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    I'm feeling some deja vu about this for some reason. Is this the first time in history that plans were revealed to put residential on top of the Woolworth building?

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    Just prior to 9-11 there were plans to convert the building to Condos. Shelved soon after.

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    Nope, this has been planned for some time now. Next year is the tower's 100 year anniversary by the way.
    I hope they they don't turn off the exterior lighting -the Downtown skyline will be really dead without it.

    Photos of the old observation deck. Wish they'd open it one last time before privatizing it. One last hurrah before the deck at 1 WTC opens.


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    Let's put a tower of condos on top of the deadening One Police Plaza. And get rid of the 70's prison between it and the Federal Court House. Two big ugly piles that wouldn't be missed and their demise would open up some amazing possibilities.

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    They should reopen the deck to public. Observation decks are sadly lacking in today's Manhattan, yet judging by the astronomical popularity of the ESB and 30 Rock, they're sure to have long queues for the small "boutique deck" on top of Wooly. They can even charge ridiculously high prices and get away with it due to high demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Let's put a tower of condos on top of the deadening One Police Plaza. And get rid of the 70's prison between it and the Federal Court House. Two big ugly piles that wouldn't be missed and their demise would open up some amazing possibilities.
    To think that they turned half of lower Manhattan into a Walmart parking lot just to fill it with these dreadful structures. It's like a New Haven urban renewal district plunked down in the heart of one of the greatest cities on earth.

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    Is the dead zone between Police and Confucius plazas proof that the terrorists won?

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    Domesticating the Cathedral of Commerce with Luxe Condos

    by Branden Klayko

    (see article for more photos)

    New York City’s nouveau-tall skyscrapers, like the Christian de Portzamparc-designed One57 which recently topped out at 1,004 feet, have been wooing the world’s richest residential buyers with unimaginable amenities and floor-to-ceiling glass. But if you interested in an address that redefined tall—one hundred years ago—your options are more limited. Now, developers Alchemy Properties have acquired the top 30 floors of the iconic Woolworth Building in Lower Manhattan, the world’s tallest structure when it opened in 1913, with plans to build 40 super-luxury residential units in the sky.

    The Cass Gilbert-designed Woolworth, dubbed the “Cathedral of Commerce,” held the world’s tallest designation at 792 feet for a whopping 17 years from 1913 to 1930 when the Chrysler Building took the reigns, and it still holds its own on skyline of Lower Manhattan. The New York Times reports that the first new condos will begin at 350 feet above Broadway and a five-story penthouse in the building’s copper-clad crown—once a public observation area—will bring new meaning to majestic living. But then again, the only downside of living in the Woolworth Building might be not having a view of the Woolworth Building.

    With 40 units distributed over 30 floors, the project may not be increasing the city’s density by any appreciable level considering a single luxury residence could hold quite a few micro-apartments currently in discussion for Manhattan’s east side. (In fact, AN has estimated that in the same 30 floors, one could likely fit over 600 efficient 250-square foot micro-apartments.) Telescoping floors range in size from 8,000 to 3,500 square feet as the tower rises, but the height won’t be the only soaring aspect of the building. According to the Times, unit prices will top $2,000 per square foot, up from a neighborhood average of $1,250 per foot last quarter.

    If this news is an indicator that the economy of Lower Manhattan has finally, once-and-for-all rebounded, it might not be long until another luxury building rises next door to the Woolworth in a pit slated for an even-taller Robert A.M. Stern-designed hotel and condo tower.


    The Woolworth Building’s spires today (left) and in 1932 (right).
    (Tony Hisgett/Flickr and LeslieJones/Boston Public Library/Flickr)

    Between 1977 and 1981, the Woolworth Building’s glazed terra cotta facade underwent a restoration by the Ehrenkrantz Group, when 26,000 damaged pieces of terra cotta were replaced with architectural precast concrete and nearly 40 percent of the entire facade was touched up. While putting together a slideshow of the building past and present, AN uncovered this photo of two steeplejacks precariously clinging to one of the building’s four turrets, which reminded us that those turrets have been covered over today. Take a look at more photos of the Woolworth Building in the slideshow below.


    Woolworth Building compared to an ocean liner. (WorldIslandInfo.com/Flickr)

    http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/archives/44119

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    That is not just an observatory, its an art exhibit in the air.

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    I guess it will have to wait for some future adaptive reuse, but I wish someone would correct the improper renovation that replaced terra cotta tiles on the tower.

    The concrete-fiberglas fiber tiles are a failure. They have aged to a different color, especially noticeable after it rains. The concrete tiles absorb water.

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    That observatory is worthy (pun intended) of most balconies and observatories on the tops of grand old Gothic cathedrals. With some basic maintenance it could become a fantastic public space. As a private penthouse, the combination of height, location, and historical detailing will be unmatched in the entire city, if not the world.

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    Like so many other now hidden jewels in the city, it used to be a treat to walk into a place like Woolworth and just look around, without being screened, or questioned, or asked to leave.



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    I had my NYU classes just up those steps. Of course, the NYU portion is super modern and doesn't allow entry from the lobby, but at least one could get a good view from the classrooms inside.

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    Cass Gilbert, a man of elegantly extravagant taste...

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    Such a shame if they kill the lighting. That reason alone makes me against any residential proposal.

    Is there a way to have both? Extra thick drapes as standard maybe?

    This would easily be THE place to live, over any new projects anywhere in town. One57 and 432 included.

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