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  • I am more than satisfied; I believe that the final design surpasses that of the original World Trade Center. 10/10

    50 26.46%
  • While nothing may ever live up to the Twin Towers, I am wholly satisfied with the new World Trade Center; it is a new symbol for a new era. 7/10

    54 28.57%
  • I have come to terms with the new World Trade Center; although it has a number of flaws, I find the design to be acceptable. 5/10

    47 24.87%
  • I am wholly disappointed with the New World Trade Center; we will live to regret the final design. 0/10

    22 11.64%
  • I am biased, but honest, and hate anything that is not a reincarnation of the original Twin Towers.

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    ^Now how many times has that thought crossed between the ears of the multitude of various people moving this massive development ...

    As a practical matter, to the extent any hazardous waste exists, it just can be dealt with via an impermeable boundary - the huge cost of removal may likely not be justifiable.

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    No word yet on how much this "deal" will cost taxpayers ...

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrylStrawberry / NY TIMES View Post

    Church’s Troubles Typify Ground Zero Delays




    St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church on Sept. 11, 2001,
    minutes before it was crushed by the falling south tower.
    Seven years later, the Port Authority and the church have
    failed to agree on a land swap needed for rebuilding.
    Deal on Church Could Speed Ground Zero Rebuilding

    NY SUN
    By PETER KIEFER,
    Staff Reporter of the Sun
    July 11, 2008

    The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is in the final stages of striking a deal for the construction of a Greek Orthodox Church at ground zero, one of the key hurdles that has impeded development at the site.

    The executive director of the Port Authority, Christopher Ward, told the local Community Board 1 last night that an agreement with the leaders of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church for an exchange of land needed to provide the congregation with a new home near ground zero had been reached. The church was destroyed after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when the World Trade Center's South Tower collapsed and obliterated the building.

    Mr. Ward later clarified his comments to reporters, saying, "We are finalizing an agreement and I would expect it to be done soon."

    The inability to strike a deal with the church has impeded the Port Authority from building the 16-acre site's southern foundation wall and finalizing designs for an underground security screening center. Negotiations stalled over the funding for and exact location of the new church.

    Mr. Ward was joined at the hearing by the deputy mayor for economic development, Robert Lieber, the president of World Trade Center Properties, Janno Lieber, the chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp., Avi Schick, the president of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, Joseph Daniels, and the president of the Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center, Robert Harvey, who were answering questions from residents and members of the community board about delays at the site.

    Also on hand for the meeting was the Assembly speaker, Sheldon Silver.

    The president of Community Board 1, Julie Menin, presented the officials with 10 demands, including that the community board and local residents be provided with a list of realistic deadlines for reconstruction, to be answered by September 30.

    Following the meeting Ms. Menin said she was pleased with the candor of the responses. "I was happy to see for the first time I have ever seen since I have been involved in the rebuilding of Lower Manhattan that people actually said no. There were some emphatic nos, and that is the right answer because one of the things that has stymied the rebuilding process has been too many platitudes, and too many unrealistic deadlines."

    © 2008 The New York Sun, One, SL, LLC

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    Merrill Lynch Drops Plans for Move to 9/11 Site


    Ashley Gilbertson for The New York Times
    The World Trade Center site, shown in June, has been much discussed in the years
    since the Sept. 11 attack, but so far there has been very little to show for it.

    NY TIMES
    By CHARLES V. BAGLI
    July 17, 2008

    Merrill Lynch & Company, the financially ailing investment brokerage, has terminated talks with the Port Authority and the developer Larry A. Silverstein over moving its headquarters to one of the new office towers planned for ground zero. The company’s decision is a major setback for the Port Authority and Mr. Silverstein, who had hoped to revive commercial interest in the 16-acre site by luring Merrill as an anchor tenant for one of the four office towers to be built there.

    Merrill was the first private company to express strong interest in any of the towers. Concerns about stirring memories of 9/11 and the long-term noise and construction at the site have discouraged other potential tenants, state officials say.

    With no private tenants in sight, the economy teetering on recession and lenders reluctant to finance speculative office space, real estate executives and some officials of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey say that Mr. Silverstein, who is required to build three of the four towers, may find it hard to raise money for construction.

    The authority is responsible for the other office tower, the $3 billion Freedom Tower, now under construction at the southeast corner of Vesey and West Streets.

    The new problems for Mr. Silverstein also set the stage for potentially acrimonious negotiations with the Port Authority, which owns the land, over his construction deadlines.

    On June 30, the authority publicly acknowledged for the first time that the $16 billion effort to rebuild the World Trade Center was potentially years behind schedule and billions of dollars over budget. Three days later, Merrill formally notified the authority and the developer of its decision to terminate talks with Mr. Silverstein.

    “It does seem to me that events have conspired to present Larry with a challenge,” said Michael T. Cohen, chairman of GVA Williams, a real estate broker.

    After bargaining for months over tens of millions of dollars in concessions and tax breaks for a 71-story tower, Merrill said in its letter that “we are too far apart to continue the process. Accordingly, we wish to terminate further discussions of the proposed transaction.”

    Selena Morris, a Merrill Lynch spokeswoman, declined to comment.

    But Mr. Silverstein’s company and the Port Authority acknowledged that for the second time in a year, Merrill had opened and closed negotiations for a new headquarters for its 11,000 employees. “We wish Merrill Lynch great success and hope they decide to keep their headquarters in Lower Manhattan, their historic home, for many years,” said Janno Lieber, who oversees the trade center project for Silverstein Properties.

    Merrill currently occupies 2.6 million square feet of space west of the trade center site, at the World Financial Center, where its lease expires in 2013. They have resumed negotiations with their current landlord, Brookfield Properties.

    Some officials have continued what they describe as informal talks with Merrill in the hope of reviving the deal, perhaps with the company moving to ground zero in 2018 instead of 2013.

    “While the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties continue discussions with Merrill Lynch, at this time we remain far apart on economic terms,” said Stephen Sigmund, a Port Authority spokesman.

    But analysts and real estate executives say Merrill’s decision had more to do with its financial condition than with the terms of any deal or the delays at ground zero. The company is expected to announce on Thursday a big quarterly loss and billions of dollars in new write-downs in the value of its assets. After taking roughly $30 billion in write-downs earlier this year, the firm appears to have adopted a downsizing strategy, a mix of layoffs and the sale of some of its most important holdings, like a major stake in Bloomberg L.P.

    Merrill has been casting about for a new headquarters for well over a year. Last October, the firm was on the verge of announcing that it would leave downtown for a new $4 billion skyscraper in Midtown, despite far less expensive options at the trade center site with one of Mr. Silverstein’s planned towers, or with its current landlord, when the firm became engulfed in the mortgage crisis. It canceled the move after reporting its first quarterly loss in six years and the first of billions of dollars in write-downs.

    Merrill initially signaled that it would extend its lease at the World Financial Center for at least five years. But this spring, Merrill executives reopened negotiations with Mr. Silverstein and the Port Authority about building Tower 3 at the trade center site. The company’s executives bargained hard for a generous deal.

    Eager to show some momentum for the office towers on the site, the authority ultimately reduced its price for a long-term lease of the land by about 25 percent to $510 million, from $690 million last year.

    But the deal would have required Mr. Silverstein to sell his development rights to the building to Merrill, and his asking price, $340 million, was unacceptably high, according to Port Authority and Merrill executives who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the talks and did not want to pick a fight with Mr. Silverstein.

    Merrill’s landlord, Brookfield Properties, argued that it was illogical for the authority to offer incentives to lure a tenant from one government project (the World Financial Center) to another (ground zero). But authority officials were convinced that Merrill’s deal would help entice other companies to the site and permit them to declare a victory at a time when the rebuilding effort has encountered delays.

    In lieu of private sector tenants, city, state and federal agencies have committed to leasing 2.2 million square feet of the combined 10 million square feet of office space planned at the Freedom Tower and Mr. Silverstein’s towers.

    JPMorgan Chase has a nonbinding agreement to build a tower south of ground zero, where the former Deutsche Bank Building is being demolished. But JPMorgan recently acquired Bear Stearns and it is unclear whether that project will proceed.

    All of that has implications for Mr. Silverstein, who must build three towers with a total of 7.5 million square feet by 2013, at an estimated cost of over $6 billion, under his 2006 agreement with the authority, which owns the land. He has about $1.3 billion in insurance money and the ability to use tax-exempt Liberty Bonds, although they expire at the end of 2009.

    Under the terms of his agreement with the Port Authority, Mr. Silverstein faces default on all three building sites if he fails to build even one of the towers on schedule.

    “We are confident in the long-term viability of the office market at the site, and continue to make progress on construction and to operate under the existing development agreement,” Mr. Sigmund of the Port Authority said.

    But executives who work with Mr. Silverstein complain that the Port Authority’s inability to complete other projects at ground zero, like the adjacent transit hub or the rebuilding of Greenwich Street, will make it hard for him to complete his buildings.

    Some real estate and authority executives expect Mr. Silverstein to demand a rent discount, a deadline extension and, perhaps, the elimination of the so-called cross-default clause.

    Mr. Lieber of Silverstein Properties said in a statement that his company “is focused on working with government to resolve the design and construction issues identified by the Port Authority in its recent report to the Governor, as well as ongoing uncertainties about the Port Authority’s schedule to complete vital site infrastructure. It is urgent that these issues be resolved in order to accelerate the rebuilding of the entire World Trade Center site.”

    Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Concerns about stirring memories of 9/11 and the long-term noise and construction at the site have discouraged other potential tenants, state officials say.
    Well if we keep thinking about 9/11 so much we will never be able to move on from the tragedy. Long-term noise and construction is the only way progress and reconstruction can ever be made at the site. I just find that statement pretty sad.

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    We shouldn't fool ourselves.

    Statements like that just get thrown in. Months ago, a company had no concerns about 09/11 or construction noise while it pursued a lease. What changed?

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    Frankly speaking, this whole notion of getting Merrill to commit now is delusional. Wake the F up and pay attention to what the company is going through.

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    So what about the other two towers?

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    WTC Transit Hub Starts To Take Shape



    July 17, 2008

    A series of recently-installed arches in the World Trade Center site is the first major sign of the planned transit hub’s construction. NY1’s Transit reporter Bobby Cuza filed the following report.

    At the World Trade Center site, a series of arches has sprouted in recent days. It is the first part of the outline of an underground pedestrian passageway that will one day connect the planned World Trade Center PATH hub to points west.

    "This will be a corridor which will connect the PATH hall under West Street to the World Financial Center," said Port Authority Program Manager Saverio Leone.

    To get there, workers will have to blast through the western slurry wall and tunnel under West Street. But for now, workers are busy setting the 47 arches in place.

    Contoured in design, set atop rounded columns, the curved arches reflect architect Santiago Calatrava's vision for the entire transit hub, with its curved forms and a bird-like structure above ground.

    The idea is to create an airy space, and when they are completed, shops will line the north side of the corridor, and the curves will be prominent.

    "That is one of the signature components of the Calatrava design. You'll see them, they'll be exposed,” said Leone. “The concrete slab will be above the arch, or the rib. There'll be lighting in between the ribs."

    Calatrava's original design for the hub was scaled back once because of security concerns, and again earlier this month, when the Port Authority announced the hub's winged roof will no longer open and close.

    But officials say the corridor taking shape here is a sign of progress.

    "It's a very positive step here on the project, because you're actually starting to see what this thing -- the vision, where we're going," said Leone.

    As for the transit hub itself, the Port Authority is still reevaluating the design in order to bring the project in on budget. Originally scheduled to be complete late next year, the completion date has been pushed back to 2011.

    Officials warn it could be pushed back even further.

    - Bobby Cuza

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    http://www.cnbc.com/id/25723238

    Silverstein needs to start looking for tenants in a different industry.

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    Merrill Lynch Move Could Spark Silverstein-Port Authority Battle

    By PETER KIEFER, Staff Reporter of the Sun | July 18, 2008



    The decision by Merrill Lynch to end negotiations on moving its headquarters to one of the office towers planned for ground zero could serve as a trigger for a legal battle between developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

    Three days after the executive director of the Port Authority, Christopher Ward, delivered an assessment of the site that did not include a budget or scheduling, Merrill Lynch, which had been negotiating with Mr. Silverstein to occupy office space in one of his towers, sent a letter effectively ending those talks.

    "We appreciate your candid assessment of scheduling issues at yesterday's meeting," Merrill's letter said. "However, with no further movement on basic economic terms, we believe we are too far apart to continue this process."

    The breakdown in the talks, which was due in large part to Merrill's shaky financial state, leaves Mr. Silverstein without an anchor tenant — an unenviable position to be in if Mr. Silverstein seeks additional bond financing.

    "It's near impossible even in a good market," a real estate attorney, who declined to be identified because he has worked with Mr. Silverstein in the past, said.

    According to a number of observers and real estate attorneys, it is now up to Mr. Ward to extend an olive branch to Mr. Silverstein. Possible concessions may include reworking the schedules within the site's master development agreement to allow Mr. Silverstein more flexibility for the delivery of towers 2, 3, and 4.

    Mr. Silverstein faces default on all three buildings if he fails to build even one of the towers on schedule. All need to be finished for various deadlines during 2013.

    Mr. Ward must also present a reliable schedule for the construction of the site's other buildings and infrastructure, a challenge he said he would meet by the end of September.

    Failure to do so could result in the pursuit of damages by Mr. Silverstein.
    "There is no question that at some point he is going to sue. It is going to be a battle royal, and he is going to blame the Port Authority, the LMDC, and the city," a source who has helped negotiate past agreements at the World Trade Center site on behalf of the state, and who asked not to be identified, said.

    At least for now, Mr. Silverstein is playing nice while awaiting Mr. Ward's more detailed site assessment.

    The president of World Trade Center Properties, Janno Lieber, said in a statement that it is "focused on working with government to resolve the design and construction issues identified by the Port Authority in its recent report to the Governor, as well as ongoing uncertainties about the Port Authority's schedule to complete vital site infrastructure."

    A spokesman for the Port Authority, Stephen Sigmund, said the authority is "confident in the long-term viability of the office market at the site."
    News of Merrill ending negotiations was first reported by the New York Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC4Life View Post
    NY1

    WTC Transit Hub Starts To Take Shape



    July 17, 2008

    A series of recently-installed arches in the World Trade Center site is the first major sign of the planned transit hub’s construction. NY1’s Transit reporter Bobby Cuza filed the following report.

    At the World Trade Center site, a series of arches has sprouted in recent days. It is the first part of the outline of an underground pedestrian passageway that will one day connect the planned World Trade Center PATH hub to points west.

    "This will be a corridor which will connect the PATH hall under West Street to the World Financial Center," said Port Authority Program Manager Saverio Leone.

    To get there, workers will have to blast through the western slurry wall and tunnel under West Street. But for now, workers are busy setting the 47 arches in place.

    Contoured in design, set atop rounded columns, the curved arches reflect architect Santiago Calatrava's vision for the entire transit hub, with its curved forms and a bird-like structure above ground.

    The idea is to create an airy space, and when they are completed, shops will line the north side of the corridor, and the curves will be prominent.

    "That is one of the signature components of the Calatrava design. You'll see them, they'll be exposed,” said Leone. “The concrete slab will be above the arch, or the rib. There'll be lighting in between the ribs."

    Calatrava's original design for the hub was scaled back once because of security concerns, and again earlier this month, when the Port Authority announced the hub's winged roof will no longer open and close.

    But officials say the corridor taking shape here is a sign of progress.

    "It's a very positive step here on the project, because you're actually starting to see what this thing -- the vision, where we're going," said Leone.

    As for the transit hub itself, the Port Authority is still reevaluating the design in order to bring the project in on budget. Originally scheduled to be complete late next year, the completion date has been pushed back to 2011.

    Officials warn it could be pushed back even further.

    - Bobby Cuza
    I've never been so happy in my life about seeing a hall...

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    New York Post

    MERRILL PULLOUT IS GOOD NEWS AT GROUND ZERO





    Posted: 3:33 am
    July 18, 2008

    EMBATTLED Merrill Lynch just took a reality pill and broke off talks with Larry Silverstein about moving its headquarters to Ground Zero. Far from being a setback, it's rare good news out of the pit.

    Merrill's "outta here" can actually accelerate progress at the site. That's because there was no chance the reeling Wall Street firm could afford to buy or lease a new $2 billion skyscraper.

    Now, with the pipe dream dead, Silverstein can go to town building his office towers, as he promised to do once the Port Authority finally turned over the land.

    Silverstein was contractually required to finish Towers 2, 3 and 4 by the end of 2012 (including a one-year grace period) or forfeit them to the PA.

    But when Merrill started playing footsie with him, rather than simply renewing its lease at the World Financial Center, the PA gave Silverstein wiggle room by extending the completion deadlines to mid-2013.

    That was to give him time to redo Tower 3's foundation in case Merrill wanted bigger trading floors than in the current design.

    But with Merrill staggered by write-downs and losses, moving to one of the world's most expensive new buildings was as likely as colonizing Mars.
    Even so, Merrill could have dragged out talks with Silverstein until the cows came home just to squeeze a better deal out of its current landlord, Brookfield Properties.

    That might have prompted Silverstein to ask the PA for another deadline extension, which could have led to indefinite delay.

    Only nincompoops blame Silverstein for the Ground Zero paralysis. Despite endless political and media sniping at him, he missed no deadlines, while the PA dawdled for years in preparing the hole for reconstruction.

    And only Silverstein has replaced anything destroyed on 9/11, with his beautiful and successful new 7 World Trade Center.

    But now comes the moment of truth. He has long said he planned to build at Ground Zero itself, even without presigned tenants, confident the buildings would fill eventually.

    He's already spent billions on material and labor contracts for the new skyscrapers. He's blasting and working deep inside the pit. Now there's no need to redraw foundations or floor plans.

    It comes down to this:
    If Silverstein's towers are seriously under way by the end of the year, we'll know we have a new World Trade Center.

    If they're not, we'll know we don't.
    And at least within the confines of the 16 acres, the terrorists truly will have won.

    scuozzo@nypost.com

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    Don't believe this was covered on WNY. BTW, does anyone know if the WTC Earthcam will come back up?

    Overnight on Friday, July 18th, two lanes of northbound West Street will be closed from approximately 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. to allow Port Authority crews to relocate the Survivors Stairway from its temporary location at Vesey Street to its permanent home in the National 9/11 Memorial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EugeneNYC View Post
    Don't believe this was covered on WNY. BTW, does anyone know if the WTC Earthcam will come back up?

    Overnight on Friday, July 18th, two lanes of northbound West Street will be closed from approximately 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. to allow Port Authority crews to relocate the Survivors Stairway from its temporary location at Vesey Street to its permanent home in the National 9/11 Memorial.
    ...and there she sits........... (source: rebuildgroundzero.org webcam)
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    Survivor's Staircase Back At WTC Site



    July 19, 2008

    The so-called “Survivors' Staircase” was placed back at the World Trade Center site Saturday.

    Crews used a crane to lower the structure into its permanent home, outside the future memorial museum.

    The staircase, which once connected the plaza outside the Twin Towers to the street below, became the primary escape route for many survivors on 9/11.

    In March, the structure was temporarily moved to street level to make way for construction.

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