Page 62 of 93 FirstFirst ... 125258596061626364656672 ... LastLast
Results 916 to 930 of 1385

Thread: Con Ed site on the East River

  1. #916
    Disgruntled Optimist lofter1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    NYC - Downtown
    Posts
    32,654

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by alonzo-ny View Post
    How long do these meetings usually last? I have an appointment with alcohol at 10.
    The important thing is at what time on the evening's calendar your particular issue is listed (they usually cover more than one site per meeting). Sometimes when there are hot button issues like this one they will put it at the end so they can quickly work through the less contentious proposals. Then it can go all night (kidding). But you might want to pack that flask.

  2. #917
    Architectural Padawan
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Turtle Bay
    Posts
    319

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    The important thing is at what time on the evening's calendar your particular issue is listed (they usually cover more than one site per meeting). Sometimes when there are hot button issues like this one they will put it at the end so they can quickly work through the less contentious proposals. Then it can go all night (kidding). But you might want to pack that flask.
    Luckily, this meeting is being held specifically to discuss the waterside project, so it's the only item on the agenda.

  3. #918
    Forum Veteran
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    1,752

    Default

    The New Gold Coast
    BY ELIOT BROWN - Special to the Sun
    September 19, 2007
    URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/62904



    Thirty-five years ago, a rising star on the New York real estate scene, Sheldon Solow, put the finishing touches on an eye-catching new office tower at 9 W. 57th St. The shiny, black glass building, held together by a white frame, has since been viewed by many as a crown jewel of Midtown, attracting top-end tenants and offering an iconic, modernist structure near the southern edge of Central Park.

    Now, at 79, Mr. Solow is embarking on a project that could redefine his legacy: to build, just south of the United Nations, a complex of six skinny glass towers, four at more than 600 feet. It's a development that would change the skyline view from the east and create a new gold coast along Midtown's eastern edge.

    A billionaire, Mr. Solow is one of the real estate industry's more enigmatic figures. His peers call him a reserved and determined developer, a builder with patience he first agreed to buy the nine-acre site from Consolidated Edison in 2000 and a persistent litigator. He has carried on protracted legal battles with corporate giants, including J.P. Morgan and Avon Products, about tenant-related issues.

    A dropout of New York University, Mr. Solow was ranked last year by Forbes magazine the 204th richest American, with an estimated net worth of $1.7 billion. He is an active real estate trader he bought the office building at 20 W. 57th St. for $60 million this summer and has given to philanthropic organizations as varied as the Metropolitan Museum of Art and Jewish charities. He declined to be interviewed for this article.

    With a Community Board hearing scheduled tomorrow on his proposed East River development, which is likely the largest privately owned piece of developable land in Manhattan, Mr. Solow's plans are winding through the public approval process, bringing the man who seems to avoid the spotlight into the public eye for what could be this fall's most high-profile development battle. The plans call for more than 5 million square feet of new development, including upwards of 6,100 units of housing, according to the environmental impact statement.

    In the surrounding neighborhood, the plans have drawn critiques from residents and elected officials, who have criticized, among other issues, the heights of the buildings and the amount of parking.

    Members of Mr. Solow's company, East River Realty Company, have met with local residents and officials numerous times, though the chairman of the Community Board 6 committee devoted to the development, Charles Buchwald, described the interactions as "one-way presentations." Mr. Buchwald said East River Realty has been resistant to changing significantly the density and layout of the project. The project architects, Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, say the building heights have been cut and retail has been added to the plan.

    In overseeing his various residential and commercial landholdings, Mr. Solow seems to devote much of his attention to the legal arena, and has sued his tenants, contractors, landlords, and rival bidders, often pressing appeals for years. While he has won a number of battles, he has seen many more defeats, and judges have legally barred him from further litigation on some matters and sanctioned him for frivolous litigation.

    His supporters say his actions in the court are representative of a man who believes strongly in the law, seeing cases through to their end when he believes he has been wronged.

    "Sheldon is a very principled individual, and at times he believes in protecting his rights and principles," one of Mr. Solow's attorneys, Warren Estis, said. "If someone breaches their agreement with you, and it involves significant damages, it's a prudent way to proceed."

    His critics see his actions differently, calling him a tenacious fighter who will often have a legal bill that is millions of dollars more than the amount he was seeking to recoup.

    "He treats litigation as sport," a partner at Ropes & Gray, Jerome Katz, whose clients have been sued by Mr. Solow over a lease dispute, said. "He is repeatedly sanctioned, but apparently he has still not been sanctioned yet enough to deter him from brining these types of suits."

    Mr. Solow's company sued Mr. Katz's clients, alleging an elaborate scheme was set up to charge him a price on his lease higher than was fair. A judge, Marcy Friedman, threw out the case in 2005, writing in her decision that the causes of action "not only are premised on an implausible, if not absurd, factual scenario, but also lack any legal basis whatsoever."

    In a separate legal matter, Mr. Solow was alleged to have anonymously taken out ads in the New York Times and New York Post that appeared as legal notices to make bankruptcy claims against the chairman of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, Peter Kalikow.
    Peers say Mr. Solow's persistence seems to carry over to his real estate projects, where the developer is deeply involved in the design process.

    "Sheldon has his strong feelings about things," the president of the Real Estate Board of New York, Steven Spinola, said. Mr. Solow "cares about what his buildings look like," Mr. Spinola said, and he has a strong drive to develop buildings with iconic design.

    The plans for the buildings south of the United Nations, with their relatively simple, modernist design, have been strongly guided by Mr. Solow, according to a partner, Marilyn Taylor, at the principal architecture firm Skidmore Owings & Merrill.

    "He brings a very, very modern eye it's the same eye you can see in 9 West 57th," Ms. Taylor said.

    The City Planning Commission and the City Council need to approve the project, and elected officials are pushing for alterations.

    "I have serious concerns about the project," Council Member Daniel Garodnick said. "The buildings are too big, and too dense for the neighborhood."

    September 19, 2007 Edition > Section: New York > Printer-Friendly Version

  4. #919
    Forum Veteran
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    1,752

    Default

    I can't attend the meeting, but I did call this council member's office, who is opposed to the plan.

    Daniel Garodnick's contact information:

    District Office
    211 East 43rd Street, Suite 2004
    New York, NY 10017
    T: (212) 818-0580

    Legislative Office
    250 Broadway, Room 1841
    New York, NY 10007
    T: (212) 788-7393

  5. #920
    Forum Veteran krulltime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Manhattan - UWS
    Posts
    4,208

    Default

    So are these the buildings? What a disappointment. They seem rather boxy and conservative. I was expecting some unique designs.


  6. #921
    Disgruntled Optimist lofter1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    NYC - Downtown
    Posts
    32,654

    Default

    Study Guide for the meeting [pdf] : First Avenue Properties Rezoning Final Scope of Work

    Is this high-rise mesa really what we might have to look forward to?

    Seems they need to go back to the drawing board ...

    More variation in height with at least one big tall tower somewhere in the mix would be far preferable.

    ***
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Con Ed_Zoning_01b.JPG 
Views:	255 
Size:	61.6 KB 
ID:	4855   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Con Ed_Zoning_02b.JPG 
Views:	227 
Size:	29.7 KB 
ID:	4856   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Con Ed_Zoning_03b.JPG 
Views:	211 
Size:	43.0 KB 
ID:	4857   Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Con Ed_Zoning_04b.JPG 
Views:	216 
Size:	36.0 KB 
ID:	4858  

  7. #922
    Forum Veteran krulltime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Manhattan - UWS
    Posts
    4,208

    Thumbs down

    Not long ago, this look more exciting (well especially that tall tower)...


  8. #923
    Disgruntled Optimist lofter1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    NYC - Downtown
    Posts
    32,654

    Default

    Way to go NYC ..

    Dumb it down & F*** it up

  9. #924
    Disgruntled Optimist lofter1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    NYC - Downtown
    Posts
    32,654

    Default

    You'd think that the folks in LIC & Queens who wil hav to look at this crud would be screaming the loudest

  10. #925

    Default

    Ya know....sometimes I think those anime-fans in Dubai are right...that indeed we are "lame", that NYC produces nothing but 600-700 foot drab boxes. Hard to argue we arn't lame when this is the best we can do with "the biggest plot left in manhattan".

  11. #926

    Question Drab boxes

    Quote Originally Posted by SilentPandaesq View Post
    ..that indeed we are "lame", that NYC produces nothing but 600-700 foot drab boxes. Hard to argue we arn't lame when this is the best we can do with "the biggest plot left in manhattan".
    But; why?

  12. #927
    Senior Member Dynamicdezzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Queens, New York
    Posts
    261

    Default

    ^Nimbys helped plenty!

  13. #928
    Disgruntled Optimist lofter1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    NYC - Downtown
    Posts
    32,654

    Default

    Claims of loss of future light / air / views ...

    None of which will be assured by anything alllowable that goes up on this site.

  14. #929
    Forum Veteran krulltime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Manhattan - UWS
    Posts
    4,208

    Default

    Dubai luckily doesn't have any NIMBYs (yet). Must be a developer paradise.

  15. #930

    Default

    Dull, boring, this is all we can do? Midtown is like in a frozen nimby zone with stunted growth and no ability to keep up with developments in other countries and even our own.

    It's not fun watching other cities take all the glory for the tallest and most stunning buidings. There was a time, way, way back, when NYC kept that title for many years, one building after the next.

    Albeit, if it were not for trump, these buildings would all have probably been under 500 feet.

Similar Threads

  1. Hudson River Park
    By Edward in forum New York City Guide For New Yorkers
    Replies: 383
    Last Post: July 3rd, 2014, 05:21 PM
  2. Pier 57 - Hudson River Park
    By Edward in forum New York City Guide For New Yorkers
    Replies: 96
    Last Post: December 17th, 2013, 04:00 PM
  3. Pier 45 - Hudson River Park
    By Edward in forum New York City Guide For New Yorkers
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: July 10th, 2012, 10:58 PM
  4. Replies: 7
    Last Post: April 26th, 2011, 04:09 AM
  5. Third Avenue Bridge - Across Harlem River
    By Edward in forum New York City Guide For Visitors
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: February 10th, 2002, 06:36 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Google+ - Facebook - Twitter - Meetup

Edward's photos on Flickr - Wired New York on Flickr - In Queens - In Red Hook - Bryant Park - SQL Backup Software