand the stink in here," said Mike Bari, squinting his eyes and turning toward the exit. He was standing in the hallway of the Sunshine Hotel, an S.R.O. above one of the Baris' warehouse units that the family inherited when it bought the building 15 years ago.

    Once home to 200 residents, the hotel now houses just 40, with each man paying (or not paying) about $10 a day for the privilege of inhabiting one of its cell-like rooms. In the lobby, where a clerk collects rent and a painting of the main characters from "The Sopranos" hangs on the wall, the Baris greet nearly every resident with a warm familiarity.

    "We're not looking to throw anybody out," said Anton Bari, when asked why he doesn't simply convert the Sunshine into $4,000-a-month apartments. "If they had to leave here, they'd be lost."

    Recently, the exterior of the hotel was fitted with a large yellow tube running from the entrance to an open second-floor window. But the tube isn't part of a construction project. Julianne Swartz, an artist, fitted it with mirrors so that people on the street may look at and talk to Sunshine Hotel residents.

    If the hotel represents the old Bowery, the tube signals the emerging one. It is part of an outdoor exhibition on Bowery life by the New Museum of Contemporary Art, which plans to open its new home, a 160-foot-tall building resembling a stack of white boxes, next to the hotel in 2006. Construction on the museum site will begin later this year.

    Though the Baris support improvement of the neighborhood, eliminating a parking lot, the last one around, to make way for the museum troubles them. The lot is a worry-free place for customers to leave their cars and trucks as they shop for supplies, and once construction begins, shoppers will have to contend with strict meter readers in street spots.

    "There's that spoon or spatula that they won't grab because they're worried about that $150 parking ticket," Anton Bari said. "At the end of the year, you've lost a little business."

    Among the new ventures opening on the Bowery is Blvd, a Latin-Asian restaurant a block away from the Sunshine Hotel that serves entrees like lobster ravioli with salsa water for $22.

    The restaurant, equipped with multiple plasma-screen TV's and low-slung leather couches, also houses a nightclub, a music venue and a cafe. It is part of a larger development called Nolita Place, a 12-story residential tower with 65 units built on another former parking lot. One of the first luxury forays onto this stretch of the Bowery, Blvd often draws long lines of customers.

    Yet for all of its non-Bowery airs, the restaurant, like the New Museum with its outdoor exhibition, is attempting to integrate itself into the neighborhood. Ed Brady, who with his sister Nancy opened Blvd earlier this year, has known and done business with many of the street's restaurant suppliers for years.

    Still, said Mr. Brady, a lifelong New Yorker, the suppliers probably regard the restaurant's presence as just another harbinger of what's to come. Next door Mazer Store Equipment, another Bowery redoubt, was sold months ago and is being hollowed out for something new.

    "On one side, they're happy to see the street developing," he said. "But they had such good deals for so long, that with all these restaurants and nightclubs and bars opening up, it's going to increase the rents."

    Back at Bari Restaurant and Pizzeria Equipment, where no one need worry about rent, things are slightly more philosophical. Shooting the breeze in one of their stores and looking out onto the street, the brothers pondered why the Bowery has had such a unique history. One thought seemed to ring true.

    "It's not a street. It's not a road. It's not a boulevard," Mike Bari said. "It's just the Bowery."

    Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

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    8/1 - Cooper Square rising


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    Well that was fast...

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    Ah, there's that thread. I'll post the construction photos there.

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