View Poll Results: Construction is underway, how do you feel about the final design for the WTC site?

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  • I am more than satisfied; I believe that the final design surpasses that of the original World Trade Center. 10/10

    50 26.04%
  • While nothing may ever live up to the Twin Towers, I am wholly satisfied with the new World Trade Center; it is a new symbol for a new era. 7/10

    55 28.65%
  • I have come to terms with the new World Trade Center; although it has a number of flaws, I find the design to be acceptable. 5/10

    48 25.00%
  • I am wholly disappointed with the New World Trade Center; we will live to regret the final design. 0/10

    22 11.46%
  • I am biased, but honest, and hate anything that is not a reincarnation of the original Twin Towers.

    17 8.85%
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    Nice to see that the steel columns have started being installed for the infrastructure of Tower 2!

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    shots from my gopro




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    Smile Polish?

    Dupa.

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    Why didn't he post it in English?

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    He's a Rebel.

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    The barge was out the other night, working on the PATH tubes:

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    February 28, 2011, 1:41 pm

    When 9/11 Memorial Opens, What About the Tour Buses?

    By MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM

    The New York Times

    Some five million visitors a year are expected to pour into Lower Manhattan when the National September 11 Memorial and Museum opens this fall, a powerful symbol of the neighborhood’s newfound vitality in the decade since the attacks.

    But the visitors also represent something else: buses. Specifically, too many of them.
    Residents in the area around ground zero are wrestling with an increasingly contentious question: how to transport all those people in and out, without clogging up cobblestone residential streets with chartered fume-spewing double-deckers?

    With less than seven months until the memorial opens, the city’s Department of Transportation has not yet finalized a plan to handle all the expected bus traffic. And the preliminary ideas are getting the TriBeCa equivalent of a Bronx cheer.

    Under one proposal, buses would be allowed to idle in a wide swath of streets that includes residential strongholds like Battery Park City, Warren and Murray Streets in TriBeCa, and condo-heavy Greenwich Street. The idling zone would stretch south to the Battery and east into City Hall Park.

    This prospect has not gone over well.

    “It’s an air quality concern, it’s a congestion concern: Why should we have all of these tour buses in the neighborhood?” asked Julie Menin, the chairwoman of Community Board 1, which covers Lower Manhattan. “To present this to the community literally six months before the memorial is opening is troubling at best.”

    The complaints prompted a town hall meeting last Wednesday arranged by Scott M. Stringer, the Manhattan borough president, who pressed officials for more details. “We need to start discussing specific corners and blocks now; we have no time to waste,” Mr. Stringer said.

    City transportation planners, who are collaborating with the memorial’s staff, said the bus plan still remained in the conceptual stage. “We haven’t ruled anything out,” said Luis Sanchez, a commissioner at the Transportation Department, adding that the city would present a more concrete proposal in the spring.

    To combat congestion and a bus backup, the city has concocted a ticket-based system that gives time-slot priority to bus companies that agree to drop off passengers off site, possibly in New Jersey or parts of Brooklyn. Visitors could then take public transportation, like ferries or the PATH train, to the memorial.

    The plan would encourage mass transit use and, planners say, provide an incentive to visitors to remain in Lower Manhattan for dining and shopping.

    But the city cannot require buses to sign up for its ticketing system. And the Transportation Department says remote drop-offs would not be feasible for some disabled visitors or groups of schoolchildren.

    Six to eight buses an hour are expected to arrive in Lower Manhattan during peak periods. Eventually, an underground garage is planned for the memorial to accommodate the buses. For now, however, existing nearby options, like garages near the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel, have been ruled out.

    When the city initially floated its plan at a community board meeting this month, it elicited gasps and grinding teeth. Ms. Menin said she had been unaware that the Transportation Department had convened a group to examine options in the area.

    “Every time we would raise issue of a plan they would say ‘we’re working on it,’ ” Ms. Menin said. “It’s not productive to have a working group that’s meeting for months and months without input from the affected community.”

    Mr. Sanchez of the Transportation Department acknowledged at the meeting that “we know curb space is at a premium in Lower Manhattan.” He pledged a revised proposal within six weeks, which Mr. Stringer said he would be held to.

    “The opening of the 9/11 memorial is less than 200 days away,” Mr. Stringer said. “It’s time for the Lower Manhattan community to start asking very pointed questions about traffic and congestion.”

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20.../?ref=nyregion

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianac View Post

    ... The plan would encourage mass transit use and, planners say, provide an incentive to visitors to remain in Lower Manhattan for dining and shopping.

    But the city cannot require buses to sign up for its ticketing system. And the Transportation Department says remote drop-offs would not be feasible for some disabled visitors or groups of schoolchildren.
    School kids can't go via the subway?

    Make exceptions for those with real disabilities. Otherwise keep the busses parked at the PATH Station in Jersey.

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    Dude: You're overdoing it.

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    What did I miss?

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    Lots of repeat linked posts in various threads that have now disappeared.

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    East-West Connector

    Cutting out the secant wall

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    What do you mean they disapeared. How did they disappear? And what disappeared?

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    Either the poster removed them or (perhaps) a Mod did a bit of cleaning.

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