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Thread: New York Times Tower - 620 Eighth Avenue @ W. 41st Street - by Renzo Piano

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    Demolition "officially" began last week. January 22, 2004.

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    How long ago did demolition begin and end on Milstein's project at 8th Ave & 42nd. The only thing we are guaranteed of by the demolition of the NY Times site is a barran landscape of rat fields along Eighth Ave. I wouldn't be surprised if Ratner did it as a political move, considering all the hell he is catching for emminent domain abuse in Brooklyn.

    If Milstein and Ratner breakgound on Construction this year, we can look truly forward to a new gateway to Times Square and a renaissance for the horrible avenue that is Eighth between 34th and 42nd.

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    How long ago did demolition begin and end on Milstein's project at 8th Ave & 42nd.
    The Times is demolishing viable space here, whereas Milstein just tore up asphalt. I agree that demolition might mean nothing, but its a sign for better things to come....

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    A marketing kickoff will start in the first quarter of 2004--a timeframe that coincides with the start of construction. Ratner expects there will be a 35-month construction process and the site will be ready for occupancy in the first quarter of 2007.
    Looks like complete demolition is about to begin on the site. That would mean they are keeping with the construction schedule. I have no doubts they will find a tenant, the Times Square Tower had a similar problem, but we're talking abou the "NY Times" tower. Who wouldn't want to be associated with that name recognition?

    The Milstein site is a different story, different developers who have had their own unique problems.

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    In addition, the Milstein site has that odd L-shape. That can't be good for large floor plates. NYTimes would be nice and rectangular.

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    The parking garage is gone clearing the way for New York Times Tower. 21 February 2004.

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    Cool. I went to get photos of the building that was being taken down, but its pretty much gone. The next building is about to be demolished though...

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    I hadn't even realized the parking garage was gone because I was focusing on the building being demolished next to it. The next building to be demolished is the building immediately after the "parking" sign in this photo...

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    Snapped these photos up for demolition...kiss it goodbye!....

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    TOKYO - Fujitec Co. (TSE:6406 - News) announced that it has received three orders from abroad for elevators and escalators that together are worth 5.5 billion yen (US$50.4 million). The New York Times Co. has placed a 1.9 billion yen order for 33 elevators for its new 52-story headquarters, the New York Times Tower. Some of the elevators will be able to travel as fast as 480 meters per minute. Fujitec expects to complete work on the order in the summer of 2006.

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    480 meters/min = 26.246 ft/sec = 17.9 miles/hr.

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    Some interesting stuff.

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    March 2, 2004

    Where a Newspaper Began, the Only Sign Seeks a Buyer


    Having somehow survived as long as The New York Times itself, the tatterdemalion of a building where this newspaper was born 152 years ago is on the market for the first time in six decades, leaving its future uncertain.

    Home to The Times for the first 817 of its 52,776 issues to date, then to Leggat Brothers bookstore, George F. Cram's atlas company, the Vesuvius restaurant and finally a McDonald's, the decrepit six-story structure at 113 Nassau Street, between Ann and Beekman Streets, stands vacant. The asking price is $4.25 million, and no - just for the record - the Times Company isn't interested.

    "Been there, done that," explained Catherine J. Mathis, vice president for corporate communications.

    A new headquarters planned by The Times, across Eighth Avenue from the Port Authority Bus Terminal, will have four times as much space on a single newsroom floor as in the entire Nassau Street building, which was never well suited to the newspaper business. Augustus Maverick recalled the inaugural issue in "Henry J. Raymond and the New York Press," his 1870 biography of the founding editor.

    "The first number of the Times was 'made up,' in open lofts, destitute of windows, gas, speaking-tubes, dumb-waiters and general conveniences," Mr. Maverick wrote. "All was raw and dismal."

    He continued: "All the night, the soft summery air blew where it listed, and sometimes blew out the feeble lights; and grimy little 'devils' came down at intervals from the printing-room, and cried for 'copy'; and every man in the company, from the chief to the police reporter, gave his whole mind to the preparation of the initial sheet."

    The building, a brownstone, was still under construction when Raymond took it over. He had a Hoe's Lightning Press installed in the basement and declared, when his four-page New-York Daily Times first hit the cobblestones on Sept. 18, 1851, that the newspaper would be published "for an indefinite number of years to come."

    But not at 113 Nassau Street. Within three years, the demands of printing 28,000 copies a day were straining the operation to the breaking point. Readers up on 40th Street grumbled frequently about late delivery.

    "With new and improved machinery, and larger and more convenient premises," The Times reported in April 1854, "all which we shall have as soon as builders and machinists will do their part, we trust our subscribers will have still less reason to complain of delay, or of anything else, than they have had hitherto."

    A month later, the newspaper moved out and never looked back.

    At least until 1954, when a plaque honoring Raymond was set into the sidewalk out front by Sigma Delta Chi, a journalistic fraternity. Arthur Hays Sulzberger, the president and publisher of The Times, attended the ceremony, as did several Raymond descendants, Mayor Robert F. Wagner and Hulan E. Jack, the Manhattan borough president.

    The plaque described Raymond as a "pioneer in publishing the facts of the news without regard for party or personal preference." Customers heading for a 75-cent plate of spaghetti marinara at Vesuvius restaurant would have stepped right over it. Or on it.

    Vesuvius opened in 1945 under the proprietorship of Tobias Lenzo, who had arrived in the United States from Italy in 1904 and worked as a musical conductor until 1927, when he went into the restaurant business. He bought 113 Nassau Street in 1945 under the name Helen L. Realty Corporation, in honor of his wife.

    He died in 1947, but his children - the family name is now spelled Lenza - still own the building. "We got older and wanted to sell some things," said Michael J. Lenza, 71, explaining the decision to put it on the market.

    Massey Knakal Realty Services, sales agents, are selling the building "as is." They calculated the development potential of the site as 38,250 square feet, more than twice as much as the current structure. The presence of a two-story building on one side of No. 113 and a vacant lot on the other suggests the possibility of a larger property assemblage.

    After a quarter-century, McDonald's closed four years ago, leaving tall brick arches in a granite-tile facade that completely altered the lower half of the building, a large wall sign and a door decal promoting two apple pies for $1. (Plus tax.) Imprinted on the blank north wall, adjoining a vacant lot, is the ghostly silhouette of an old house that once stood at No. 115, with roof gables and a central chimney.

    There is no trace of the plaque and, for that matter, none of The Times.

    Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

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    More demolition...

    8th Ave

    40th Street

  15. #240


    Nooooooo that old building!!!!

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