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    Extell's billion-dollar baby
    Developer seeks bids to flip Riverside South parcels at top dollar; condos are king




    By Julie Satow
    September 12, 2005

    Extell Development Corp. is quietly shopping a huge swath of land at Riverside South, the valuable West Side development that it agreed to purchase from Donald Trump and a consortium of investors only months ago, real estate sources say. The price tag could reach as high as $1 billion.

    The move has caught industry insiders by surprise. Extell and its partner--Washington, D.C.-based investment fund The Carlyle Group--are planning to build condominium towers in another section of Riverside South and had been expected to develop the rest of the available property.

    In June, Extell and Carlyle agreed to pay $1.76 billion for a chunk of Riverside South, in the city's largest residential property sale ever. Extell and Carlyle already have deals to sell three rental buildings for $816 million. Now, if they can get the right price to flip as much as 2.4 million square feet of vacant land, they could recoup their entire outlay.

    At least two bidders have submitted offers on the property, which is between West 59th and West 61st streets, say lawyers and brokers who represent them. The names of the bidders could not be determined. Extell and Carlyle declined to comment.

    The bids illustrate the persistent strength of the residential real estate market in Manhattan. While the flip is an opportunity for Extell and Carlyle to grab some immediate cash, bidders are betting on a longer-term payoff. Any buyer of the Riverside South parcels will likely use the property to develop its own condominium towers, with pricey luxury units that would not come on line for several years at least.

    "The market continues to be very strong; buyers have been aggressive, and prices continue to move upward," says Nat Rockett, a senior vice president at Jones Lang LaSalle. "There is a lot of money out there on both the equity and lending sides."

    The property in play includes 1.8 million square feet of developable land that is zoned for commercial use; a buyer would likely seek city approval to rezone it for residential use. The land being marketed also includes more than 570,000 square feet zoned for residential use.


    Aiming high


    The asking price--approximately $425 a square foot--is near the top of the market. Last month, New York Law School sold 57 Worth St. for $500 per developable square foot.

    "At the right number, everything is for sale," says a real estate insider familiar with the Riverside South negotiations. "Extell and Carlyle are sellers, and the deals are price-driven."

    Donald Trump purchased Riverside South, a 77-acre enclave that extends from West 59th Street to West 72nd Street, for $100 million in 1985. He proposed the construction of Television City, a 16.5 million-square-foot development for NBC that would have included the world's tallest building, at 152 stories. His plan was shelved after NBC backed out amid stiff community opposition.

    Mr. Trump didn't give up. As he moved ahead on a new plan--including 16 residential buildings, commercial space and a waterfront public park--he found his empire in financial turmoil. He sold 70% of his interest in Riverside South in 1994 in order to finance his development there.

    The pending sale to Extell and Carlyle helped raise the profile of Extell President Gary Barnett. He soon made a bid to develop a Brooklyn site, going up against real estate heavyweight Bruce Ratner--who was awarded the site, as most observers expected. A major resource enabling Mr. Barnett to aim so high is The Carlyle Group, which has invested in several of his properties, including the 60-story Orion condominium tower on West 42nd Street.

    Extell and Carlyle's Riverside South purchase is expected to close by the end of this month. Mr. Trump is taking legal action against his partners, claiming that the sale is below market value.

    Barring complications, Extell intends to build condos on vacant plots between West 61st and West 65th streets; it has already begun construction on part of that property, according to a real estate expert familiar with the strategy.

    "Their business plan is to build condominiums on the vacant land," says a broker who is familiar with Extell and Carlyle. "But if the right price is put on the table, they will sell."


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    Trump Dispute Spotlights Asian Real-Estate Mogul



    The two-pronged building in the foreground
    is part of the property being disputed by Mr.
    Trump and his Hong Kong partners.



    By CHRISTINE HAUGHNEY and JAMES T. AREDDY and JONATHAN CHENG

    The $1 billion lawsuit filed on July 18 by Donald Trump against a group of his Hong Kong investment partners didn't stop one of them, Vincent H.S. Lo, from unveiling a television show yesterday called "The Winner" -- loosely modeled on Mr. Trump's "The Apprentice."

    The two real-estate moguls are a lot alike. While Mr. Trump perfects the art of the deal in New York, Mr. Lo wheels and deals in the one city that may be hotter: Shanghai.

    Just as Mr. Trump has emblazoned his surname on marble and glass across the U.S., Mr. Lo, arguably China's most celebrated property developer, is stamping his brand across the mainland. State-owned Shanghai Media Group's Dragon TV and China Business News Channels plan to begin broadcasting Mr. Lo's TV show in September.

    Mr. Trump says he is flattered by Mr. Lo's TV plans. "It just shows you how much Vincent respects me," he says. "We've always had a good relationship."

    Mr. Trump filed suit against Mr. Lo and other Hong Kong investors who are partners with Mr. Trump in a 77-acre New York property on Manhattan's West Side. The group has contracted to sell the property for $1.76 billion to private-equity firm Carlyle Group and Extell Management Co., in what could be the biggest residential sale in New York's history.

    But Mr. Trump says the sum is too low, and he claims in his suit that the partners are either "reckless, uninformed or grossly negligent."

    "Someone may say you made a lot of money," Mr. Trump said in an interview. "But that's not how the game is played. You sell it for the proper amount of money. You don't give away an asset."

    None of the partners, who include Hong Kong billionaire and New World Development Co. Chairman Henry Cheng, has commented specifically on the lawsuit, filed in federal district court in New York. Several of them are traditionally low-profile Asian tycoons who rarely speak to the news media.

    But in an interview on the third floor of his Shanghai mansion, dubbed the Clubhouse, Mr. Lo calmly asserts that the suit lacks merit, as he sinks silver-tipped chopsticks into a five-course Cantonese lunch.

    "The shareholders have already done everything possible to get the best sales price for the lot," Mr. Lo says of the real-estate partnership. He goes on to rattle off his current roster of projects, including some of the most-expensive developments in Shanghai, in addition to his new TV show.

    He hopes to repeat his success with the $170 million Xintiandi project in Shanghai, a historically themed development that includes restaurants, bars and some of the priciest offices and apartments in China, as well as one of China's first Starbucks. The development, which has influenced projects throughout China, is owned by Mr. Lo's Shui On Land Ltd., which he says he plans to take public as soon as early next year. Last fall, his company had five ongoing development projects in different cities valued at a total of $8 billion.

    The partners in the Manhattan property came together in 1994, when Mr. Trump was experiencing financial difficulties. The terms of the original deal prescribed that Messrs. Lo and Cheng and several other Hong Kong investors would purchase the plot from Mr. Trump for $82 million and assume $250 million in debt. Despite having pulled his own money out of the deal, Mr. Trump received a 30% interest in the newly formed partnership, lending his name and expertise to the development.

    Since then, Mr. Trump has golfed with the two Chinese billionaires at his course outside New York City and even lent Mr. Cheng his plane to visit his children at private school in Connecticut, people familiar with the matter say. On this year's Forbes magazine list of the world's billionaires, Mr. Trump is No. 228, with $2.6 billion, falling between Mr. Cheng at No. 132, with $4.2 billion, and Mr. Lo at No. 507, with $1.3 billion.

    In the current dispute, Mr. Trump, 59 years old, says there have been several offers to buy the property, including bids from developer Richard LeFrak, a close friend, and Barry Sternlicht, chairman emeritus of Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide Inc.

    One offer came from Thomas J. Barrack Jr., a friend of Mr. Trump's, who bid $2.9 billion for the property in May. Mr. Barrack, chairman and chief executive of Colony Capital LLC, a Los Angeles-based private-equity group, confirmed the bid yesterday through an assistant. Mr. Trump says that Mr. Cheng turned down every offer.

    "He said, 'We are satisfied with the price,' " says Mr. Trump. "I said, 'How can you be satisfied?' " Mr. Trump still bristles when recalling the moment in April when the Hong Kong developers told him they were selling the West Side property. "To this day," Mr. Trump says, "it's the craziest deal I've ever seen."

    Mr. Lo, 57, agrees that several offers were made for the site, but he says none received in writing was higher than the $1.76 billion selling price.

    A spokesman for Mr. LeFrak says the developer wouldn't confirm or deny any discussions to buy the Manhattan site. Mr. Sternlicht wouldn't comment on any bids he might have made.

    Scott Latham, a real-estate sales broker with Cushman & Wakefield Inc., says he had shopped the property to potential buyers for a year and couldn't find a buyer willing to pay more than $1.3 billion. "From my perspective, a sale at $1.76 [billion] was a phenomenal execution for the ownership consortium," he says. Mr. Latham says that he didn't arrange the deal with the Carlyle Group and Extell Management.

    George Artz, a spokesman for Mr. Trump's Asian investment partners, said the group received "five written bids and Gary Barnett's was the highest," referring to the president of Extell Management.

    One of the first Hong Kong businessmen to invest aggressively in China, Mr. Lo maintains close ties with mainland officials, earning the nickname "the king of guanxi," or connections.

    Now he is poised to spread his fame with "The Winner." Like "The Apprentice," in which Mr. Trump tests the business mettle of contestants and revels in firing those who don't measure up, "The Winner" tests the entrepreneurial spirit of contestants in real-life situations. Each of 14 contestants will be given 100,000 yuan, or about $12,000, to launch a business and then will be followed over the course of the season. The one with the best project gets the grand prize of a million yuan.

    But there are some telling differences. The winner on "The Apprentice" gets a job with Mr. Trump's company; The victor on "The Winner" will set up his or her own business. Mr. Trump famously appears on each episode of "The Apprentice," while in "The Winner," a panel of experts will evaluate contestants' business proposals weekly, only occasionally consulting Mr. Lo -- who says he has no intention of firing anyone.

    "It's not a show for one individual's fame, but rather for the public interest," says Yun Binshu, a spokeswoman for Dragon TV.

    Like Mr. Lo, Mr. Cheng is the son of a wealthy Hong Kong property tycoon. Mr. Cheng's multibillion-dollar conglomerate controls several prominent properties in Hong Kong but has suffered from overexpansion, incurring losses and, like many of the region's companies, piling up debt because of the 1997-98 Asian financial crisis. Since then, the company has erased some of its debts and won back the confidence of many investors.


    Copyright © 2005 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.

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    NYC 09 15 05

    TRUMP SUIT DUMPED


    Peter Slatin

    Donald Trump's suit against his partners in the sale of the Riverside South property has been dismissed.

    The dismissal was issued Wednesday by Justice Richard B. Lowe III of the Commercial Division of New York State's Supreme Court, and denied Trump's ten-motion attempt to keep the general partners that control the sprawling West Side site frm selling it – and from dumping the $1.76 billion in proceeds into a tax-free 1031 exchange. Doing so will allow the general partners to avoid paying some $500 million in taxes, according to an affidavit filed by an executive with the general partners.

    More to the point for Donald, the 1031 exchange may also allow them to avoid distributing proceeds from the sale to their limited partners, including Trump.

    Court papers say Trump's 30% stake in the property through a series of limited partnerships would be worth $528 million if the sale were an all-cash deal.

    Essentially, the ruling disagrees with Trump's contention that the sellers were breaching their fiduciary duty to the limited partners by entering into the exchange, and in fact found that they were upholding that duty by avoiding the hardship of a humongous tax burden.

    According to the ruling, Trump says that his partners offered to pay him his distribution in cash without putting his interest into the 1031 exchange. But while agreeing to the redemption,Trump, believing that the partners were not being forthcoming about all the money due him, insisted on a peek into the books of the general partner. He declined to sign a document that would have prevented him from taking any action against the group if they let him take that peek. No signature, no look, no cash.

    Judge Lowe was apparently also not impressed by documents submitted by Trump to prove that his partners were fraudulently selling the site at a price well below its market value. Trump submitted what he said were unsolicited offers, in the form of a fax and a letter from two independent sources, suggesting that one would buy the property for $2.9 billion (Colony Capital) and the other for $3 billion (Richard LeFrak). But the judge found that these were simply "expressions of interest," and that there was no proof that these parties had done any due diligence or would proceed with an actual deal. On the other hand, the general partners were able to prove that they had received and discussed serious bids from five parties other than Extell/Carlyle – including Vornado Realty Trust and the Related Cos., and three other bidders, all of whom had done extensive research into the site and had made serious offers.


    © 2003 - 2004. The Slatin Report.

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    Is it true that Trump constructed space for a subway underneath his buildings at Riverside South adjacent to the Amtrak tunnel as part of the deal with community groups? I heard that he left space for station in the vicinity of 72nd St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DA SMAZ
    Is it true that Trump constructed space for a subway underneath his buildings at Riverside South adjacent to the Amtrak tunnel as part of the deal with community groups? I heard that he left space for station in the vicinity of 72nd St.
    There is space for a commuter rail station in the tunnels below Trump Place. No subway lines run anywhere near the property.

    There are long-term plans to run Metro-North trains through the West Side rail tunnels to Penn Station. The link would include new Metro North stations on the West Side and in the East Bronx.

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    Good find vc10!

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    Panoramic view of the Trump Place from Weehawken in August of 2005.





    Trump Place and Circle Line boat.


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    Sterile.

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    Hate the buildings ... Love the park.

    The new area of the park (corresponding to approximately 66th to 63rd Streets if those ran all the way to the river) is really well done and makes a great connection to the river and the old piers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    Hate the buildings ...
    Could be worse. Could be as bad as the buildings behind them.

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    Lincoln Towers?




    Yep, they're not too special are they? But at street level they at least give you room to breath -- set back from the street and green space between.

    Unlike Trumps troops, all lined up shoulder to shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    ...at street level they at least give you room to breathe -- set back from the street and green space between.
    You get that in the suburbs too. Maybe Corb and Moses were right.

    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    ...all lined up shoulder to shoulder.
    That's the urban condition.
    Last edited by ablarc; October 1st, 2005 at 08:53 AM.

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    ^ I'm not aching for more towers in the park.

    I like my urban spaces a bit messier.

    Which is why I'm hopeful about the Gehry plan in Brooklyn (although not so crazy about the extent of Ratner's scheme).

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    I like the Trump Place Buildings... Besides I live in one of them.

    So I ask which of the Trump Towers is the best. Even if you don't like any of them... which one do you hate the least?

    Oh and those Lincoln Towers are hideous. I though they were project buildings at first.

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