New Penn Station (Moynihan Station)

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Quote: from NYatKNIGHT on 7:15 pm on Mar. 21, 2003
You mean tear down Madison Square Garden and put the old Penn Station back?

Not necessarily the old Beaux-Arts station, but that's what I'm asking about. *MSG has considered relocating to Twelfth Avenue for a while now, anyway.

[Bennie B]

Great quote, TLOZ! *Hope you don't mind if I swipe the idea * *) if it works that is * *)

[TonyO]

Does anyone have any links to the old Penn Station? *Was it there pre-post office?

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Quote: from Bennie B on 3:07 pm on Mar. 22, 2003
Great quote, TLOZ! *Hope you don't mind if I swipe the idea * *) if it works that is * *)

Heh, no prob.

[tugrul]

You mean links like these?

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%2...tion/penn.html
http://www.trainweb.org/rshs/VD%20-%...tation%202.htm
http://www.oldpennstation.com

Penn Station was completed in 1910, Farley in 1913.

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Cross-section of new plans from oldpennstation.com, 33rd St. on the upper right:

[Bennie B]

They gotta be kidding.

[Evan]

Quote: from Bennie B on 7:49 pm on Mar. 22, 2003

They gotta be kidding.

It's better than whats there now. *

[dbhstockton]

Notice how there's no underground connection to the old station or even the subway!

[JMGarcia]

Isn't that pink area to the right underground? It looks like its under the subway.

[dbhstockton]

That's already there, not proposed, and you'll observe that it does not connect to the proposed concourses to the west.

[TonyO]

Quote: from tugrul on 4:48 pm on Mar. 22, 2003
You mean links like these?

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%2...tion/penn.html
http://www.trainweb.org/rshs/VD%20-%...tation%202.htm
http://www.oldpennstation.com

Penn Station was completed in 1910, Farley in 1913.

Great links Tugrul. *Long time no see. *The huge entrance arch is incredible as was the arched ceiling. *Amazing what they could do in 1910. *

The new Penn station looks amazing IMO. *The drawing of the train boarding area with the Acela bullet train is great to see!

[ZippyTheChimp]

dbhstockton:

What about that area labelled "extension of west end concourse?" *Is it possible there is a connection under the existing building that doesn't show in the drawing?

If you are correct, this is truly ridiculous.

[Kris]

It would be incredibly absurd if it weren't the case.

[NYguy]

Quote: from dbhstockton on 10:16 pm on Mar. 22, 2003

Notice how there's no underground connection to the old station or even the subway!

Look closely at the diagram, the subway is there (8th Ave) and 7th Ave is out of the picture.

Zippy, if I'm not mistaken, that west end concourse is already there. *I only come accross it by accident because it is the farthest away from where I am trying to exit, which is 7th Ave or the LIRR concourse. *I always try to avoid going directly to the main Amtrak concourse because that is the most confusing in all of Penn Station.

It has been estimated though, that only 30% of current Penn Station users would use the new extension.

In other news, I have recently seen reports that there will be "excavation" of original Penn Station artifacts from the swamps of New Jersey where they were dumped.