Reply With QuoteThey are definitely working in there. They will first clean out the whole building then demolish it once they're done, so when the building does come down it will be relatively quick.
I have a pefect view of Lower Manhattan from my office and all of the cranes on the east side of the WTC site.
The crane at Deutsche Bank was very active today.
They are definitely working in there. They will first clean out the whole building then demolish it once they're done, so when the building does come down it will be relatively quick.
I saw it swinging around out on Liberty Island, too.
I just read somewhere that this building wasn't going to complete demolition until next year sometime.
Has there been a change?
Last edited by Daquan13; July 5th, 2008 at 01:28 PM.
^where did you read that?
this current primary source info indicates otherwise:
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/news/...ing_74058.aspx
http://www.lowermanhattan.info/const...et__77170.aspx
Information is a funny thing ...Originally Posted by Daquan13
I just read somewhere that the world will end in 2012.
So what does it matter
Meanwhile blame the locals (since the guys in charge certainly won't allow themselves to be held accountable) ...
L.M.D.C. head blames C.B. 1 for some Deutsche delays
Downtown Express
By Josh Rogers
Avi Schick, the man in charge of demolishing the Deutsche Bank building, last week blasted Community Board 1’s chairperson for contributing to the project’s delays. He also said contractors may go to a 24-hour work schedule in order to get the building down quicker.
Schick, the chairperson of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp., the building’s owner, took Julie Menin to task when the Board 1 leader asked him when he thought the demolition would be done.
“You asked that we not rush things that we not provide incentive for speed,” Schick said at last week’s L.M.D.C. board meeting. “That we let the regulators and contractors do their work as safely as possible. We listened to you, we listened to the community board….”
He noted the community board had passed “at least three resolutions” calling for contractors to finish cleaning the building of toxic chemicals before resuming demolition work.
“Of course when you say ‘stop work simultaneously,’ and add several months to the project, it will probably take longer,” Schick added.
Menin, who is also on the L.M.D.C. board, attended the meeting by teleconference and was not in the room to hear Schick’s long retort, which was unusual in tone for the normally polite L.M.D.C. board meetings.
Menin said she was not suggesting sacrificing safety, but was merely trying to find out what the timetable was. “Taking the building down safely and expeditiously are not mutually exclusive,” she said.
Last August, two firefighters were killed battling a blaze at the 130 Liberty St. building, which was badly damaged on Sept. 11, 2001. After many years of delays caused by insurance disputes, environmental questions and contractor money disputes, demolition finally began in the spring of 2007, but it has not resumed since the fire. The 41-story structure had been reduced to 26 floors when the work stopped nearly a year ago.
Cleanup work preparing for the demolition began again in April, but contractors indicated this week that it is taking longer than they expected.
Schick said the goal is still to complete the demolition by the end of the year, but he was only confident that the cleanup work would be done by then.
At the L.M.D.C. meeting, Schick said he wanted to add a third shift to the project, which would mean the work would go round the clock.
He did not repeat that hope this week at a C.B. 1 committee meeting, where at least one resident complained about late night noise caused by Deutsche.
Esther Regelson said she heard a truck going to the building at 1 a.m. last week, and the same thing happened at 2 a.m. this week. The current work schedule is supposed to be 7:00 a.m. – 12:30 a.m., Mon. –
Sat.
Michael Murphy, the L.M.D.C.’s spokesperson. said the project has an “extensive noise prevention plan” which includes trucks not idling and avoiding using equipment that makes loud noises when it is brought into the building. The-24 hour schedule would be for interior abatement work and the work day is expected to be reduced from its current schedule once the demolition phase begins, presumably some time next year.
Roy Johnson, senior project manager at 130 Liberty St. for LVI Environmental Services Inc, said the Deutsche cleanup is much more complicated than the firm thought it would be.
“We didn’t anticipate the things we’re faced with every day,” he said at the Board 1 meeting Tuesday night. “Our initial schedule kind of went out the window. Until we’ve completed a typical floor, I’m reluctant to commit to a timeline or deadline. This project is like none we’ve dealt with.”
LVI was hoping to have floors 18 and 19 declared clean Monday, but the building inspectors found a small piece of dust and will be returning July 3, said the L.M.D.C.’s Murphy.
“We’re held to a dime standard,” he said. “They said there’s a little bit of dust here, maybe not more than a dime.”
Costs have also risen on the project. Last week, the L.M.D.C. board authorized another $37.5 million, which the corporation hopes will be enough to complete the cleanup and demolition. The board also authorized nearly $3 million for what it calls “document management” — the legal and copying fees needed to defend the criminal investigation into the fire and the civil lawsuits filed by the firefighters’ families.
The total cost to buy, clean and demolish the building now stands at about $280 million. Schick said that roughly half of that will cover the cleanup and demolition, and the corporation expects to eventually get much of it back.
In a 2004 deal brokered by former U.S. Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell — who had also mediated disputes in Northern Ireland and the Middle East — the corporation bought the damaged building for $90 million, and Deutsche Bank’s building insurers agreed to pay most of the cleanup and demolition costs that exceeded $45 million.
This week’s community board meeting was less contentious than last week’s L.M.D.C., meeting, but the frustration level remains.
“I would love to look out and not see that building there,” said Kathleen Moore, who lives next door. “It just seems to take forever.”
© 2008 Community Media, LLC
Information is a funny thing ...
I just read somewhere that the world will end in 2012.
So what does it matter
No need to get sarcastic. I just keep hearing conflicting stories, none of them seem like they have any basis in fact.
When making sweeping statements it helps to offer links so that readers can gauge the plausibility...
Otherwise it's just blah blah
When making sweeping statements it helps to offer links so that readers can gauge the plausibility
Otherwise it's just blah blah
Does this ring a bell? Here's the link.
Page# 264, post# 3950. The WTC Developments thread.
You posted it.
Third sentense down states that the deconstruction won't be done until next year. Tell me if it's just blah blah now.
Last edited by Daquan13; July 5th, 2008 at 01:27 PM.
In the WTC Developments thread.
Last edited by Daquan13; July 5th, 2008 at 01:24 PM.
That's not a "link" ...
Here's the link.
Page# 264, post# 3950. The WTC Developments thread.
You posted it.
Tell me if it's just blah blah now.
It's barely a footnote
Now THIS would be a link, specifically a link to what you mentioned:
On the "official" NYC / LMDC website they're now (as of July 3, 08) showing less specific info:
... On the south side of the site, the demolition of the Deutsche Bank tower will not be completed until sometime next year, at least 14 months behind schedule ...
... The LMDC has not announced a projected end date for abatement work, but Chairman Avi Schick said that deconstruction will follow only once full decontamination is complete ...
Oh, stop it, you know what I mean! Why must you be a devil's advocate?
You evaded the issue. Of course I was right. I only wanted to correct you, which I've done. Neither did I, but it's supposed to be sometime next year.
And here I was hoping you and I were still playing. But nope -- you're all upset. Sorry.
A sense of fun helps around here (hence the otherwise obnoxious emoticons). And any sarcasm is never meant to be taken personally.
But thanks for pointng out the previous statement
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