So it's elliptical?
So much for the "wedge" of light...
So it's elliptical?
I just love speculating....
Are two billion dollars needed for a PATH station that 50,000 commuters on average will use daily? There was an article in the Daily News that made such a point. Plenty of that money would be better spent on designing a JFK link.
Looks like the Wedge of Light has been shelved once and for all. Was Libeskind's about-face a reaction/concession to Attia exposing the Wedge, or does Libeskind genuinely not care if the wedge is altered?
Well, hopefully, more than 50K will use it. Who knows.
It's more than just a train station.
Exactly, the design and construction of the actual outside structure of the new station is probably a fraction ($600-700 Million ?) of the project, the majority of the money will go towards design and construction of the under ground concourse which will stretch from the Winter Garden of the World Financial Center, through the World Trade Center site and finaly connect to the MTA's Fulton Street complex (which is a separate project).It's more than just a train station.
The beneficiaries of the underground concourse is much larger than just PATH riders, anyone taking a Ferry to the World Financial Center, Subway riders anyone walking around from the West side to the East side of Lower Manhattan etc..
The scope of the project is much larger than just the 50,000- 60,000 (eventual) PATH riders, the concourse may or may not be retail oriented depending on the location etc..
Arrighty then, quibble withdrawn. But I still want to see an actual rail link to Kennedy in the near future.
A futuristic monorail system emerging from a station remotely like the one displayed above, crossing the river and running parallel to the Gowanus Expwy and Belt Pkwy would be SPECTACULAR (and of course about as remote as a weed growing in Antarctica).
Hey hey hey, there's lots of plant life in Antarctica.Originally Posted by BrooklynRider
Monorails are rather difficult to design in a temporate climate, especially one like NYC where everyone and their grandmotehr owns something that the city cannot build on, through or over.
I think we do need to link things a bit better with mass transit and PATH, but how is still a question.
I think one thing that would be useful would be to stop treating NYC as the end point in all transportation. It would be nice if there was some way to get across Manhattan without having to touch it at all (not that Manhattan is bad, but you try going from Jersey to Family/Friends in Queens and you let me know what you think about that....).
There have been proposal for years to run through transportation across Manhattan. The ability to run trains through Penn Station, for example, would give a significant capacity increase. It takes a lot longer to turn a train around as opposed to running it through and turning it around somewhere else.
The different unions in NY and NJ have consistently quashed the possibility.
I like the idea of linking EWR and JFK via PATH and the LIRR's Atlantic Ave branch.
The PATH extension to EWR is in the planning stages, as is the planning for "possibly" building a new tunnel under the East river to connect JFK with Lower Manhattan via the LIRR's Atlantic Ave branch.
Make Lower Manhattan a Mid-point of a line that strecthes from Newark Airport, Downtown Newark, Jersey City, World Trade Center, Downtown Brooklyn, Jamaica Queens and finally JFK.