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    I think it will be fine b/c all there is now is talk of now big blocks of office space. The timing seems right for the developer to seem like a genius, with this being a totally spec building.

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    There was an add for the building in today's post.... advertising fall 2005 availabilities, and the website for the building:

    http://www.505fifth.com/

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    New rendering, its a super large image so copy and paste the url.

    http://specialsections.nypost.com/ne...mg/a_1_p41.jpg

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    I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos
    There was an add for the building in today's post.... advertising fall 2005 availabilities, and the website for the building:

    http://www.505fifth.com/
    The site is up and running now. Renderings by Advanced Media Design and KPF.
    Also, check out this article from Architectural Record.

    Slender, Robust, and Very Tall
    Cast-in-place reinforced concrete rises to the occasion.
    By Sara Hart

    http://archrecord.construction.com/i...Buildings.asp#
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    The base looks exactly like the render.

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    They should have added residential to the whole design. It would had been taller. Especially on that site with a view of the park and the library, those units will have been sold like pancakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    They should have added residential to the whole design. It would had been taller. Especially on that site with a view of the park and the library, those units will have been sold like pancakes.
    True. Were they restricted by zoning and couldn't get/didn't want air rights?

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    From Transfer
    "nyc's chronicler of good bass & bad architecture"

    http://www.usemenow.com/web-log/arch...nd_st_los.html

    Its a 27-story, 275,000 square ft. internationalist glass box, immediately accross the street from Shreve, Lamb and Harmon's regally terraced 500 5th Ave, and perpendicular to Carrere and Hastings Beaux Art's landmark NY Public Library. Its 42nd St. AND 5th Ave. Suffice to say, a hugely important site.

    IT WAS GOING to be a landmark Steven Holl structure. The model was shown off during MOMA's Tall Buildings exhibit this past summer, and still appears on Holl's site. It WOULD have included a public garden on the roof and a permanent installation by artist James Turrell. But instead Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates got the contract. Wipe the tears and peruse the photos, as another lost opportunity takes shape. Its better than what existed on the site previously, but hardly what it could have been.


    Here are some of the other unbuilt designs.

    1. Lot-ek
    Interesting design using shipping containers. There a project using the containers going up in NoHo and a temporary one being constructed on a pier.

    http://www.lot-ek.com/permanent.htm
    Container Mall, 5th Ave. and 42nd St, New York

    Nine levels of containers are stacked to make an improvised typology for the mall. The project takes advantage of the inherent intelligence of standardized shipping containers to configure vertical malls that could be erected in left over empty lots throughout the city. Each container module serves as an indoor booth in the fashion of an urban market. The location shown is a sliver of street front real-estate on 5th Avenue at 42nd Street. In this scheme, the containers are placed in an undulating manner, animating the façade. A system of catwalks, stairs, and elevators is wedged between the container stack and the wall of the adjacent building to make up the circulation and a series of outdoor public spaces. Containers are taken out at different locations, allowing the exchange of air, light, and street views.

    2. Previous design by KPF with the developers LCOR. Rendering by Archimation.

    3. Steven Holl

    http://www.stevenholl.com/PT310_1CR.htm

    5th Avenue and 42nd Street Tower
    New York, New York

    Program Offices, Restaurant,
    Retail, Cafe
    client Fifth at 42nd LLC
    size 401,330 sf
    status Schematic Design Phase

    Design architect: Steven Holl, Solange Fabião
    Project architect: Simone Giostra
    Project team: Ziad Jamaleddine, Irene Vogt

    Across from the New York Public Library on the corner of 5th Avenue and 42nd Street an urban corner tower is proposed. In Manhattan, this is a mythical corner. The city of "continuous profane time," of rushing workers, warps the curtain wall base. The "sacred time" within the New York Public Library across the street can be viewed from two terraces carved into the 600-foot curtain wall. The core of the building is split following the concrete sheer walls up through the tower, like an open book facing the library. From the open space around the library the subtle curves inspire awe. This unique Manhattan corner puts public space on the tower's roof terrace in celebration of the view over midtown's only large green space, Bryant Park.

    4 ? If the adjacent buildings were enveloped into the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime
    They should have added residential to the whole design. It would had been taller. Especially on that site with a view of the park and the library, those units will have been sold like pancakes.
    It's probably not zoned to be taller.

    I just saw that BB had the same comment.

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    SOM also had a design for a tower here too, it was a larger version for LCOR, it was actually my favorite, followed by Holl, and the original KPF design.

    The to-be-built design is my least favorite, it is as bad if not worse than the CIBC Building, that blank glass wall facing 42nd Street is disheartening.

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    Multi-faceted:





    Green glass:


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    I like it, thanks for the pics NYatKNIGHT

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    I don't know if I'd call it multi-faceted, its rather dull IMO.

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