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    Can be seen at

    http://www.daniel-libeskind.com/press/index.html?ID=42

    I like them!!! Notice an additional tower has been added that is also taller than 1 Liberty St.










    (Edited by JMGarcia at 11:35 am on Feb. 27, 2003)

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    i like it and dislike it as the same time although i know its still a work in progress, do not like the slurry wall, didnt they say it cant remain exposed to the elements...id rather see a marble wall with engraving of the old complex or somethig more attractive to look at

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    Nice new perspectives! Sometimes that Garden Tower looks like a flimsy pole, and sometimes it almost looks like a real building. I sort of wish he would switch the tallest towers to the southeast corner (Liberty and Church) purely for skyline asthetics. I don't see how that would change things much. Not to side with Silverstein, but he wants the tallest tower there too.

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    JMGarcia!!!! or anyone!!!

    Get to work!!! *Add the Foster towers to the Lots C& D where the two new towers (3 & 4) are on the eastern edge in your pics 1 & 4! *As we know, other architects may design the towers. *Let's show them the possibilities...with FOSTER!!!! *

    SO....add these to the first and/or third pic you posted here and let's get the world's response! *I'm sure it will be WOW! *I will then email the image(s) to the media, Libeskind, Foster, Pataki, Bloomberg. *If the public keeps applying pressure, then taller will be built.

    I'm SOOOOOOOO glad Libeskind was chosen...he's always been my favorite w/Foster.


    (Edited by diVinci at 12:43 pm on Feb. 27, 2003)

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    2 Options have been released for the Libeskind Towers.

    To begin with, there are now 5 towers rather than 4 in the plan.

    Detail Option 1

    Garden Tower - 1776ft at 111 Floors
    Floors 71-109 - Garden, Cafes, Restaurants
    Floor 110 - Observation Deck

    Tower 1 (Attached to Garden Tower)
    920ft/70 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 2
    910ft/70 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 3
    825ft/65 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 4
    760ft/60 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 5
    655ft/50 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 100ft.


    Detail Option 2

    Garden Tower - 1776ft at 111 Floors
    Floors 71-109 - Garden, Cafes, Restaurants
    Floor 110 - Observation Deck

    Tower 1 (Attached to Garden Tower)
    920ft/70 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 2
    850ft/65 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 3
    760ft/60 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 4
    720ft/55 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 200ft.

    Tower 5
    655ft/50 floors to start of slope - slope brings it higher approx 100ft.

    Note that Option 2 has appox 15 less floors of occupied space.










    The best options will give us buildings with heights to roof (a la Citicorp uptown) of 1120ft, 1110ft, 1025ft, 960ftm and 855ft

    This will give dowtown 5 new tallests to roof and 4 new tallests overall.

    They will also be the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 11th tallest to roof in the city with the Garden Tower being the tallest.



    (Edited by JMGarcia at 12:10 pm on Feb. 27, 2003)

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    No more 1/2 circle promenade?

    Did they bulk up the garden tower?

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    Look at the new ground level plan. It has definitely been bulked up a bit and could easily go even further.


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    Glad to see the circular promenade go. *I'm having computer trouble looking at the pictures, though.

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    The website is completely overloaded. Hitting refresh helps or right clicking on the picture and doing "show picture".

    There are 2 new treatments of West St. One is a park a la Foster and the other is a Blvd. a la P/L.




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    Greetings all.
    As a first-time poster, I want to say how gratifying, in spite of all the NIMBYist and megamemorialist bickering in the air, that Libeskind's plan has been chosen.
    Having said that, I'd like to submit an idea I've just had concerning how a twin-tower design can be integrated into the scraper arrangement.
    1. Make the Garden tower separate fromthe adjoining tower.
    2. Juxtapose it and the connecting tower so that the Garden tower is now between the first and second tallest.
    3a & b. Make both towers of equal height (i.e. bring the second tallest's height up) and make the roof angle of the tower to the viewer's left point to the Garden tower.
    4. Give the top of the Garden tower a steeple-top so that there exists an ascendent continuity between it and the angled roofs of the adjacent twins.
    Finally...
    5. Connect both twins to the Garden Tower with Petronas-like walkways at varying levels.
    This way, the visible aspects of the plan can, for still-hopeful Twin Tower enthusiasts, be satisfactorily (IMO) altered without touching the memorial space.
    What do you think?
    Regards;
    J
    P.S. I would (certainly) keep the other three towers, just increase *their* height as well to keep Mr. Liebeskind's "spiraling rooftops" idea intact.

    (Edited by Jay at 12:58 pm on Feb. 27, 2003)

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    Look at that skin.
    Awful.
    I hope they change that.
    (Among many other things).

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    One treatment of West. St. has a tunnel with local traffic above, and the other one is simply beefed up medians and sidewalks. They still haven't decided whether they have the funding or not.

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    Last edited by Kris; October 4th, 2009 at 11:08 AM.

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    Notice the trench along the northern half of the western side of the bathtub. I suppose it allows a full view of that part of the slurry wall.
    Last edited by Kris; October 4th, 2009 at 11:08 AM.

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    Those renderings are great. *They make the Libeskind plan look more sanguine as opposed to morbid. *I like the extra tower because it adds more density especially when there is a lack of an impressive supertall. *Removing the circular walkway was good because the new WTC becomes more pedestrian friendly. *I also like the idea of having a park in the pit, it makes it less gloomy.

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