New Penn Station (Moynihan Station)

[kliq6]

If Governor Spitzer really wants to live up to his campaign ad that states changes starts day one, he would try and move to change how public land use projects like Jets and Penn Station are approved, the fate of every single project should not be controlled by a Idiot (Silver), a upstate hick (Bruno) and any one governor, there should be a panel of atleast 15 people with majority ruling

[finnman69]

Silver is clearly in the pocket of the Dolans, but as much as I hate to see one person controlling the outcome of this project, it deserved to die.

Not only was the scheme a watered down station, it's only a friggin NJ transit station. Penn station deserves to be a massive well integrated and soaring single building station that includes Metro north, NJ transit and Amtrak. It makes a lot more sense to move MSG (not on our dime however), and build a new glorious train station.

[Eugenious]

Where are they going to find another $1-2 Billion for this "new" plan? Does anyone know? I hope they are kidding when they say the developers plan to earn a billion dollars on this. This whole project will make the ground zero rebuilding look like a breeze.

[finnman69]

Even if they build the Moynihan now (which they won't) it has lost all it's luster to me. The only reason I cared in the first place is because I've seen (I bought the great books) on the old Penn Station and really was inspired by it. I don't feel that Moynihan restores even a fraction of the old stations timeless architecture, it's just a box with Doric Columns.

you know, I wonder if anyone has eveb bothered to conduct a feasability study to reconstruct Penn Station more or less as it was. Creating the fabulous spaces accordng to the original design. I can't believe it would be impossible or that astromonical. A lot of the interior could be prefabbed in cast stone. amazing train sheds w/ vaulted skylights could be glazed w/ energy efficient glazing, etc. Perhaps you do a Hearst Tower type design wth a the recreated Penn Station base and a highly modern office tower above. And you move MSG to the Farley site or to the train yards.

[kliq6]

The second plan is not feasible in many peoples opinion. But regardless of whatyou think of this plan, the idea that ALL plans with public money are controlled by three people is just plan DUMB

[Vengineer]

poof

[pianoman11686]

Thanks, Vengineer!

[Kris]

So am I.

[londonlawyer]

...
The smaller tower measures 850' and the taller tower measures 1400' to their roofs....

Although I can't see the renderings, these figures are PROMISING. Vengineer is 'da man!

[Eugenious]

As sad as the situation is... here's look on the bright side. It IS a step in the direction of moving the MSG onto Farley (be in 7-10 years) but here's an early glimpse of what COULD go on the MSG site.

WNY Exclusive. As usual, it will be taken down in a couple hours. Please no quote replies.

This is just one of the many EARLY concept designs by SOM. By no means is this a final design or a render. It's a stacking scheme and just that. But it does show the ambition of this project which aims to fit 7-9 million sqft into a relatively small plot of land.

The smaller tower measures 850' and the taller tower measures 1400' to their roofs. The central yellow area represents the glass facade of the above-ground Penn Station.

Thats pretty interesting, thanks for the glimpse.

[krulltime]

Wow Taller they are! Awesome. Will like to see more details though. But that is interesting nontheless. Thanks!

[ablarc]

Wonderful!!

Hope it doesn't jeopardize your position.

[pianoman11686]

The slant of the taller one reminds me of the Pennsylvania Office Tower proposed by Vornado several years ago.

[sfenn1117]

Thanks for the exclusive!

[londonlawyer]

The slant of the taller one reminds me of the Pennsylvania Office Tower proposed by Vornado several years ago.

I agree.