View Poll Results: Construction is underway, how do you feel about the final design for the WTC site?

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  • I am more than satisfied; I believe that the final design surpasses that of the original World Trade Center. 10/10

    50 26.46%
  • While nothing may ever live up to the Twin Towers, I am wholly satisfied with the new World Trade Center; it is a new symbol for a new era. 7/10

    54 28.57%
  • I have come to terms with the new World Trade Center; although it has a number of flaws, I find the design to be acceptable. 5/10

    47 24.87%
  • I am wholly disappointed with the New World Trade Center; we will live to regret the final design. 0/10

    22 11.64%
  • I am biased, but honest, and hate anything that is not a reincarnation of the original Twin Towers.

    16 8.47%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staten Island Love View Post
    I've been reading for a long time and I never really cared to post anything.
    Then you won't mind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staten Island Love View Post

    I was actually looking to remove myself, that's why I deleted all my posts.
    Once you get on board WNY you're here for eternity.

    Not possible to remove your presence deep inside the WNY machine (although a Mod could probably do that).

    The other option is just to stop posting and continue reading.

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    ^
    Don't think this is some sort of license for you to continue in the same manner.

    The criticism of your posts by others isn't without merit. I'm getting annoyed with all the PMs I get (from you and others), and having to chase down all these little arguments. When several people are complaining about you, maybe some of it is your fault.

    There's no need to respond to every post, especially when it's a question and you don't know the answer.

    There's no need to respond to this post, either. Just take the advice.

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    Aye aye, Sir

    (I know, I know ...)

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    That "^" was directed at a post that was later deleted.

    I can't tell if you already knew that and it's just sarcasm. I think I'll put it back so it makes sense, and go read something else.

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    [i knew that]

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    wtc.com
    October 12, 2011

    WTC Construction Updates, October 2011

    By LMCCC

    4 World Trade Center

    Concrete core wall complete up to the 34th Floor. Steel erection up to the 53rd Floor and will be at the 56th floor at the end of the month. The curtain wall installation is currently on the 17th floor of the building.

    3 World trade Center

    Formwork and rebar at the eastern portion of the core walls are on the 2nd and 3rd Floor. Continue scaffolds with decking platforms for the B2 slab on the north and west sides.

    2 World Trade Center

    Core and perimeter steel are up to street level. Rebar is being placed for the core walls at the B1-ground level and the B1M slab level.

    1 World Trade Center

    Steel is currently at the 83nd floor, 1000 feet above grade. Curtain wall is up to the 58th Floor and the application of fireproofing is complete on the 65th floor.

    9/11 Memorial and Museum

    The structural steel contractor is substantially complete in the Pavilion and the installation of duct and piping throughout the Pavilion is currently underway.

    © 2011 Silverstein Properties, Inc.

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    Excellent update, although I was under the impression that 1 was up to the 86th. Wtc.com cleared it up at least.

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    New York Post
    October 17, 2011

    EXCLUSIVE

    PA chief blowing bucks on G. Zero

    Fredric U. Dicker


    'The economics of this are going to be terrible for New York for decades to come as the bills keep coming in.' - A source, on Ground Zero spending by PA chief Chris Ward (above)

    Hundreds of millions of dollars in “unnecessary spending’’ were authorized by outgoing Port Authority Executive Director Chris Ward to accelerate the rebuilding of Ground Zero, an explosive new audit will show.

    The audit, ordered by Gov. Cuomo, found Ward engaged in “extravagant overspending” after he was named head of the bi-state agency by then-Gov. David Paterson in May 2008 in an effort to step up the rebuilding in time for the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, a source close to the Cuomo administration told The Post.

    “There is no doubt Ward got a lot of the construction going, and that he has a network of people he’s pleased as a result, but at what cost?” the source said.

    “But you can’t credit Ward with accelerating the construction without holding him liable for the bill. The economics of this are going to be terrible for New York for decades to come as the bills keep coming in.”

    A second source said Ward was “more concerned about what Mayor Bloomberg thought of the reconstruction timetable than he was about the cost to the state he was supposed to be working for.”

    Cuomo plans to replace Ward within the next few weeks.

    While Cuomo’s deputy secretary for economic development, Patrick Foy, is widely seen as the leading contender, an administration source insisted that others were still under consideration.

    The PA audit is expected to be made public within the next few weeks.

    Copyright 2011 NYP Holdings, Inc. All rights reserved.
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    Downtown Express
    October 19, 2011

    Port, Silverstein say W.T.C. construction is on track

    BY ALINE REYNOLDS

    Construction at the World Trade Center is forging ahead as planned. That was the message the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and Silverstein Properties conveyed at the Community Board 1 W.T.C. Redevelopment Committee meeting on Monday, Oct. 17.

    “There was a great deal of coordination [involved] for the success of the opening of the 9/11 Memorial on the 10th anniversary,” said Quentin Brathwaite, the Port Authority’s assistant director of W.T.C. construction. “With those dates behind us, the Port Authority has continued its renewed focus to the perimeter of the site.”

    One W.T.C., which is slated to be topped out sometime next spring, is now 86 floors high. With close to 1,000 workers on the project, the building, Brathwaite said, has become a “city within a city.”

    “What’s really amazing is that the building is really commanding even more of a presence in the community,” said Brathwaite. “From almost every vantage point, you see the tower rising — not only from within Community Board 1, but as far west as New Jersey and as far east as Queens and Brooklyn.”

    The Port Authority is completing foundation work in the area just north of Cedar Street for the future Vehicle Security Center, which is set to open in 2013. Installation of the steel for the V.S.C. is underway, as is the continued excavation of the 130 Liberty St. site.

    “The removal of the soil will lead to the construction activity where we will blast in the vicinity of the [Number One subway line] box,” said Brathwaite — an endeavor that will require a great deal of coordination with the Metropolitan Transit Authority.

    Meanwhile, below-grade work for the W.T.C. Transportation Hub is also underway without interruptions to the temporary PATH station, Brathwaite noted. The transit center, once completed, will be roughly the size of three football fields.

    The building’s interior is congruent architecturally with its glass-and-steel “wings” exterior, according to Brathwaite.

    “The choice of Santiago [Calatrava] as an architect for this project is so fitting,” he said, “because his building above grade really embodies the sense of freedom that’s associated with the doves and wings in flight.”

    The transition from one subway platform to the next will be seamless, Brathwaite assured. “

    With respect to Route 9a, the Port Authority plans to make an “appropriate detour” for the bicycle route that once aligned with the west side of the highway.

    “As we move closer to the end of the year,” said Brathwaite, “the Port will complete its construction of an underpass — which will be the east-west connector — then turn over ownership of the bike path and the remaining construction to Brookfield [Office] Properties.”

    Towers Two, Three, Four and Seven

    Malcolm Williams, construction manager for Silverstein Properties, the developer for Towers Two, Three and Four, said Tower Four is the farthest along among the W.T.C. buildings, with over 60 percent of the construction work already completed.

    “We’re starting to see the building taking the shape in the skyline of New York City,” said Williams.

    The building’s steel skeleton is 54 stories high, and its below-grade mechanical system is 90 percent complete. The building will be finished in late 2013.

    Construction of Two W.T.C., meanwhile, is currently above grade and continuing on schedule, according to Williams. Phase one of the project, he said, is slated for completion in the second quarter of 2012.

    “Coordination is continuing every day in terms of structural and mechanical coordination [with the Transportation Hub], and in terms of making sure all the pieces of the puzzle fit,” said Williams.

    Tower Three is progressing equally well, Williams said, and is being built differently from Towers Two and Four. The building’s concrete core is being built out prior to the floors and steel framing. The tower’s concrete is now above grade, said Williams, and the second floor will be finished by the end of October.

    Tower Seven, meanwhile, which was completed in 2006, is now fully occupied by tenants, according to Williams, since the recent lease-signing by investment firm MSCI for the building’s 48th floor.

    “We’re very proud of that building — not only as a company, but as an anchor part of the W.T.C. site,” said Williams. “It shows that companies have come back down and want to have a place here in Lower Manhattan.”

    Published by: Community Media, LLC

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    So... is it hopelessly hemmoraging money or right on track? Mixed signals, I think.

  12. #5622

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    One leads to the other.

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    Bloomberg
    October 20, 2011

    World Trade Center Bonds to Be Repaid After Port Authority Debt

    By Michelle Kaske

    Investors in a planned $1.3 billion bond deal to help rebuild the World Trade Center will be paid only after the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which oversees the project, pays off other debts in an agreement to let the sale proceed.

    The New York Liberty Development Corp., created to help finance construction of the Lower Manhattan complex, plans to sell the tax-exempt revenue bonds as soon as next month. The securities to finance 4 World Trade Center may yield about 5.25 percent, according to a resolution that the authority’s board approved today.

    While rent from the Port Authority will help repay the corporation’s so-called Liberty bonds, the agency must first pay principal and interest on its own debt, according to the resolution.

    Holders of $1.2 billion in Port Authority bonds said this year that their contracts keep the agency from paying other bondholders before them.

    Liberty, an arm of the state-created Empire State Development Corp., in April delayed a $900 million bond deal for the tower, citing market considerations.

    --With assistance from Esme E. Deprez in New York. Editors: Stephen Merelman, Ted Bunker

    To contact the reporter on this story: Michelle Kaske in New York at mkaske@bloomberg.net

    To contact the editor responsible for this story: Mark Tannenbaum at mtannen@bloomberg.net

    ©2011 BLOOMBERG L.P. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

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    New York Post
    October 25, 2011

    Andy, Mike fight over WTC $ecurity check

    By JOSH MARGOLIN

    There’s a new battle at Ground Zero, pitting Mayor Bloomberg against Gov. Cuomo over who is going to pick up the tab for the hundreds of millions of dollars in security projects to safeguard the streets around the World Trade Center, sources have told The Post.

    The dispute is playing out -- so far -- behind closed doors and has intensified in recent weeks as the Bloomberg administration grapples with a budget gap expected to worsen next year.

    Bloomberg dispatched one of his top lieutenants, Deputy Mayor Robert Steel, to lead City Hall’s negotiating team. His assignment: get the Port Authority, which controls the WTC site, to pay between $300 million and $500 million that was supposed to be covered by the city for security improvements to city streets.

    “The city insisted on these measures, but they don’t want to pay for it,” one PA source told The Post. “They just figured that the Port would cover it, but there’s no money and that’s been the message. And that’s coming right from Albany.”

    Cuomo spokesman Josh Vlasto insisted that the dispute does not involve his boss, who has a strained relationship with the mayor.

    “The governor’s office is not familiar with this issue and does not have a position,” Vlasto said.

    Bloomberg spokeswoman Julie Wood said only “we work in close partnership with the Port Authority on all aspects of the World Trade Center site, including the plan to keep it safe and secure.”

    Approved three years ago, the “WTC Campus Security Plan” calls for making the 16-acre trade center -- twice the target of terror attacks -- a high-tech modern-day fortress complete with retractable barricades, radiation detectors and an elaborate network of surveillance cameras.

    The agency refused to release the plan, saying it has to be kept confidential because it details security methods.

    When the city and PA inked the blueprint in 2008, one PA source said, “It was wink, wink, nod, nod. It was pretty clear back then that the city thought the PA was going to pay.”

    Since then, the PA -- controlled jointly by Cuomo and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie -- has seen its fortunes dwindle, leading the agency to push through a controversial toll hike over the summer. Now auditors are combing the books in the wake of criticism from both governors.

    And this month, Cuomo booted Bloomberg’s key ally at the PA, executive director Chris Ward.

    jmargolin@nypost.com

    Copyright 2011 NYP Holdings, Inc. All rights reserved.

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    Crane Info, from the November 2011 PANYNJ WTC Progress Report:

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