View Poll Results: Construction is underway, how do you feel about the final design for the WTC site?

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  • I am more than satisfied; I believe that the final design surpasses that of the original World Trade Center. 10/10

    50 26.04%
  • While nothing may ever live up to the Twin Towers, I am wholly satisfied with the new World Trade Center; it is a new symbol for a new era. 7/10

    55 28.65%
  • I have come to terms with the new World Trade Center; although it has a number of flaws, I find the design to be acceptable. 5/10

    48 25.00%
  • I am wholly disappointed with the New World Trade Center; we will live to regret the final design. 0/10

    22 11.46%
  • I am biased, but honest, and hate anything that is not a reincarnation of the original Twin Towers.

    17 8.85%
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    That looks excellent, if it all goes to plan.

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    Reuters
    May 22, 2006

    Westfield may be back at World Trade Center

    LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Westfield America Inc. (WEA.N: Quote, Profile, Research) has rekindled its interest in operating a mall in what will become the new World Trade Center in downtown New York, its managing director said on Monday.

    The U.S. arm of Australia's Westfield Group (WDC.AX: Quote, Profile, Research) had operated the 400,000-square-foot underground mall at the World Trade Center until the September 11, 2001, attacks destroyed the site.

    After the attacks, Westfield agreed to step back from the development process but retained its right to be the first negotiator for the retail part of the reconstruction.

    "We would like to be involved, and we would like to work through the process with the Port Authority and Larry Silverstein," said Peter Lowy, Westfield America's group managing director, told Reuters at the International Council of Shopping Centers annual convention in Las Vegas.

    Lowy said he plans to meet with representatives of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which owns the land, in about a month.

    Last month, the Port Authority and Silverstein, the site developer, reached a deal on plans to redevelop the World Trade Center, ending four years of often-acrimonious negotiations over what to do with the site.

    Plans call for a 1,776-foot Freedom Tower, three other new office buildings and a residential tower that will eventually surround a memorial, museum and cultural center. Silverstein is set to build the Freedom Tower, before handing it over to the authority once it is completed.

    Plans also include 600,000 square feet of retail space, 200,000 square feet more than the original World Trade Center.

    Westfield America owns and operates 67 U.S. malls and shopping centers and has 12 projects costing about $1.7 billion under construction, not including redevelopment associated with store closures following last year's takeover of May Department Store Co. by Federated Department Stores Inc. (FD.N: Quote, Profile, Research).

    © Reuters 2006

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    STR:
    Is there anyway that you could squeeze Ghery's project into those tasty renderings??

    P.S. - Thanks a bunch for these - but.... more - we must have... more - (...gets violent rendering-junky shakes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by STR




    The roofs are set at the minimums from the EIS, while the spires represent the range up to the maximum stated in the WSJ article. Assumming the WSJ was quoting roof heights, just imagine the roofs at the spire tips.


    Beautiful. Periodically, the masochist in me likes to look at the old proposals, especially the first set from 2002 and the first bird-cage equiped FT. While the placements of the buildings are essentially similar, I think we are going to end up with something far, far better than those first dreary proposals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentPandaesq
    STR:
    Is there anyway that you could squeeze Ghery's project into those tasty renderings??

    P.S. - Thanks a bunch for these - but.... more - we must have... more - (...gets violent rendering-junky shakes)
    I'm looking into it. In the meanwhile, I've been working on a high detail (as in a level of detail that makes what I've posted so far look like crap) model of the original WTC, Plaza, low rises and all. I've just completed the Twin Towers and I plugged them into the LM model as ghosts in the first image, and an alternate 2005 with the buildings intact, for those interested in how Goldman would have related to the WTC. You'll have to imageine the 7WTC in the latter as I haven't even started on it yet.



    Detail shots.


    In the first detail image, a few floors below Tower 1's upper machinery band, you can see the extra high floor that made the North Tower 6 feet taller than the South Tower. I'm hoping to eventually complete the complex and post as a VRML, as to allow anyone online to walk around it. That's if my PC doesn't choke on the model first. The Twin Towers alone are more complicated than my entire Chicago model.
    Last edited by STR; May 24th, 2006 at 03:42 PM.

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    Great work, STR. Not sure if you have seen this yet, but thought you might be interested.

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    ^Yes I have. There used to be an even better one, but I can't find it anymore and some prick at wikipedia removed the link. Neither have/had the accuraccy I'm aiming for.

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    Very, very, very nice. Re-establishes the classic Lower Manhattan Skyline before Chase-Manhattan came along.

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    Exactly. The Downtown skyline needs to regain a focal point other than Chase Manhattan. I wish I could shave 20 stories off that building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPC
    Exactly. The Downtown skyline needs to regain a focal point other than Chase Manhattan. I wish I could shave 20 stories off that building.
    Yeah man that building (Chase) ruined the downtown skyline. As far as I'm concerned it is in the same class of horrible architecture as the Metlife building.

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    The FT's headgear looks a little too much like this:




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    According to a recent article the other towers will now be 900, 950 and 1000 feet tall. (I don't think anyone actually believed the 1250-1450 figure)


    Could you make a rendering with these heights? thanks.

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    http://www.wtc.com/inner_page.aspx?id=1&news_id=34
    "The Freedom Tower will be the tallest structure in the world—at least for 10 minutes while somebody from Dubai builds a building that's taller."


    Wow, is Silverstein smoking something? How can he still be saying that? How can this be? I don't understand.

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    I'm going with the heights from the FGEIS, which sets the roofs at 1000, 1050 and 1,150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHLguy
    According to a recent article the other towers will now be 900, 950 and 1000 feet tall.
    Can you post it?

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