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    Default Tall Tower Near Ground Zero Is Proposed - 90 Stories

    Another quicky


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    Great shot!

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    That tower certainly looks great superimposed in that photo. *I hope it gets built. *Maybe the conomy will turn around and a there will be a marker for such tall buildings.

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    It doesn't seem so slender from that angle.
    The location is perfect for a building of that size.

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    Agreed. *Quite a wonderful rendering. *I really hope that this building is constructed; so far the NIMBYs haven't protested.

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    I think that area is purely a business district, with no real residential buildings to speak of. *The NIMBYs just don't live there, fortunately. *The only noise I can think of could come from the business owners on the site, but their buildings are likely to be condemned anyway.

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    Well, Battery Park City is pretty close, and I know a lot of nearby Class-B buildings (such as the Park Row Building) have been either partially or completely converted into apartments. *The Financial District has a small residential population in comparison to the huge amount of office workers (about 15,000 to 300,000, I believe), but it's growing steadily.

    As for the present owners of the property, I'd assume that some would be a bit adamant about being evicted. *As far as I've heard, nothing there is landmarked, but one or two have been selected for consideration. *The worst that could happen, IMHO, is if one of those owners successfully lobbies for landmark designation.

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    NY Times...

    Developer Stalks His Prize in the Wilds Downtown

    By ROBIN FINN

    FIRST, and second, impressions indicate that Trevor Davis, who last week announced a bold plan to erect Manhattan's second-tallest skyscraper just a block from the ghost of the twin towers, really likes his trophies. And they don't necessarily have to be buildings.

    Unless the lions, leopards and polar bears in that photo montage in his office are playing possum, he evidently moonlights as the last of the great white hunters. No wonder Teddy Roosevelt is a big hero, and we're not talking presidential acumen, we're talking bagging big game and carrying a big gun.

    That much is obvious even before the gentlemanly developer, bear-size himself, makes a jaunty entrance — Mr. Davis, 48, retains his South African speech mannerisms and accompanies bone-rattling handshakes with a crisp "Cheers" coming or going — and settles down at a red lacquer conference table at 400 Park Avenue.

    Everybody already knows big urban developers like to leave big urban footprints. Mr. Davis, who builds luxury East Side residential towers with a penthouse-for-everyone persona, is no exception.

    "I don't get egotistical about it, but I've been fortunate enough to be able to say I've left my mark on New York City," he says, riding the fence between modesty and its opposite.

    He's not done making his mark. And unlike some developers, he does it without stamping his name on his creations. "It's too vain, putting your name on a building," he demurs. "I don't even like to buy things that have labels on them."


    First things first. Did he kill his co-stars in those safari photos or are they just tranquilized?

    Mr. Davis pours all 6 feet 4 1/2 inches of himself into a semi-apologetic shrug and rakes a hand through the front of his bristly, graying hairdo, which sticks up skyscraper straight. Or perhaps it got that way from the shock of being charged by a lion while on safari in Zimbabwe last year. It was, he says, an old lion, one ripe for legal culling; he does not kill young animals, "just the lonely old guys whose best years are behind them." Pays for the privilege. Mr. Davis tracked this particular king of beasts three days before it turned the tables and confronted him; so he shot it. Same thing happened with an elephant, a bull so massive Mr. Davis recalls his trusty guide turning tail and running. But not Mr. Davis.

    "Survival is the point of business and of life, and I've kind of applied the fundamentals of what I learned from hunting to the way I do business; not so much the kill part," he says, with a conspiratorial chuckle, "but about taking in everything in the environment around you. You develop a sixth sense, sort of."

    The odd woven bracelet on his wrist is all that's left of the elephant. Its meat fed scores of hungry villagers. The hair of his bracelet came from its tail. "A trophy," he says and chuckles.

    As regards his less furry trophies, these walls are papered with so many mock-ups of skyscrapers — prime among them First New York Place, the $680 million, 90-story retail-office-luxury-living complex he has proposed for downtown, at Broadway and Fulton Streets — that the room has the feel of a single-theme art gallery. Skyscrapers are us.

    That's the mantra of RFR Davis, the collaboration between Mr. Davis and two German-born entrepreneurs, Aby Rosen and Michael Fuchs. They teamed up in 1995 when he bought his first plot, a white elephant at 64th Street and Second Avenue, for $2.5 million.

    After decorating the Upper East Side with a dozen swank residential destinations like the Impala, the Seville and the Empire, and creating 425 Fifth Avenue, a tower he calls a sister to the Chrysler and Empire State Buildings, he has seen the future — and it is downtown.

    "We've always been long-term players, and there's no question there's a market developing downtown that's going to be very different in 5, 7, 10 years' time than what's there today, and as long as people can get over what's there today, it's going to be a pretty exciting place," he says.

    HE insists tomorrow's New Yorkers won't be superstitious about living in a downtown skyscraper. "People have a great propensity in this city to forget bad things quickly," he says. "Well, not forget, but to recover; I don't see downtown being some somber mausoleum."

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    Default Tall Tower Near Ground Zero Is Proposed - 90 Stories

    well i think it is hideous ... the height is the only good thing about it.

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    Those pics were made by Just Rich, they are not of the actual building, only a rough approximation of its shape, not detailing or facade.

    So, I think its too soon to say it hideous yet.

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    Are you talking about the shape or the color? *I like the slightly pyramidal shape, and I think the final product will not be drab grey. *If its skin is anything like the Seville or 425 5th, it could be very interesting.

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    Default Tall Tower Near Ground Zero Is Proposed - 90 Stories

    Right - the rendering had it plain white with no details. We have no idea what the color, texture, or even what the real shape will be. What we do know is that a building that tall would look great in that location.

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    Quote: from Eugenius on 11:12 am on Nov. 21, 2002
    If its skin is anything like the Seville or 425 5th, it could be very interesting.
    You mean retro ?
    Hopefully it'll be futuristic.

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    There's a picture in the Times with him and renderings on the wall. Only one of the renderings of 1NYP is visible, though barely.

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    cool...

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