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    Patrick Foye, the co-chairman (downstate) of the EDC, resigned last month. Schick was president of the EDC, and replaced Foye on an interim basis.

    The entire EDC should have been shaken out after that thief Gargano left.

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    What's up with Charles these days?

    Not much news on the crafty old F since this tidbit ...

    President Bush pulls nom of Charles Gargano as ambassador to Austria

    NY DAILY NEWS
    By KENNETH R. BAZINET and STEPHANIE GASKELL
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
    Friday, March 14th 2008

    WASHINGTON - President Bush Thursday quietly yanked the nomination of New York power broker Charles Gargano as ambassador to Austria after Democratic senatorial leaders signaled it was going nowhere.

    The withdrawal was announced without comment in a routine White House notice of presidential appointments.

    "He resigned for personal reasons," according to White House spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore.

    A longtime associate of former Gov. George Pataki, former vice chairman of the Port Authority and former head of the Empire State Development Corp., Gargano was nominated for the cushy Vienna posting in November.

    Senate and diplomatic sources told the Daily News that Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, sent word to the White House that with about 100 nominations pending before the committee, a confirmation hearing for Gargano was considered "a low priority."

    His prospects weren't helped when committee staffers researching his background found a February 2007 Village Voice story, headlined "The Magician's Nephew," that detailed some of Gargano's business dealings.

    Gargano said he read the tea leaves and spiked his own nomination.

    "I was in limbo since the end of November. I made a decision. I'm relieved," he told The News.

    © Copyright 2008 NYDailyNews.com.

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    in addition to changing the plan for this project they should change the name. from Transit Hub to Incompetence Hub. or maybe Transit And Incompetence Hub. this project gives me cramps - kind of like a 7-11 burrito.

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    Council frustrated as Fulton subway project remains sidetracked

    By Julie Shapiro

    The work to untangle the subway lines beneath Fulton St. will take 12 to 18 months longer than expected and will not be complete for years, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority said last week.

    This new schedule does not include a plan for the station that was supposed to be built above the subway lines, a project that is on hold after costs skyrocketed.

    These announcements came at a hearing chaired by City Councilmember John Liu last week to find out what will happen to the Fulton St. Transit Center, which is over budget and behind schedule.

    “So many people have their hopes and plans riding on this,” said Liu, chairperson of the Council’s Transportation Committee. “We need to find out what’s needed to get this back on track.”

    In January, the M.T.A. announced that they had received only one bid on a contract to complete the underground subway work at Fulton St. and build the glass-domed station above the hub — and that bid was more than twice what they could afford.

    Since then, the M.T.A. has been working to break that contract up into a number of smaller projects and bid each of those separately. The M.T.A. has not yet put any of those contracts out to bid, and the process of repackaging the contracts is what will cause the delay, said Veronique Hakim, acting president of M.T.A. capital construction.

    Hakim told the Council that underground work would be delayed 12 to 18 months from the projected completion date of December 2009. Using Hakim’s statement, Liu calculated that the work would be complete by June 2011 at the latest. But Hakim and M.T.A. Director of Planning Bill Wheeler refused to commit to that date, which led Liu to question M.T.A.’s credibility.

    “We can’t be specific,” Wheeler said. He said the M.T.A. would complete all the promised aspects of the belowground work, which include improved connections between the eight lines along Fulton St. and new connections to the E and PATH trains at the World Trade Center and the R/W trains at Cortlandt St. The new platforms and underpasses will open as they are complete, Wheeler said.

    “It is not good enough for the M.T.A. to say this will still happen but not be able to give the public a revised completion date,” Liu said, raising his voice.

    “The public deserves to know when big projects, however complicated, will be completed.”

    Wheeler replied that the M.T.A. will have a new plan for the project within 30 days and that it will include a revised completion date.

    Wheeler also said that in 30 days the M.T.A. will know more about what they will build at Broadway and Fulton St., where they demolished a row of buildings after using eminent domain to evict 150 businesses. A glass-domed station, the “Grand Central of Downtown,” was supposed to go there, but it is now too expensive to build.

    Avi Schick, chairperson of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, last week suggested moving the performing arts center slated for the World Trade Center site to the Fulton St. Transit Center instead. The city is studying the feasibility of the move and will announce a decision at the end of the month.

    But the M.T.A. has not ruled out preserving some of the key features of the original plan for the station — retail space, natural light, simpler connections and a building that is easy to see from a distance — while cutting the cost.

    “I don’t know whether that’s feasible or not,” Wheeler said after the hearing.
    Wheeler also does not know whether the M.T.A. could get additional funding for the project.

    The M.T.A. originally allocated $903 million in funding for the transit center, including $840 million from the federal government. So far, the M.T.A. has spent $540 million on work that is complete or underway, leaving $363 million remaining. That will be plenty to finish the belowground work, Hakim said, but she did not say how much would be left over to build the station.

    Liu asked if the M.T.A. could increase its budget by selling the air rights above the transit hub.

    “That’s not really an option at this point,” Wheeler said. He added that there are legal complications associated with selling the air rights because of the way the M.T.A. acquired the project, possibly referring the M.T.A.’s use of eminent domain in demolishing the buildings on Broadway.

    After Wheeler testified, Downtown Alliance president Liz Berger and Community Board 1 chairperson Julie Menin spoke. Both criticized the M.T.A.’s delays and the project’s uncertain future.

    Menin called the glass-domed transit center “one of the rare instances where you actually had unanimity of opinion among stakeholders Downtown…. It would be unconscionable for the M.T.A. to abandon this plan.”

    Several of the small-business owners evicted by the M.T.A. said the M.T.A.’s reassurances sound familiar.

    “We’ve been promised things that are not delivered,” said Ann Kayman, a lawyer representing 50 of the evicted businesses. “It’s very demoralizing.”

    Kayman said the M.T.A. promised in January to have a new plan for the Fulton St. Transit Center by February. That 30-day deadline came and went, and now the M.T.A. is asking for another 30 days.

    Liu released a blistering statement after the hearing, calling the M.T.A. evasive. He said he will insist on seeing the M.T.A.’s new plan in 30 days.

    Julie@DowntownExpress.com

    Copyright 2008 Downtown Express.

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    “That’s not really an option at this point,” Wheeler said. He added that there are legal complications associated with selling the air rights because of the way the M.T.A. acquired the project, possibly referring the M.T.A.’s use of eminent domain in demolishing the buildings on Broadway.
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    This thread was started with high hopes and expectations for something new and exiting.

    It reached a high point at about post No. 38 in May 2004.

    We then went through the sadness of the demolitions.

    Then late last year the disappointments started, and have grown until reaching a new low with post No, 499.

    I despair of where it will go from here.

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    What is this "MTA"?

    It seems to be a mass of non-functioning idiocy, bordering on criminality in it's ineptitude regarding the spending of our hard earned money.

    It does make one wonder: Whose interest is being served here?

    Is this all that we deserve?

    Can we not put it -- and ourselves -- out of its misery?

    Or is the MTA like the proverbial cockroach ...


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    Default It's a typical public agency

    much like any other non profit organization. It doesn't attract the top tier of employees/managers etc. You can see what's happening to the airlines right now. If they were national, this style of operation would continue indefinitely.

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    The problem with public NYC construction is incompetant planners and management, fat lazy unions and miles of red tape including but not limited to the Americans with Disabilites Act and superfluous building codes.
    Last edited by stache; April 23rd, 2008 at 03:01 PM. Reason: Pleas do not use the quote function for directly preceding posts.

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    And how is this different from anywhere else in the U.S.?

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    When behemoth bureaucracies like the MTA fall down on the job, mismanage, misappropriate, waste, and otherwise squander public funds and trust, it is simply seen as an excuse for the very same impotent Peter Principle pensioners to ask for more money, and point scoring politicians are happy to comply. In fact they point to their participation in this rat-hole money toss as effective leadership. As long as exorbitant waste guarantees ever larger budgets to piffle away, why limit the waste?

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    Where is Shelly on this one? Since just about all he is good for is getting money and perks for the financial district, shouldn't he be stepping to the plate here?

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    Pataki bled the MTA and mortgaged their future through bonds for his entire tenure. The chickens are coming home to roost. Add to that they the new attitude of the politically appointed MTA leadership seems to be that the MTA is to be run for the benefit if it's unionized employees and you've got a recipe for expensive gridlock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    The problem with public NYC construction... miles of red tape including but not limited to the Americans with Disabilites Act...
    Please, expand on your opposition to ADA and codes that ensure that handicapped have can travel freely in the city and have access to Mass Transit.

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    Just to play devils advocate for a moment... the amount of money spent on elevators, ramps, and everything else associated with the act is staggering compared to the amount of disabled who actually USE the system. I feel as though those few can simply use the bus system which is much easier to make ADA capable in the first place.
    Last edited by stache; April 28th, 2008 at 03:55 AM. Reason: Quoting directly preceding post. Grrrrrrr!

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