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    Building the box now is a good idea.

    Replacing the highway while it is still in good condition is a waste of public money.

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    Exactly ^^ just rebuilt ~ 10 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp
    Building the box now is a good idea.

    Replacing the highway while it is still in good condition is a waste of public money.
    Agreed. Eventually, decades from now, the higway will need replacing, and then that generation can decide how best to do the job. OUR generation is now facing that decision with the Gowanus, which (unlike the Upper West Side, which is already fully developed) presents an ENORMOUS development opportunity if the viaduct is torn down. As for the West Side Highway, the architects behind the East River park plan presented some nifty ideas for how to make an underpass into a pedestrian-pleasing experience. They should be called upon to design the West Side Highway underpass as well. If nothing else, the example of Grand Central and Park Avenue should teach us that an elevated viaduct need not be a blight on its surroundings.

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    Let's not forget the BQE.

    The generally accepted life span for an elevated highway in the Northeast environment is 50 years. The BQE is approaching 70.

    Rebuilding in place is a very slow and expensive process, and you're left with another 50 year roadway. The best solution is a tunnel, which can be built without disrupting the existing El, is easier to maintain, and improves the landscape.

    It is being done in Europe
    http://www.roadtraffic-technology.com/projects/a86/

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    If they are ever going to put the BQE underground its a hell of a lot of subway tunnels that they are going to have to work around.

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    Yes... just imagine all the exits they have to make coming out of those tunnels.

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    To bury the BQE... you would need MASSIVE TBMs, working round the clock and deep underground to do it in any reasonable time frame. Watch "I, Robot" and think that this is the level of deep under ground and complexity required. On and off ramps would be underground spiraled nightmares....


    Although, would be pretty cool to see the DOT come up with a plan like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE
    If they are ever going to put the BQE underground its a hell of a lot of subway tunnels that they are going to have to work around.
    The only place that there are a lot of tunnels is the section at Brooklyn Heights, where you wouldn't have to bury the roadway at all. Three sides are already enclosed; all is needed is a non-load bearing wall.

    To bury the BQE... you would need MASSIVE TBMs, working round the clock and deep underground to do it in any reasonable time frame. Watch "I, Robot" and think that this is the level of deep under ground and complexity required. On and off ramps would be underground spiraled nightmares....
    Those TBMS are already in existence and being used worldwide. A tunnel is now the preferred alternative for the Gowanus replacement.

    http://www.dot.state.ny.us/reg/r11/gowanus/index.html

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    Ah yes, the BQE-Gowanus Expressway project.
    Est. completion date: 2300 A.D.

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    Does that date ^ apply even after portions of the Gowanus come crashing down?

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    Default piling work has started on the 63rd to 64th st siite

    They started foundation work for extending Riverside Boulevard and 64th st to the Blvd.

    The Avery is up to the second floor.

    the Rushmore
    piling work is beginning

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    Went by Trump Place on Sunday and took some pics...damn this 10 image limit.

    A lil intro.




    Costas Kondylis & Partners


    Some of the old proposals

    Lincoln West Master Plan (1985)
    Commercial, Master Planning, Mixed Use, Residential
    Rafael Vinoly Architects



    Television City (1987)





    Riverside South; SOM (1992)

    Skidmore, Owings, & Merrill

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    The Heritage at Trump Place
    240 Riverside Boulevard/ Riverside South Building A
    31 stories 362 feet
    Costas Kondylis & Partners
    Dev-Hudson Waterfront Associates/ Trump New World Project Management
    Residential Condominium
    174 units 368,150
    Completed 2002-2005
    $125,000,000






    220 Riverside Boulevard
    220 Riverside Boulevard & Between West 70th Street & West 71st Street Trump Place/ Riverside South Building B
    542 feet 48 stories
    Costas Kondylis & Partners LLP Architects
    Dev-Hudson Waterfront Associates/ Trump New World Project Management
    Residential Condominium
    441 units 784,747 Sq. Ft.
    Completed 2001-April 2003






    200 Riverside Boulevard
    423-463 West 69th Street/ 422-444 West 70th Street
    Riverside South Building C
    46 stories 491 feet
    Costas Kondylis & Partners/ Philip Johnson Alan Ritchie Architects
    Dev-Hudson Waterfront Associates/ Trump New World Project Management
    Residential Condominium
    562,910 Sq. Ft./ 643,000 Sq. Ft. 374 units
    Completed 1999/2000

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    180 Riverside Boulevard
    455 West 68th Street/ 428-488 West 69th Street/ 185-199 Freedom Place/ Riverside South Building D
    40 stories 422 feet
    Costas Kondylis & Partners/Philip Johnson Alan Ritchie Architects
    Dev-Hudson Waterfront Associates/ Trump New World Project Management
    Residential Rental
    514 units 558,086 Sq. Ft.
    Completed 1999




    160 Riverside Boulevard
    423-443 West 67th Street/444 West 68th Street/ 161-177 Freedom Place/ Riverside South Building E
    33 stories 354 ft
    Costas Kondylis & Partners/Philip Johnson Alan Ritchie Architects
    Dev-160 Riverside D L.L.C./ Hudson Waterfront Associates/ Trump New World Project Management
    Residential Rental
    438 units 539,940 Sq. Ft.
    Completed 2001




    140 Riverside Boulevard
    143-157 Freedom Place, 433 West 66th Street/ 434 West 67th Street
    Riverside South Building F
    27 stories 338 feet
    SLCE/ Costas Kondylis & Partners/ Philip Johnson Alan Ritchie Architects
    Dev-Hudson Waterfront Associates/ Trump New World Project Management
    Residential Rental
    354 units 355,600 Sq. Ft.
    Completed October 2001-2003






    120 Riverside Boulevard
    West 65th and 66th and Riverside Boulevard Riverside South Building G
    18 stories 230/234 feet
    Philip Johnson/Alan Ritchie Costas Kondylis & Partners, LLP/ SLCE
    Dev-Hudson Waterfront Associates/ Trump New World Project Management
    Residential Rental
    272 units 389,568 Sq. Ft.
    Completed 2003-2005




    One West End Avenue (O-2)
    1-29 West End Avenue
    25 stories 293 feet (DOB)
    Costas Kondylis & Partners
    Dev-Atlantic Development Group
    Residential Rental
    211 units 198,000 ft² Sq. Ft. 284,074 Sq. Ft. (Total)
    Under Construction 2005-Late 2006


    33 West End Avenue
    Riverside South O-1
    14 stories 135 feet
    Costas Kondylis & Partners
    Dev-Atlantic Development Group (Senior Living Options,Inc.)
    Residential Rental
    120 units 85,000 Sq. Ft. 284,074 Sq. Ft. (Total)
    Under Construction 2005-Summer 2006

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