Barclay Tower @ 10 Barclay Street - by Costas Kondylis

**TREPYE** · August 1st, 2006, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by lofter1

Through my tears I'm counting ~ 48 floors, too.

From 6th Ave near Spring looking south the upper floors are screaming out across downtown.

From my window a bit farther east I can see the the upper floors have now reached the bottom of the crown of the Transportation Building. Luckily from this vantage point it is wedged between other buildings and barely invades my view of the Woolworth.

Damn Lofter you are taking this one pretty badly. How are you going to cope when they build the Beekman tower??

**LeCom** · August 1st, 2006, 05:33 PM

This one's for you Lofter

**krulltime** · August 1st, 2006, 05:44 PM

^ Well at least the new World Trade Center buildings will hide this thing.

**lofter1** · August 1st, 2006, 09:35 PM

LeCom: >>OUCH<<

Beekman will bug me from some angles, but not like this one ...

Transporation Building (225 Broadway) is listed at DOB as being 450'.

It will be completely dwarfed by this 600' POS.

Imagine the view from City Hall Park seeing this thang looming up behind the TB

I just consider myself lucky to have seen NYC at a certain point in time ...

And why doesn't somebody do something about that horrible thang over / behind Century 21 (the one with the stripes at the right above) ????????

**pianoman11686** · August 1st, 2006, 09:39 PM

I think we'll just have to hope and pray that some better buildings eventually come down the line and return the favor to these kinds of monstrosities by blotting them out.

**LeCom** · August 1st, 2006, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by lofter1

Imagine the view from City Hall Park seeing this thang looming up behind the TB

Actually that's the one angle from which the tower is barely visible at all.

**lbjefferies** · August 1st, 2006, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by krulltime

^ Well at least the new World Trade Center buildings will hide this thing.

Wouldn't this have been the view through the trees, over the memorial and Calatrava station, that would have included the Woolworth Building into at least one view of the new World Trade Center. Now it will be completely obscured. Tragic tragic tragic tragic

And according to pianoman, this is the same guy who created the disaster across from Lincoln Center. I really want to beat this guy up.

**pianoman11686** · August 1st, 2006, 10:47 PM

Don't know if the architect's the same, but Glenwood is in fact responsible for this tower, as well as the one across from Lincoln Center (name: The Grand Tier). Someone mentioned earlier that they put up 2 Gold Street; that was Rockrose. And while that one stinks, Glenwood put up Liberty Plaza (which is arguably worse) right around the same time.

I know Costas isn't very good, but even he's often better than this. Glenwood's got to be one of the worst "luxury" developers in the city.

**Peakrate212** · August 1st, 2006, 11:27 PM

Lenny - time to retire already.

how old are you?

**krulltime** · August 2nd, 2006, 12:00 AM

I mean why can't this building been much shorter? I just don't get it. No consideration in good architecture or respect for other great architecture for that matter.

**LeCom** · August 2nd, 2006, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by krulltime

I mean why can't this building been much shorter? I just don't get it. No consideration in good architecture or respect for other great architecture for that matter.

But they have respect for milking a site for all the cash they could get.

**lofter1** · August 2nd, 2006, 10:24 AM

Re: View from City Hall Park

Originally Posted by LeCom

Actually that's the one angle from which the tower is barely visible at all.

But this one is going up another 150' -- methinks the crown of the TB will be lost against the bank of mini-bay windows rising behind it

And who knows what kind of "top" they'll put on this thang to try and hide the water tanks / mechanicals .... probably some boxy crud made of pre-constructed "stonish" panels.

( >> tears begin to flow, yet again << )

**finnman69** · August 2nd, 2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by krulltime

I mean why can't this building been much shorter? I just don't get it. No consideration in good architecture or respect for other great architecture for that matter.

At least give it some setbacks to play off it's neighbors.

I could buy the vertical slab if it was done in a super slick curtainwall to play off the superior masonry neighbors, but to create the lamo bay windows and the in and out precast traingular fins in an attempt to blend in, only succeeds in highlighting how bad and out of place this building really is.

**BPC** · August 2nd, 2006, 10:46 AM

I agree that this building would have been fine if not for the top 20 floors. Then it just would have been lost in the crowd. There is nothing wrong with background buildings, but they should stay in the background.