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    February 9, 2006
    N.Y.U. Plans Mental Health Center for Children

    New York University plans to build what it says will be the nation's largest
    pediatric mental health center to treat thousands of children and train
    thousands of doctors, and Gov. George E. Pataki has pledged more than $65
    million in state funds for the project, which will help address a pressing

    The centerpiece will be a $110 million 120,000-square-foot Child Studies Center
    on First Avenue, between 25th and 26th Streets, to open in 2009, university
    officials said. It will be dedicated mostly to outpatient treatment and
    research, but will have a small number of inpatient beds. The project also
    includes the construction of a children's psychiatric hospital in Rockland

    The project, will be formally announced today at a ceremony with Governor Pataki
    and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg. The state will contribute $30 million toward the
    center in Manhattan, the entire $35 million cost of building the Rockland
    hospital, and an undetermined amount - also in the millions of dollars - on
    research staff members at the hospital. Including a $50 million endowment the
    university hopes to raise for the Child Studies Center, N.Y.U. put the price of
    the entire effort at $200 million.

    New York has an acute shortage of mental health services for children,
    especially for those on Medicaid, the government health plan for the poor.
    Children on Medicaid routinely wait many months to see therapists, and some
    give up and go without care. Each year, more than 1,000 children who need
    psychiatric hospitalization are sent out of state because there is no place in
    New York for them.

    The state has long resisted granting new licenses for mental health centers.
    Some centers, like the one N.Y.U. has now, were able get licenses to operate,
    but not to be Medicaid providers.

    But people involved in mental health say that in the last few years the state
    has become somewhat more receptive to allowing new centers. This year Mr.
    Pataki added $62 million for pediatric mental health services to his proposed
    budget. In N.Y.U.'s case, the state plans not only to allow a new center - an
    enormous one, at that - but also to license it to accept Medicaid payment, to
    cover a large share of the cost.

    The governor said in an interview that the emphasis on research was a big part
    of the project's appeal, that "as new treatments, new concepts arrive, we're
    going to make sure that New York" is a leader in developing them. "We're going
    to do the most advanced treatment in the world, but we're also going to find
    the nature of the problems."

    Dr. Harold S. Koplewicz, the director of the Child Studies Center, said, "We've
    been talking to the governor about this for two years, and I think he has
    recognized that instead of building new jail cells and wondering why kids drop
    out of school, if we front-loaded this and built more treatment centers,
    trained more doctors, that would be better."

    The current N.Y.U. center accepts about 2,000 new children each year for
    outpatient treatment, and Dr. Koplewicz said that in the new center the number
    "will at least triple, if not quadruple." In addition to expanding its work on
    depression, anxiety, attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder, and other
    common problems, he said, the center will focus on autism, eating disorders and
    the science of genetics and the brain.

    The number of child psychiatrists the center trains each year will double to 16,
    Dr. Koplewicz said.

    "But more important," he said, "because there are never going to be enough child
    psychiatrists, eventually, we're going to train thousands of pediatricians a
    year in identifying and treating depression, anxiety, A.D.H.D. and autism as a
    routine part of their practice."

    Mr. Bloomberg said that the center held out "the promise of revolutionizing our
    understanding of these types of mental health problems," and that "it will
    bolster our city's position as a global leader in medical and bioscience

    News of the project - and the state's involvement in it - surprised people who
    work in children's health. Phillip A. Saperia, executive director of the
    Coalition of Voluntary Mental Health Agencies, a trade group, said the project
    was the latest sign, and perhaps the most impressive, of a change in the
    state's approach to children's mental health. "This is a very big deal," he

    Dr. Irwin Redlener, president of the Children's Health Fund, which operates
    several clinics, said, "This is fantastic news." He added, "Whatever Harold
    Koplewicz did to make this happen needs to be replicated, because the state has
    been so adamant about not licensing or paying for new facilities."

    Jeremy Snyder, 14, who has A.D.H.D., said that like many young people, he found
    that before he started going to N.Y.U.'s center, "It was such a struggle to
    find places to go, especially anyplace that could address all of my needs under
    one roof." He said the center had helped him overcome behavioral and academic

    The state operates a psychiatric hospital complex in Orangeburg, in Rockland
    County, and N.Y.U. plans to replace the existing pediatric hospital there with
    the one it intends to build. The plan is to use N.Y.U. students and faculty as
    staff members and bolster the research done there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCDOC
    The centerpiece will be a $110 million 120,000-square-foot Child Studies Center.
    That's almost $1000 per square foot. Why is this building so expensive?

    Or --if they intend to spend so much on it-- why doesn't the building look better?

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    That will be the nation's largest pediatric mental health center? It just doesnt look like much. The desing is ok but not great.

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    it's OK I guess, maybe if the skin is nicely done it will turn out attractive.

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    What's with the colours? Too California. Bleh.

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    I agree. I think NYU should restrict itself to the business of education and not real estate development. I can't think of one good example of an NYU project that I really like. Maybe the new student center on Washington Square, but not even that so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czsz
    What's with the colours? Too California. Bleh.
    Well, that IS where most of NYU's students are from, outside of the NYC metro area. :P

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    Come to think of it that holds true for Columbia too. Maybe that explains why the planned Manhattanville campus looks kinda like a flashy Silicon Valley office park.

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    It's a public health facility for god's sake. I think it looks very nice. Any mention of who the design firm was?

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    BTW, anyone know what is there now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCDOC
    I think NYU should restrict itself to the business of education and not real estate development.
    Hardy Har Har. Excuse me until I stop laughing.

    Education is just a side-line for NYU. Real Estate is first priority. Second: sucking tens of thousands of dollars out of rich parents so that their kids can get totally useless MFAs.

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    I think the building is interesting -- the folded glass wall to the left has a lot of opportunities to become something very nice and the projecting glazed volume could be something incredible. Compared to anything and everything Costas Kondylis this is amazing.

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    No new news on this one, but I just realized the buildings NYU is trying to tear down are these:

    They are pretty much the only nice buildings remaining on this side of the avenue.

    Here's the rendering again.

    Maybe NYU is waiting to see if they'll win the bid for the Hunter's College block across the street. They can build 1msf there.

    You can see the existing red-brick Hunter building in this photo.

    NYU also just filed plans to build a 400-foot tall 1msf medical tower on 34th Street near the river. The picked good architects at least, Ennead - formerly Polshek Partnership.
    Last edited by Derek2k3; September 6th, 2010 at 12:16 PM.

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    It will really suck if these nice buildings are razed.

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    Demo permits have been filed for those old buildings above.

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