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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    The view of midtown Manhattan and the site of "West Side Olympic complex" from Hudson river. On the left - construction continues on 10 Times Square. 9 March 2003.


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  3. #93

    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    Thanks Christian,

    The renderings of the stadium on the KPF site are much more flattering (as could only be expected) than the others I've seen.


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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    I know this posting is too little too late (it's going on right now)... but I'm not crazy about the stadium anyway, right? This is the sort of NIMBY activism I spoke of. From my former involvement in the block association I frequently get forwarded this sort of stuff from one of these Socialist political action groups.

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    > From: "Councilmember Christine C. Quinn"
    >
    > Subject: TOMORROW NITE IMPORTANT STADIUM HEARING
    >
    > Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:17:20 -0400
    >
    > *
    >
    > *
    >
    > Tomorrow, June 5th their will be an important public meeting co-hosted
    > by both the City Planning Commission and the Metropolitan Transportation
    > Authority regarding their proposed West Side Stadium and other large
    > scale development in Hell's Kitchen, known as the Hudson Yards Plan.
    > This important meeting will involve public testimony and is being held
    > in our community in the evening.
    > *
    > *
    > WHAT: City Planning/MTA Public Hearing Re: Proposed West Side Stadium
    > and Hudson Yards Plan
    > *
    > WHEN: Thursday, June 5th at 6:00 pm
    > *
    > WHERE: Fashion Institute of Technology (FIT) Haft Audotirum - Bldg C on
    > 27th Street b/t 7th & 8th Aves
    > *
    > *
    > It is critical that we have a large community turnout to show the City
    > Administration that we do not want a stadium
    > in our neighborhood. The administration is telling people that only a
    > hundred or so residents will be effected by the proposed stadium and
    > development. To counter this falsehood, we need a large turnout of local
    > residents and businesses to show that their are, in fact, many many more
    > people that will be negatively affected.

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    Christy Quinn. The mother of all NIMBYs. Blah!

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    That stadium reminds me of the Port Authority bus terminal.

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    The Port Authority Terminal is to buses what Penn Station is to trains. *It ought to be remodeled.

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    I just had this forwarded to me. If you really want to find your enemy, attend this:

    > From: "Housing Conservation Coordinators"
    > Reply-To:
    > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:56:32 -0400
    > To:
    >
    > HELL‚S KITCHEN/HUDSON YARDS ALLIANCE
    > to
    > Fight the Stadium and Protect Our Neighborhood!
    >
    >
    > KEEP INFORMED! · GET INVOLVED! · MAKE YOUR OPINION KNOWN!
    >
    > Attend the next
    >
    > GENERAL MEETING
    >
    > of the
    > Hell‚s Kitchen/Hudson Yards Alliance
    >
    > DATE: * * Thursday, June 19, 2003
    > TIME: * * 7:00 PM
    > PLACE: * * Metro Baptist Church
    > 410 W. 40th Street (between 9th and Dyer Aves)

  9. #99

    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    Does Housing Conservation Coordinators have a reason for the fighting the stadium??? *It just seems to me that these people want to be heard and to feel important. *

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    The main gripe I hear is:
    It is going to create huge congestion problems in an area that already has traffic congestion problems. I live in this area and happen to agree with that point. I also think that, on the night of games, it is going to attract and undesirable crowd to the neighborhood (see my previous post).

    Other concerns that factions in this group have are:

    The zoning for the neighborhood (including height restrictions) are being/have been changed to accommodate this development. I think that is a positive thing. I'm pro business growth, I just don't think this is the right place for a stadium.

    Among the oposition, there are a LOT of elderly people (little old ladies)... among any of these anti-development groups that are opposed to any kind of change. It's the "nostalgia factor".

    The group that is responsible for organizing all of this is a small handful of women affiliated with the American Socialist Workers Party. They don't put their name on anything, but the core group of organizers are members. They also have ties with a city council woman named Christine Quinn. Mostly they are rabidly anti Capitalist and they see all developers as "Greedy Capitalist" that must be stopped in all their pursuits. It's a bizarre ideological thing. Amazing that they don't seemed concerned about all the "Workers" that are employed by the construction industry.

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    Or the stadium for that matter. *

    I can see how traffic might be an issue, but look at MSG, they survive (albeit on a smaller scale). *

    It's just good for the city - olympics or not. *They'll have ferries, the 7, maybe commuter rails, too. *

    It just bothers me that so many people (or at least so many loud people) never want anything built or improved. *Do they LIVE in a field? *No, at one point, someone built their dwelling, causing increased traffic, etc. *It's just life, expecially in the capital of the world. *

    It's revenue, a bit of prestige, jobs, a draw to the area, and GOOD for NYC. *I keep referring to how great Wrigley(ville) is in CHI. *All the bars, restaurants, activity in that area. *NYC needs something like that. *NYC needs a football team and a venue for major events and concerts. *This is it. *It's on the west side on the water, by the highway, out of the way of most things.

    They just need to do it, already. *

  12. #102

    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    I wish it were in a different location, but I'm not fighting it. I think the Olympics would be a really great thing for New York.

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    Way to expose those socialists Chris! One of these days, the West Side will get one of those "greedy capitalists" as a rep. and that'll be the end if it. I bet the people who used to live on 6th Ave. in the 1950's felt bad that they're pristine neighborhood had to give way to the "overdevelopment" on it now!

    I'd sooner take a REAL development than the Olympics for the next 20 years. New York city's population could be over 10 million by 2020. A new stadium on the west side won't do one bit of good for Water Tunnel #3, the new subway lines that will make just the SAS look like a hold in the ground. We will need, reclamation of the waterfront and MASSIVE *infrastructure improvements including the Cross-Harbor Freight Rail Tunnel, a new and hopefully underground Gowanus Expressway, the rebulding of lower Manhattan, access to the regilons core, and many more that the Olympics will divert.

    I hope for God's sake that we do not get attacked again. Many have said that we lack redundancy in our transit system and infrastructure. I could care less about this stadium on the west side and the city should too. It should be first and foremost concerned with redundancy in our transit facilities and leave the free-market up to putting a stadium there. It's time to plan for the future correctly, rezone the west side, and get to more pressing issues!

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    Quote: from JerzDevl2000 on 3:26 pm on June 19, 2003
    It should be first and foremost concerned with redundancy in our transit facilities and leave the free-market up to putting a stadium there.
    Actually, the free market is going to be putting up the cost of the stadium itself. *That was announced when the plans were unveiled. *That's better than a lot of cities (Seattle in particular) where the public pays for multiple sports stadiums for private sports clubs.

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    Default Bloomberg: *new stadium for Manhattan's Westside

    If this stadium turns out to be for the Jets only and not just for the Olympics, then I seriously doubt that Robert Wood Johnson IV (a.k.a. "Woody" Johnson) would put up all of the money for this. He's worth billions and could easily foot most or all of the bill.

    It's a shame, most of the Jet fans are on Long Island, and there's a lot of room next to Shea. Am I missing something?

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