View Poll Results: Construction is underway, how do you feel about the final design for the WTC site?

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  • I am more than satisfied; I believe that the final design surpasses that of the original World Trade Center. 10/10

    50 26.46%
  • While nothing may ever live up to the Twin Towers, I am wholly satisfied with the new World Trade Center; it is a new symbol for a new era. 7/10

    54 28.57%
  • I have come to terms with the new World Trade Center; although it has a number of flaws, I find the design to be acceptable. 5/10

    47 24.87%
  • I am wholly disappointed with the New World Trade Center; we will live to regret the final design. 0/10

    22 11.64%
  • I am biased, but honest, and hate anything that is not a reincarnation of the original Twin Towers.

    16 8.47%
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    Getting rid of the Twin Weasels can't come soon enough.

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    That security plan is an absolute joke. Abuse of power, waste of money, ruination of a city grid. Give me a freaking break.

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    What about the airplane checkpoints, can cinderblocks reach that high??

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    This draconian plan should be no surprise to long time readers of WNY. We've been commenting for years that exactly such a plan is what is inevitable for roads running through and along the WTC site -- although the security encroachment into the surrounding area is more invasive than contemplated.

    But, Hey! Gotta make use of the Billion$ in Federal Security Funds that our tax dollars are paying for!

    The NYPD plan sorta kills the idea of re-instating the grid. Better to ban cars entirely from Greenwich, Fulton & Vesey. Given the current stance of NYPD / NYC, those big glass lobbies along Church look like a really expensive design error.

    All Hail the Super Block!

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    They just need to tone it down. Do they really need checkpoints before entering the VSC? Isn't that the entire point of the VSC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    All Hail the Super Block!
    Seriously, at this point, why even bother with the roads if nobody can drive on them? They should have just stuck with the superblock format at this point and had nice walking paths.

    Granted, 5-10-20 years from now, the security may be laxed to the point these roads are "all access" again....

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    This just demonstrates to me that the NYPD has no confidence in their terrorism prevention measures as well as safety engineering at the site. That's not a good signal to send to the public

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMAG View Post
    Seriously, at this point, why even bother with the roads if nobody can drive on them?
    You can have streets without cars. I don't think the problem is just vehicle access; it's an overbearing police presence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    This just demonstrates to me that the NYPD has no confidence in their terrorism prevention measures as well as safety engineering at the site.
    I think it's simply turf war between two police agencies.

    Is this the only prime terrorist target in the city? What about Hudson Yards, sitting over the #1 transit hub in the country?

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    Imagine the security requirements they'll install before folks can walk the High Line Section 3


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    The plain fact of the matter is that anyone who has the will to cause harm can do so. How much harm depends on the resources at their disposal. The best prevention measures are to monitor these resources, whether they be raw material movements for explosives, cash movements to fund operations, gun & ammo purchases, etc etc and surveillance of suspicious activities. That's all you can do because you can't lock down every subway entrance, overpass, prominent building, etc...


    At any time, anyone can walk in to a crowded area and kill multiple people. There is absolutely NOTHING that can be done to prevent that

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    Bottom line: Billion$ have been allocated for security costs, and all the agencies have to show they need the $$ and are putting it to use.

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    World Trade Center Campus Security Plan: Draft Scope of Work for an EIS [pdf; 32 pages]

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcman210 View Post
    They just need to tone it down. Do they really need checkpoints before entering the VSC? Isn't that the entire point of the VSC?
    And next it will be a checkpoint of the checkpoint of the checkpoint.

    (I sometimes wonder about the trucks checkpoint on Lower Broadway at Zuccotti that is supposed to protect the Wall St area from truck bombs.. what if a bomb went off at Broadway and Zuccotti?)

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    The NYPD has recently put up these hideous spy-tower contraptions in two of the street entrances to BPC South. I was hoping we would eventually be getting rid of them, but it seems like they are simply the sign of things to come.

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