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    AP just reported Libeskind design chosen...

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    And now is the time on Sprockets when we dance.

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    hmmm...thats funny. I thought the board was actually prasing THINK's design today...Whatever.

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    I wonder what the final plans will look like after the PA and Silverstein butcher his original proposal.

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    I was in shock that THINK was the P/A favorite. I was convinced it was a fix somehow. But I was probably paranoid, or more likely they were of the public outcry.

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    I support Libeskind. However, like Evan said, we'll see what happens now to the design. I predict that the memorial idea will stick and remain in some form as a basis for the memorial competition. However the towers will most probably be altered drastically.

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    Heh, the idiots on the AOL message boards keep calling it "Plan B" because they only read AOL News to stay informed about the competition. *THINK, of course, was called "Plan A."

    "itz official, plan B wuz chossen!"

    I love brain-dead AOLers.

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    Isn't it a bit early?

    February 26, 2003
    Libeskind Plan Chosen for World Trade Center Site

    Filed at 6:56 p.m. ET

    NEW YORK (AP) -- A complex of angular buildings and a 1,776-foot spire designed by architect Daniel Libeskind was chosen as the plan for the World Trade Center site on Wednesday, The Associated Press has learned.

    Libeskind's design beat the THINK team's ``World Cultural Center'' plan, which envisioned two 1,665-foot latticework towers straddling the footprints of the original towers.

    The new building is planned to be taller than the trade center towers, which briefly stood as the world's tallest at 1,350 feet. Libeskind's tower also would surpass Malaysia's 1,483-foot Petronas Twin Towers, the tallest buildings in the world.

    The choice was made by a committee with representatives of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the governor and the mayor. The committee met briefly on Wednesday afternoon and decided on the plan that was favored by Gov. George Pataki and Mayor Michael Bloomberg, according to a source close to the process.

    LMDC Chairman John Whitehead telephoned Libeskind with the news, the source said, telling the architect that his ``vision has brought hope and inspiration to a city still recovering from a terrible tragedy.''

    Libeskind told the chairman that being selected is ``a life-changing experience,'' the source said.

    Nine proposals for redeveloping the trade center site, where nearly 2,800 people died Sept. 11, 2001, were unveiled Dec. 18. The design competition was launched after an initial set of plans, released in July, was derided as boring and overstuffed with office space.

    Redevelopment officials were scheduled to announce the decision publicly Thursday.

    After the two plans were chosen as finalists earlier this month, both teams of architects were asked to revise their designs to make them more easily realized.

    Libeskind, whose original design called for a memorial at the trade center foundation 70-feet below ground, reportedly changed that to 30 feet, allowing for infrastructure and transportation underneath.

    The LMDC was created by Pataki and former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani after Sept. 11 to oversee the rebuilding of the trade center site and downtown Manhattan. The Port Authority owns the site.

    Copyright 2003 The Associated Press

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    Again, great news!

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    That's fine, I thought those THINK skeletons are too depressing to be real towers. Now maybe Libeskind can raise the height of the office towers a little bit...

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    Everytime a see an article begin with a quote of the "1776" feet I can't help but smile as it will make it soooooo much harder for anyone (Silverstein) to back track on it.

    The more the press harps on it as the world's tallest building the better its chances become.

    Expect it to be changed drastically BTW.

    (Edited by JMGarcia at 7:54 pm on Feb. 26, 2003)

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    I smile because its highly symbolic, and as a result it cant be f*ck
    ed with. Im sure you are all aware 1776 was the date America was founded. Every aspect of Libeskind's proposal is symbolic, but the garden tower is his main aspect.

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    I'm pretty sure they chose it precisely because they think it can be modified almost at will.

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    February 26, 2003
    Libeskind Plan Chosen for World Trade Center Site

    An open pit, the crucible where the fires burned for weeks after Sept. 11, 2001, and the hallowed ground that held most of the bodies of the dead, will stand as the centerpiece of the city's effort to memorialize and rebuild following the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, city and state officials said last night.

    The decision came today when rebuilding officials agreed to hire the architect whose plan for the site centered on the pit, Studio Daniel Libeskind, the Berlin-based firm founded by a Polish immigrant to New York City, to design the site, according to people involved in the discussions.

    The Libeskind design was considered the front-runner for weeks, although a rival plan, featuring two soaring latticework towers called the World Culture Center, by an architecture team called Think, collected strong support as the decision neared.

    A formal announcement of the decision is expected at 11 a.m. Thursday at a press conference at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden, adjacent to ground zero. The officials who made the decision, including representatives from the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, and the offices of Gov. George E. Pataki and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, declined to comment last night as they left the meeting.

    While the choice of the Libeskind design made some things clear, battle lines are already being drawn over any number of issues, ranging from the proposed underground parking garages to an enclosed mall and the amount of commercial office space. It is by no means certain how the memorial will be paid for, when the commercial buildings will go up, whether the towers will look anything like the buildings in the design, or who in the end will control the trade center site, the city or the Port Authority.

    Mr. Libeskind's design, focusing on the pit and its bleak walls, sustained a groundswell of support that began almost as soon as it was unveiled in December. The exposed concrete walls of the excavated pit were purely functional when built, designed to hold back the subterranean waters of the Hudson River.

    To Mr. Libeskind, however, they represented nothing less than the foundations of democracy, standing fast under the onslaught of a swift and terrifying enemy.

    The public is likely to hear plenty, however, from the winning team over the next 2 to 10 years. In addition to the worldwide attention certain to be focused over the next few weeks on the winner of the competition, much work remains to be done before a shovelful of dirt is turned at the World Trade Center site.

    Rebuilding officials said this week that further revisions will be made to the plans for the site, which have been put together in little more than four months — an extremely short deadline for a project of such immense scope.

    Most immediately, the winning architect is likely to focus on the memorial area, preparing guidelines for the memorial competition, which is scheduled to begin in the next couple of months. Development corporation officials hope to have a design for the memorial selected by the second anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center.

    Among the issues that will have to be addressed by rebuilding officials is where to locate a bus parking area for visitors to the memorial. Several million visitors are expected at the trade center site each year, and officials have predicted that that they will need to provide parking for up to 120 busses at a time.

    Both of the finalist plans specify that the memorial will be in the southwest corner of the site, within the area surrounded by the concrete slurry walls that hold back the Hudson River waters. That area, known as "the bathtub," measures about seven acres, although some of the below-ground area has been take up by the PATH station, currently being reconstructed.

    Some family members of those killed in the trade center attack have fervently fought to have the Port Authority keep as much as possible of the bathtub clear of any structures. They call it "sacred ground" because that is where most of the human remains were found during the cleanup of the collapsed towers.

    Anthony G. Cracchiolo, the Port Authority's director of priority capital programs, said last week, however, that city and state officials have told the authority that no other places in Lower Manhattan exist that could easily hold that many busses.

    Designs have already begun on ancillary parts of the trade center facilities, including a transportation center that will tie together the PATH commuter line with the city's subway lines that pass through or near the site. The Port Authority has developed initial plans on the station that will anchor the trade center site, and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority has similarly begun the design of its Fulton Transit Center, which will be linked to the site via an underground concourse.

    The selection of a winning design is the culmination of a nine-month process that began last May, with the selection of Beyer Blinder Belle as the design consultant to the development corporation. The architecture firm, with the help of Peterson Littenberg Architects, came up with six design schemes for the site, each focused on a different vision for a memorial park, plaza or promenade.

    The designs were poorly received, however, in large part because of a decision by rebuilding officials to demand the reconstruction of all 11 million square feet of office and retail space on the trade center property.

    In addition, the architects did what architects usually do when creating a site plan: They focused on street layouts, pedestrian patterns and parkland, and they did not try to design buildings. Rather, they represented commercial office buildings on the site with plain white blocks — spaceholders, in effect, for the designs that would come whenever a developer undertook to build the actual buildings.

    The reaction was almost universally negative. In July, at a large public meeting at the Javits Convention Center, the comments included "uninspiring," "too crowded" and "looks like Albany," a pejorative that almost any New Yorker recognized as the ultimate disgrace.

    Rebuilding officials decided to go back to the drawing board, but with a difference. This time, they vowed, they would help New Yorkers to imagine what the site might be. To do so, they called on some of the brightest stars in the pantheon of architecture, and told them that they were free from the strictures that had so hampered Beyer Blinder Belle's designs.

    A new competition was started, and architecture and design firms from all over the world were invited — a contrast to the requirements of the first round, which demanded 10 years or more experience on commercial projects in New York City.

    Several hundred firms expressed interest, and seven teams of architects were chosen for the competition. They were given a new program of requirements, allowing for as little as 6.5 million square feet of office space to be built on the site (although preliminary provisions for the remaining 4 million square feet had to be made somewhere in Lower Manhattan).

    And while the architects were told that the families of those killed would like the footprints of the original towers to be preserved, they were allowed to ignore that if they chose.

    The new designs, unveiled in December at the Winter Garden, were greeted with almost universal praise. When Daniel Libeskind finished the first presentation, of the excavated pit where the memorial would be ringed by jagged glass towers that swirled upward to a towering, vertical garden, 1,776 feet tall, the crowd of family members, architects, city and state officials and other civic leaders burst into a crescendo of applause.

    None of the other designs was as well received on first glance, save perhaps the "kissing towers" designed by Sir Norman Foster. The towers, which evoked the original twin towers, met at several places along their height, and they were embraced by many people who wanted the towers to be restored as much as possible.

    The Think group — led by Mr. Vinoly, Mr. Schwartz, Ken Smith and Shigeru Ban — presented three designs, a tactic that initially left many observers confused about the message the group was trying to convey.

    Almost immediately, however, the group's efforts focused on the promotion of one of the three — the World Cultural Towers, two giant latticework structures with individual buildings suspended within them at various levels.

    The towers were clearly intended to evoke the original trade center, but turned the use of the space over to culture rather than commerce. At first, the design seemed like a longshot. But the intense lobbying efforts of Mr. Vinoly and Mr. Schwartz, making countless appearances on television and at civic forums, produced a growing following for the designs.

    Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company

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    What a relief! *I hope it's true. *On to the next round.

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