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    Quote Originally Posted by JD
    To reiterate a point I made earlier in this thread: there is NO WAY towers anywhere close to that size are going to be built in those parcels. I would happily stand corrected, so go ahead, tell me I'm wrong.

    OK, you're wrong.

    This is a development that has been in the works for a long time, its not new. The towers planned have been virtually the same size along the way. The zoning is there, particularly for the office tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolbster
    HAHA! That was the most ludicrous thing I have ever seen posted. Please tell me that was a joke, how you could have read the post and thought that I confused goldman Sachs with Saks Fifth avenue. Firstly there are in two different parts of manhattan, secondly one is a clothing store and one is an investment banking firm, thirdly, if you read what i wrote, how could you even think that? Shoot yourself.
    Just incase there was possible confusing areas in my post, i reread it and eventhough it still makes sense, I edited it to make it more clear....I still don't know where you pulled that one from.
    Just to powerphrase my post: What i was saying, i wasn't aware of the example of when the proposed Goldman Sachs tower was opposed by American Eagle. Also that that type of thing happens, and i gave an example, and offered a second view on it.
    Did you even fully read what was written?--I hope you didn't if that was what you gathered from it.
    Unfortunately, it wasn't a joke. And while I don't mind correcting people sometimes, as I understand mistakes can be made, I don't appreciate being insulted and told to "shoot myself" for pointing it out. You don't have to tell me the difference between Goldman Sachs and Saks Fifth Avenue, as I explained the difference in my original response. It seems now that you're trying to cover your tracks, but in doing so, you've managed to create an even more nonsensical post. Firstly, I believe the word is "paraphrase", not powerphrase. Secondly, you've stated that American Eagle, a clothing company, opposed the Goldman Sachs tower. Because of your awkward wording, I originally thought that you were describing Goldman Sachs as the clothing company, but apparently you were describing American Express (which you conveniently happened to change to American Eagle this time). Let me point out that American Eagle is not located in the world financial center. Rather, American Express - the Fortune 100 firm that has a credit card division, travel services, insurance, and all other kinds of financial services - has its own building in the world financial center. Thus, not only did you state your original post very awkwardly, but didn't realize the inherent absurdity in saying a clothing store would object to a new highrise tower.
    I was trying to do you a favor in enlightening you about the difference between Goldman Sachs and Saks Fifth Avenue. You've turned it around against me by pointing out my apparent stupidity. But now it seems you've made an even more improbable error in associating a different, singular clothing store with a corporate giant that has its own tower. Congratulations, you've managed to outdo yourself.

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    this thread goes back to 12/02! Here we are 3 years later, any idea when the renderings come out, and when the power plant is demolished? I always hated seeing that power plant on the way to Grand Central to see my family in CT. And hopefully soon it will be replaced by [hopefully] awesome 79+ story towers.

    Maybe the Pfizer building will start being built before the power plant comes down. I'm very excited about that, 80 story office building must be a 1,000 footer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYguy
    This is a development that has been in the works for a long time, its not new. The towers planned have been virtually the same size along the way. The zoning is there, particularly for the office tower.
    I think do hope designs are released for this project in advance of further WTC design, if for no other reason that to show that less chiefs mean better leadership and clearer vision.

    Given the time this is under development, it has been especially effective in minimizing info leaks. The mystery of this project is much more intriguing than the anti-climaticism of the WTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfenn1117
    this thread goes back to 12/02! Here we are 3 years later, any idea when the renderings come out, and when the power plant is demolished? I always hated seeing that power plant on the way to Grand Central to see my family in CT. And hopefully soon it will be replaced by [hopefully] awesome 79+ story towers.

    Maybe the Pfizer building will start being built before the power plant comes down. I'm very excited about that, 80 story office building must be a 1,000 footer!
    As far as I know Pfizer abandoned the plan for a new office building and just consolidated everyone into 5 buildings surrounding the headquarters at 235 E 42nd. The plan for the site still calls for an 85 story building though, so even if it gets scaled back somewhat, it will probably still be of significant height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law & Order
    NYGuy, where did you get those satellite images? Or are they from a helicopter looking straight down?

    Those photos are from the NEW YORK PHOTO ATLAS, a must have for NY lovers. The images were put together in 2004 I believe. But every block in the city is photographed, along with a few surrounding areas.

    I got my copy from Coliseum Books (42nd st) a few months ago, 30% off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law & Order
    So they are real satellite images in it? I was looking at it online a few days ago.

    Here's what it says in the book:

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    We are all familiar with aerial photographs of well-known places, usually taken obliquely from a particular angle and direction to show off a famous landmark to its best effect. This atlas is quite different in concept - it uses vertical aerial photography to create a photographic map of the five boroughts of New York City. This treatment lets you see the city as it really is, not flattering any particular aspect, but revealing each area in its true proportions and each building in its proper place. It is extraordinary how the photography brings the city alive. An ordinary map tells you how to find your way to a place, but it gives you no concept of what the place will look like when you get there. By contrast, this atlas gives you a bird's-eye view of New York as it really is.

    Aerial photography is interesting because it shows a familiar environment from an unfamiliar perspective, forcing you, the viewwer, to interpret the scene anew. From these photographs you will notice patterns that are invisible from the ground, discover surprising links between unconnected areas, find large areas of greenery you never knew existed, and explore new neighborhoods.

    Getmapping was founded in 1998 to make a complete and map-accurate photograph, known as the Millennium Map, of the whole of England. In 2000, HarperCollins published LONDON: THE PHOTOGRAPHIC ATLAS, which proved to be such a success thtat a second edition has already been published to reflect the rapid development of the city. The New York Atlas, as the first companion volume to be published outside Britain, is a real landmark, but we expect toextend the catalog to cover many other major cities over the next few years.

    Keystone Aerial Surveys Inc. took the photography for NEW YORK: THE PHOTOS ATLAS in the summer of 2003 using a large-format survey camera flown at 5,500 feet in a specialist survey airplane. The camera uses conventional 9-inch film...
    Last edited by NYguy; June 26th, 2005 at 03:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law & Order
    Oh, Im buying that tomorrow. I was wondering why it took you so long to respond. Thanks for taking the time.
    It's my favorite NY book.

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    Thats cool that it shows all five boroughs. Ill have to pick this up when I get to NY. Perhaps there is a website anyone?

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    How big will the footprint for the 85 story tower be? if it's like 40,000 ft per floor, then that's over 3 million sq ft.

    Do you think it will all get rented?

    Is there a second office tower planned? How about twin 80 story buidlings? That would be cool.

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    Why thank you Law and Order!

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    One thing to remember is that the community is livid about the loss of the Robert Moses park, and wants to have that parking lot on the west side of 1st ave between 39th and 40th turned into a replacement park. Having a massive tower on that site will hurt the Tudor City neighborhood, as it will block all sunlight into the quaint little parks, however the rest of the plots of land shouldn't impact all that many people. The only unfortunate matter is that 5 Tudor City is the only Tudor City building that has east facing apartments, so the 708 First Ave building will impact some people.

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    Im somewhat confused. Can anyone please tell me if or what parts of this project is getting build and can someone please post renderings.
    Last edited by Johnnyboy; June 30th, 2005 at 09:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex ballard
    How big will the footprint for the 85 story tower be? if it's like 40,000 ft per floor, then that's over 3 million sq ft.

    Do you think it will all get rented?

    Is there a second office tower planned? How about twin 80 story buidlings? That would be cool.

    I think it's zoned for about 2 million square feet...

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    A few shots from the area of development (June 26, 2005). At least two of the sites have been cleared for a while now, with a third one basically a parking lot (below). If there is a tower at this site, that may mean one tower on the site of the actual plant itself...




    And the site of the potential 85-story (we hope) office tower...






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