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    That planning process is on-going ...

    FAR specifics are adjusted all the time, and has been recently for Hudson Yards, Eighth Avenue in Clinton and any number of other areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    That planning process is on-going ...

    FAR specifics are adjusted all the time...
    ...and sometimes the adjustments aren't improvements. When combined with height limitations, the result can be deadly. See Derek's post on that (23rd Street area).

    Just because people put a lot of study into something doesn't mean they get it right. How much study do you suppose various government agencies put into, say, the eradication of poverty or victory in Iraq?

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    I never said ^^^ the changes are / were an improvement.

    But felt the need to clarify what seemed to be a statement that FAR was a number unrelated to anything. However faulty the calculations may be, the numbers come from somewhere. In the case of NYC: from a big mess of planners, politicians, architects, developers, bureaucrats -- and citizens.

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    ^ ugh! Disgusting. In such a prime spot too.

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    Out of the quartet of newer Times Square towers - Conde, Ernst, Reuters, this one - I actually like this one the best; it's more interesting and focused a composition than the others (although Conde Nast is a very close second, EY is dead last). The black whatever they used to sheath the crown is unfortunate, but IMO the rest of the facade (zig-zags walking up Broadway, cross bracing on 42nd, playful Googie-style crown) makes up for it.

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    They should have done the whole building like the section with exposed cross-bracing -- that would have been slick.

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    Reuters is too short. Ernest & Young is also too short and just a snore.

    TS Tower is too boxy and as Trepye said, too damn plain for its prime location.

    Ratner's Hilton is atrocious. Thank god for Conde Nast, at least.

    And when the hell is Vornado going to build a tower on that Toys-R-Us site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    Reuters is too short. Ernest & Young is also too short and not that exciting.
    Its unfortunate that Reuters is so short, it is easily my #2 favorite out of the Times Square corporate collection after 4 Times Square. The design and glass quality is superb.

    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    Ratner's Hilton is atrocious
    The Hilton is indeed atrocious. Who thought 60's apartment style brick would be a tasteful choice for a Times Square hotel? Although I must say that I had a nice pre-theatre dinner last week at The View restaurant in the Hilton's 21st floor skylobby. Food was surprisingly quite good, and the restaurant afforded a great view of the old New York Times building.

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    ^ Amazing what a good camera/photographer can do for a bad-looking building.

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    I remember this being UC on my first visit here, i remember being gobsmacked at such a tall building being under construction in such a dense tight spot.

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    I think it not such a bad building, for its location. If anything the top looks horrible, especially from downtown. For months I thought it was incomplete, then I had to accept the fact that it was done. I was really disappointed.

    I think you'll probably have to put something very tall there for it to really stand out and maybe look good.

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    Default I tried hating this building for a long time,

    then I gave up. I like it in spite of its blandness.

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