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    Quote Originally Posted by nym9
    Theres a wal-mart close by in Valley Stream, and a relatively new Target in North Queens, I dont see a need for Wal-mart. Or a Lowes for that matter.
    I think the opposition in Queens will keep Wal-Mart away. I wouldn't mind a Lowe's - competition with Home Depot.

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    Oh this theater project is taken SO long....

    Developer May Soon Revive Landmark Theater in Flushing


    By JULIA VITULLO-MARTIN
    September 29, 2005


    At a public hearing on Tuesday, the Board of Standards and Appeals signaled that the 20-year saga of the RKO-Keith Theater in Flushing, Queens, may soon end, leading to the building's rebirth.

    The board's chairwoman, Meenakshi Srinivasan, indicated she would be receptive to granting the variance that would allow a major reconstruction of the site to go forward. Further negotiations will be necessary to decide the details of a tentatively reached compromise proposed by the development director of Boymelgreen Developers, Scott Milsom, who agreed to provide more parking in exchange for being allowed to build at their requested bulk.

    Many community representatives seemed relieved. "People are in favor of this project," the district manager of Community Board 7, Marilyn Bitterman, said. "The site was abandoned and neglected for years. We were thrilled when the developer purchased it and decided to develop it while keeping the integrity of the theater and enhancing the landmarked portion of the building."

    The president of Queens, Helen Marshall, regarded RKO-Keith as so important that she testified in person - the first time she has done so since leaving the chairmanship of the zoning committee of Community Board 3 and winning elected office. She urged the board to accept the "project proposal as approved by Community Board 7 and myself."

    Or as Council Member John Liu said, "We want this building resurrected from the dead, and we really don't want to wait much longer."

    A lawyer for Boymelgreen, Howard Goldman, said the project would go forward if all goes well at a final hearing on November 2. The board may then approve the project by the end of the year.

    It will indeed be a resurrection. After being nearly destroyed in 1986 by its owner, Thomas Huang, who demolished sections of the exterior and spilled hundreds of gallons of oil in the basement, the RKO-Keith Theater sat vacant, dragging down property values. Boymelgreen bought it in 2002, and proposed a 19-story, 375,000-square-foot mixed-use building, which is about three times what zoning allows. Community members were concerned about the size of the project and were not appeased even with a design by a renowned architectural firm, the V Studio of the Walker Group. In February 2004, Community Board 7 voted 35-0 not to approve it.

    The architect tried again, scaling it down from a floor area ratio of 9.5 to a FAR of 7.5, eliminating the interior retail mall and most office space, making the project largely residential with only ground-level retail. The new design retained features important to the community, including a 12,500-square-foot senior center and four levels of parking. In February 2005, the community board voted 32-2 to approve it.

    Nonetheless, the Board of Standards and Appeals, which had to authorize the variance, was intent on scaling the project back further, to a FAR of 6.5.The developer said this was unworkable.

    The site offers tough design problems for many reasons, not least because the theater's interior, which is landmarked, has been badly trashed. (Though designed by a famous architect, Thomas Lamb, the theater's exterior was not landmarked at the request of then-borough president Donald Manes, who later committed suicide amid financial scandals.) Calling this part of the site "the egg," a principal of the V Studio, Jay Valgora, testified that preserving it while trying to build on top of and around it presented him with the "most complex job of sequencing" he had ever faced as an architect. It also presented him with very high construction costs of $238 a square foot. "The costs of preserving the egg are constant," he said. "We need a variance for greater bulk to offset these costs. If we're forced to go down to 6.5, we'll have to produce an inferior building, with punched windows and a far less articulated facade." The audience stirred as he spoke. After waiting all these years, community members do not want an inferior building.

    And while the apartments will be sold at prices between $470 and $623 a square foot ($337,000 to $1.2 million), Mr. Goldman testified that profits will be low - 3.3% at the 7.5 FAR requested by the developer, or 1.5% at the 6.5 FAR preferred by the Board of Standards and Appeals. Ms. Srinivasan, the chairwoman, challenged Mr. Goldman and Mr. Valgora, asking why they could not provide all the same amenities they propose at 7.5 for a smaller building at 6.5.

    In the end, the extra parking demanded by the board - 32 spaces - became a deal maker. The site, which is near Flushing Bay, sits on a high water table, making construction deep into the ground very expensive. But Mr. Milsom proposed a solution: "We'll figure out how to find more parking without going down to the water table," he said.

    Yet even if the board approves the FAR of 7.5 on November 2 as expected, construction is unlikely to begin for another eight months, while new designs are prepared. The building won't open, says Mr. Milsom, for at least two and a half years.

    If the neighborhood is indeed given back its RKO-Keith Theater in 2007, it will have much to celebrate - including the 80th anniversary of RKO-Keith's first groundbreaking in 1927. It opened to joyous crowds in 1928.


    © 2005 The New York Sun

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    Welcome news. Does anyone know what happened of Mr. Huang? Is he still in real estate, screwing yet another property? I'd like to know why a man of his low standards was able to obtain a property like RKO Keith.

    The bureaucracy surrouding the redevelopment is troubling and I think the slimming down of the renovation itself was bad. BUT, it's better than anything. Let's get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    The site offers tough design problems for many reasons, not least because the theater's interior, which is landmarked, has been badly trashed.

    If the neighborhood is indeed given back its RKO-Keith Theater in 2007, it will have much to celebrate - including the 80th anniversary of RKO-Keith's first groundbreaking in 1927. It opened to joyous crowds in 1928.
    Great post and great news.

    I remember the RKO Keiths, I saw many films there as a kid including Beat Street, Empire Strikes Back and Porkys (had to sneak in)

    Jon Favreau, director of Swingers and Elf, also remembers it fondly:
    Q: You used to usher at the RKO Keith in Queens.

    Jon Favreau: That’s right! How did you know that?

    Q: I think you mentioned it on Dinner for Five. That used to be the theater we went to when I was a kid.

    Favreau: Oh God what a theater that was. I saw Return of the Jedi 50 times there. Flashdance was there. I remember Spinal Tap – nobody was in the theater. I didn’t even think it was funny at the time but now I love it. It used to be an old vaudeville house so it had catacombs underneath it and people living in dressing rooms in the back. It was a cool theater. There was a big sky painted on the ceiling.

    Also they had weird stores surrounding it, like a video-game store that had dozens of Atari 2600 hooked up to play and preview games.


    The best part of the theater was that to a kid, it was a dream-like place, with the painted ceilings and the castle-like interior. It was an experience beyond the movie itself and it should be a priority for Flushing and Queens development.

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    I was in Flushing today and construction of Queens Crossing is going on quite well. Steel is already coming up. Just to refresh some minds, here are some renderings:







    Queens Crossing website.

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    Does anyone know when construction on Municipal Lot 1 begins?

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    Progress on Queens Crossing is going well. The beams already top the 3rd/4th floors and I also see steel siding for the floors.

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    Strattonport, it sounds like you're a Queens man.
    Will you keep us updated on the Queens projects? With photos and descriptions, too?
    This will be your job from now on!

    Does anyone know when construction on Municipal Lot 1 begins?
    If you're referring to Flushing Commons, I think it ran into NIMBY's.
    I thought I had read a news article posted on this forum not too long ago that said the community merchants were against losing the parking facility and were suing to stop this project.
    For some reason, I can't find that article again!?
    Last edited by antinimby; November 2nd, 2005 at 08:28 PM.

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    Hey, thanks. Yeah, I live in the area so I pass by it pretty easily. Unfortunately, my digital camera died on me (a Canon) so no photos for the time being. On the bright side, it seems they're making good progress with the building. They get a lot of steel up every week. I wouldn't be surprised if the complex is topped by the end of this year.

    As for Municipal Lot 1, I think it's still going on. It it were cancelled, there would've been some reporting on it by now.

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    I have a friend who lives in Flushing. She plans to give me a tour of the area soon.

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    Hope you take photos!

    Anyway, I swung around the area and they've hung up this nice banner that wraps around the scaffolding adjacent to Main Street. It advertises the buildling and gives an opening date (Fall 2006). It also gives people the opportunity to lease retail space (ground level to the second floor). There were listings for a website and a phone number regarding inquires but I've forgotten them. Sorry!

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    I went by there this evening. CBRE - NYC Retail. No mention of the project whatsoever. It's also the first time I've seen the phrase "Manhattan's Outer Boroughs."

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    I paid another visit there. Not much in terms of change aside from the installation of paneling.

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    I just found out Queens Crossing is not residential...
    Last edited by submachine; December 7th, 2005 at 11:42 AM. Reason: Image too large, preplaced with link

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    No, it will be mixed-use retail/business. The adjacent Flushing Commons will have housing, I believe.

    Here's a scan I got from this past Tuesday's Post on the property:


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