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    Pfizer pulled out?


    so there will be no tall buildings on the con ed site?


    DAMN

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    Just because Pfizer pulled out doesnt mean there are to be no tall buildings. If a developer can concievalby build a tall tower it will.

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    Pfizer never pulled out, the project is still in the approvals process. Any potential Pfizer (or other) commercial tower plans are a year or two away.

    Any speculation on building heights is also ridiculous, the FAR (Floor Area Ratio) has not been established. In fact, the project has not completed ULURP (Uniform Land Use Procedure). Nothing is definitive until ULURP is completed. Nothing has publicly been released, because the building envelopes have not been established. You might start hearing things before the year ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASchwarz
    Pfizer never pulled out, the project is still in the approvals process. Any potential Pfizer (or other) commercial tower plans are a year or two away.

    Any speculation on building heights is also ridiculous, the FAR (Floor Area Ratio) has not been established. In fact, the project has not completed ULURP (Uniform Land Use Procedure). Nothing is definitive until ULURP is completed. Nothing has publicly been released, because the building envelopes have not been established. You might start hearing things before the year ends.
    Thank you.

    PHLGUY, speculation was no reason to reopen discussions.

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    "Meanwhile, Solow has brought in Richard Meier to work with Skidmore Ownings Merrill on the designs for his Waterside project on the Con Ed site along First Avenue."

    http://www.nypost.com/realestate/comm/41035.htm

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    Ahhh, now that good news, i like Skidmore and Ownings....classic architecture

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    ^not quite.
    Let's see how SOM will influence Meier's initial design which wasn't too great to begin with. In short it was twin residential towers about 90 stories each with a sky bridge connecting them at the 60th floor.

    Richard Meier and Partner

    http://www.richardmeier.com/02_Projects_Chrono_Text.htm

    The Richard Meier and Partners Residential Towers are located at the center of the waterside site in tight juxtaposition as a pair. Although the two towers are identical, they are staggered in position, with one facing west to the city and the other facing the East River and Queens. A dramatic elevated bridge connects the two towers 60 stories up providing a large multi-use communal space with spectacular views. An opaque and translucent armature wraps three sides of each tower to provide a variety of possible terrace and unit combinations. These two screens anchor the glass towers to the site, in dialogue with one another and to the other surrounding towers. The interplay and relationship between layers of opaque, translucent, and transparent curtain walls with changing light brings the architecture of the towers to life. The shear curtain walls are further engaged by translucent double-height communal spaces at intervals along the height of the building that house such amenities as a gymnasium, nursery or cafe. The floor plans are flexible but are optimal at four units per floor allowing all apartments to be corner units for sweeping views and maximum light exposure.The site is flat from west to east at 685 First Avenue and begins to slope up gently from the Neighborhood Park at First Avenue through the ground plane and lobby levels of the towers and meanders up to the surrounding Public Park at the river edge. Ramps, stairs and elevators provide connection to the lower esplanade along the river. At the 685 First Avenue site a stair, elevator and bridge are proposed for connection to the raised level of Tudor City.The surrounding Public Park slopes up gently north to south from grade at 42nd Street to a promontory over the FDR Drive at 38th street. This tilted plane forms the Public Park along the river edge. As First Avenue slopes down north to south, the increasing height difference relative to The Park by 38th Street provides natural street frontage for retail. Creases and unfolding of the ground plane of the park as well as step-ramps and stairs promote movement through the site. The ground plane engages the towers of the Waterside site in a variety of layered conditions providing convenient access to the Public Park as well as clear separation of functions of retail and parking for the residents and the public.
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    I can't believe it's been a year since the last meeting.... if anyone's interested in hearing what's going on with the site, this is a meeting being run by the group that's running the opposition to the development on the site.


    EAST MIDTOWN COALITION FOR SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT

    NOTICE OF ANNUAL MEETING
    MONDAY, MARCH 14, 2005 at 7:00 p.m.
    NYU MEDICAL SCHOOL
    AUDITORIUM “ALUMNI - B” (STREET LEVEL)
    550 First Avenue (Between East 30th and East 33rd Streets)

    Bring a picture ID – NYU requires it!

    * The latest news on the struggle over the future of the Con Ed site
    * The amazing tangle with the U.N., the State Legislature, City Hall even the U.S. Congress
    * How we’re stepping up the fight
    * Your ideas added to the mix

    Election of the Board of Directors will follow the discussion
    Last edited by Deimos; February 28th, 2005 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Fixed a formatting issue

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    The big question will the developers or their representatives be there?

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    Stern,

    At last year's meeting it was a buch of geris and nobody from con-ed or the UN. Besides myself, i saw just 3 other people in the room out of maybe 100 that were under 60, and the vast majority were definitely retired. It was at least interesting to sit and listen to what the opposition was saying first-hand. I didn't know enough to speak up last time, but this time should be different (unless i'm dumbfounded by how anti-development they are.... there was a gasp in the crowd when the 90-story building was mentioned)

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    People in their 60's now were the activists of the 1960's. They know how to organize, make noise, and get things done. There has to be a convincing argument made to them that a residential or mixed use building is preferential to an Electrical Power Plant.

    It's such an ugly little stretch of First Ave. There are these big residential buildings, but no sense of community or connection between them. It's Institutional Row. (Oh,and add the Corinthian to the list of buildings I'd move into in a snap if they said here's a 3 bedroom at $1500/month.)

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    To quote Time Out New York:

    Murray Hill

    "The name Murray just sounds old, like a 70-year-old Jewish uncle who lives upstate. And sure enough, this neighborhood in the wasteland below Midtown East isn't the youngest, most energetic in the world."

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    There's a pretty big hole at 708... I don't think it'll be refilled.

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    Quote: Ahhh, now that good news, i like Skidmore and Ownings....classic architecture

    I would have to disagree, more like safe and boring.

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    Are those 90 floor towers likely to happen?

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