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    I wonder if it would be possible to do something like this in Times Square... I've always had this fantasy of the first few stories of 1 Times Square hollowed out and transformed into a flagship subway station....

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    Great layout......the rendering capabilities make an early conception look too realistic, though, I'd think the sterility comes from lack of details. In addition to the missing newstands, no artwork is shown and that ought to be there as well, hopefully. Subway musicians too!

    Then add a layer of grime, a few rats, and a stagnant puddle of urine.....

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    Item from A Downtown Express article on the MTA public meeting at the Customs House:

    The only other main complaint, besides the preservationists, came from those who wanted the project to be even more ambitious than planned. A few speakers, including a representative of Assemblyman Sheldon Silver, asked that the new station extend all the way to Water St. so that it may meet up with a future Second Avenue subway line.

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    There is extensive information and pictures in the .pdf files at the bottom of this page about a number of transportation strategies. The commute times to downtown from different areas is especially interesting.

    http://www.renewnyc.com/plan_des_dev...t.asp#download

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    "Lower Manhattan Transit Complex
    The complex will consist of a new PATH terminal on the World Trade Center site and a new Fulton Street Transit Center at Broadway and Fulton, connected by an underground concourse. This grand point of arrival will provide easily navigable connections among numerous transit services, and reaffirm Lower Manhattan's preeminence as an attractive place to live, work and visit. It will also provide lucrative opportunities for retailers and restaurants and will stimulate new business to locate in and/or near the stations. The estimated cost of the PATH terminal is $1.7 to $2 billion and it is phased for completion over 3 to 6 years; the estimated cost and schedule of the Fulton Street Transit Center is $750 million and 3-4 years."

    This sounds like ONE transit center to me...which I always had interpreted to be the case. *The "downtown Grand Central" was what they sold to the public.

    However, the sketches of the "Fulton transfer center" certainly seem less grand than the original sketches of the "Downtown Grand Terminal". *So which is it, two major stations, or one?

    (Edited by tonyo at 7:46 pm on June 7, 2003)

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    The plans are for a terminal at the WTC for the Path, maybe links to the airports, etc. The Fulton Station will be on Fulton St. and will be for subway lines to connect at one main spot. *The plans also call for an underground promenade with moving walkway to go underfground from Fulton to WTC to a new Ferry terminal at the WTC.

    Great plans, they should all go through, hopefully.

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    They'll go through, pending that there's enough money and very little red tape.

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    Architect's Nicholas Grimshaw & Partners have been assigned to this particular project. Yet another A-List architect and another Brit to add to the growing list of architects.

    Tuesday October 14, 2003
    On Track: Fulton Street Transit Center Design Forum
    at Center for Architecture

    A forum sponsored by the American Institute of Architects and the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, focusing on design goals for the Fulton Street Transit Center by the design sub-consultant Nicholas Grimshaw & Partners will follow an introduction of the project goals by the MTA Capital Construction Company's President, Mysore Nagaraja.

    A panel discussion with noted New York architects will conclude the forum, which aims to provide an early opportunity for New York's architectural community to offer input towards the ongoing design of the complex and its above ground presence.

    Location:Center For Architecture, 536 LaGuardia Place
    Time: 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.
    Contact:To register or for more information, contact Virginia Borkoski at 646-252-3108







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    Using google image search:




















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    Impressive list of architects, really.

    Looks like there's A LOT of promise, but I hope we don't have a bee hive or snail family in Lower Manhattan. We'll see. Can't wait to see how Corbin is included in the design.

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    April 5, 2004

    Artist of Glass and Light to Join Fulton Street Project

    By DAVID W. DUNLAP

    The naming of James Carpenter as collaborating artist for the building of the Fulton Street Transit Center in Lower Manhattan is a measure of New York State's aspirations.

    Mr. Carpenter, 54, whose work includes the astonishingly transparent cable-net glass wall at the new Time Warner Center on Columbus Circle, was awarded a $340,000 contract by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority last week to join the architectural and engineering team working on the transit center, which is to be completed in 2007.

    Nicholas Grimshaw & Partners of London and Lee Harris Pomeroy Associates of Manhattan are the architects, working with Arup, an international engineering concern. Mr. Grimshaw designed the Waterloo International Terminal in London for the Eurostar trains to Paris.

    Mr. Carpenter and his 11-member TriBeCa studio, James Carpenter Design Associates, are also responsible for a second important downtown commission: a reflective, multilayered, stainless-steel screen that will enfold the Consolidated Edison substation at the base of 7 World Trade Center, now under construction across Vesey Street from ground zero.

    The design of the $750 million Fulton Street Transit Center is expected to be unveiled in about a month. The centerpiece is to be an airy transit hall at Broadway and Fulton Street that is meant to help bring some visual unity and order to an unruly tangle of subway stations serving the A, C, J, M, Z, 2, 3, 4 and 5 lines. It would also be connected by a concourse under Dey Street to the World Trade Center PATH terminal.

    Not that the M.T.A. would say so, but Fulton Street gives the authority a chance to show off architecturally, in the wake of the fairly ecstatic critical reception accorded the PATH terminal design by Santiago Calatrava, DMJM & Harris, and STV.

    Mr. Carpenter's involvement telegraphs a structure that would involve a lot of glass and other bright materials, perhaps arrayed prismatically to send light rays shooting through the structure. In other words: not your father's subway station.

    "The goal is to affect one's experience of place, by creating these stunning properties of light," Mr. Carpenter said. Sandra Bloodworth, director of the Arts for Transit program at the M.T.A. and one of the panelists who chose Mr. Carpenter, said he "brings to the table a sense of light and a sense of space that complements the work of the architects." More than 200 artists applied, she said.

    His work is concerned with "how light moves across a space, the way it refracts and the way it reflects to create an atmosphere and environment that can be, at times, magical," Ms. Bloodworth added. Neither she nor Mr. Carpenter would divulge specifics about the design of the center. Because the artwork is still under development, the cost has yet to be determined.

    The architecture of the transit hall is to provide an above-ground landmark that will help travelers find what is now a gopher-hole collection of subway entrances. And it is to offer arriving passengers a chance to orient themselves, by looking through the hall to nearby landmarks like St. Paul's Chapel. The transit center will also incorporate the 115-year-old Corbin Building on the corner of John Street.

    Mr. Carpenter has worked with Skidmore, Owings & Merrill on the Time Warner Center and 7 World Trade Center projects, which treat light in different ways.

    The point of the 149-foot-high cable-net glass wall at the Time Warner Center is to be as transparent as possible. Shoppers coming up the escalators from Whole Foods may feel at times as if they were headed straight outdoors, while those looking across the atrium from the balconies may have the sense that the Columbus Monument has been moved indoors.

    By contrast 7 World Trade Center involves a most untransparent concrete base for the Con Ed substation. (The office tower is rising above that base.) To give this massive structure a sense of lightness, Mr. Carpenter has designed a two-layered stainless-steel wall, with panels made of prismatic wires set at different angles so that alternating facets reflect different parts of the sky. At night the cavity between the layers will be illuminated with fixtures that can change pattern constantly.

    One project that may presage elements of the transit center is his "Suspended Glass Tower" of 1997 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Center, a 64-foot-high cylindrical sculpture made of semitransparent glass triangles.

    Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company


    Here, Preservation Meets Imagination - Corbin Building

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    A design for the Fulton Street Station by KPF is here

    http://aiany.org/designawards/2003/projects/proj1.htm

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    That's... interesting...

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    Interesting....yes....
    But I wonder how close that is to the final design.
    The design of the $750 million Fulton Street Transit Center is expected to be unveiled in about a month.

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