View Poll Results: Construction is underway, how do you feel about the final design for the WTC site?

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  • I am more than satisfied; I believe that the final design surpasses that of the original World Trade Center. 10/10

    50 26.46%
  • While nothing may ever live up to the Twin Towers, I am wholly satisfied with the new World Trade Center; it is a new symbol for a new era. 7/10

    54 28.57%
  • I have come to terms with the new World Trade Center; although it has a number of flaws, I find the design to be acceptable. 5/10

    47 24.87%
  • I am wholly disappointed with the New World Trade Center; we will live to regret the final design. 0/10

    22 11.64%
  • I am biased, but honest, and hate anything that is not a reincarnation of the original Twin Towers.

    16 8.47%
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  1. #5686

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    The site of India Tower is actually pretty small. I don't think it's small enough to fit on the site of 5 WTC though. One of its three legs would probably have to be over the VSC, which would be a problem.


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  2. #5687

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    A quick photo-montage...



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  3. #5688

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    ^That design doesn't look too practical as far as floor space. Nice clear images on those other pics. Damn.

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    05.19.12


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    Last edited by Derek2k3; May 23rd, 2012 at 08:29 AM.

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    New York Times
    June 18, 2012

    CITY ROOM

    Cuomo and Christie Request Federal Financing for Sept. 11 Museum

    By MICHAEL SCHWIRTZ

    Amid the seemingly interminable wrangling over financing for the National September 11 Memorial Museum, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York and Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey sent a letter to the National Park Service on Saturday seeking federal money for the project.

    For months, disputes over financing and control of the eight-acre museum site at ground zero have hamstrung construction and delayed its opening until at least next year.

    A nonprofit foundation, led by Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, was given primary responsibility for the museum in a 2006 agreement signed by the city, the state and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

    But the Port Authority, which is run by Mr. Cuomo and Mr. Christie, has called for greater government oversight to help control ballooning construction costs and to manage the museum’s expected $60 million annual operating budget.

    “As governors of the states with jurisdiction over the World Trade Center site,” the governors wrote in the letter, “we believe that federal support through the National Park Service would ensure long-term stability of the memorial and museum, ensure the best possible visitor experience by taking advantage of the Park Service’s expertise.”

    Congress would have to approve the Park Service’s involvement in the project.

    At the behest of the Sept. 11 foundation, Senators Daniel K. Inouye, Charles E. Schumer and Kirsten E. Gillibrand introduced legislation last year that would authorize federal appropriations of up to $20 million a year for the museum provided those funds are matched by sources from outside the federal government. But members of the foundation have resisted attempts by the governors to interfere in the project, arguing that overall financing and control of the site should remain the purview of private donors.

    The foundation has raised $430 million in private donations and has received about $250 million in federal financing and $80 million from the state for the memorial. The Port Authority halted major work on the site last September, claiming the foundation owed as much as $300 million. The foundation denies it owes anything.

    The National September 11 Memorial Plaza at the World Trade Center site was opened last year to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people. When it is completed, the museum will stretch seven stories below ground that once supported the twin towers and exhibit relics from the attacks, including pieces of the towers and personal effects of some of the victims.

    © 2012 The New York Times Company

  7. #5692

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    Kick out the goofballs running the museum right now and turn it over to the Park Service. Please oh please do that, at least when it comes to running the place.

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    This just sounds like one of those things where people in charge and involved all have no backbone. Every time a vendor or designer suggests an expensive feature, they probably just collectively thought "oh well no expense is too high compared to the pain and suffering from 9/11, the government will pay for it anyways so let's just do it"

  9. #5694

    Default Here are the "THEY's"

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  10. #5695

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    I'm sure Billy and Bobby D are very busy working to fix the deadlock.

  11. #5696

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    And Jon Stewart is sparring with the jokes too.

    (they probably thought they were done)

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    And Jon Corzine has nothing but time on his hands.

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    New York Post
    June 26, 2012

    REALTY CHECK

    Diverse design at WTC

    By Steve Cuozzo

    Hours after his 4 World Trade Center topped off in the rain yesterday morning, Larry Silverstein sounded full of sunshine.

    Confident his beautiful 72-story office tower raised at warp speed by Tishman Construction would soon land commercial tenants, he was also thrilled at belated appreciation for its eloquent architecture by Fumihiko Maki.

    And while Maki’s firm is entirely responsible for 4 WTC’s design, Silverstein recalled a turning-point moment in the tower’s destiny when he met years ago with Skidmore Owings & Merrill partners David Childs and TJ Gottesdiener.

    It was shortly after 9/11 — before Childs would design Silverstein’s downtown-game-changing 7 WTC.

    Silverstein had first tapped Childs to improve certain features of the Twin Towers. After the attack, it was clear a new World Trade Center would eventually rise, although no one knew what it would be.

    As Silverstein recalls: “I said to David, ‘What would be your reaction if I asked you to design all the buildings?’

    “When I asked this, I saw TJ’s jaw drop — he went breathless,” Silverstein related. “David said it would be the commission of a lifetime or of 10 lifetimes. TJ was in ecstasy.

    “Then, David proceeded to say, ‘As a friend, I’d tell you that was a mistake.’ At which point I thought TJ was going to have a heart attack. He went from manic to depressive,” Silverstein laughed.

    “I thought TJ was going to shoot his partner. He was beside himself with anger.

    “But I got what David was saying. When you have one architect, you have the same language in all the buildings.”

    Silverstein said he preferred the sense of “diversity and excitement from different architects.”

    Childs’ advice ultimately led Silverstein to “starchitects” including Norman Foster, Richard Rogers — and Maki, whom Childs says he introduced to Silverstein. The developer tapped Foster for 2 WTC and Rogers for 3 WTC.

    Childs told us Silverstein’s account is “pretty close to the truth,” but he recalls having chats with him on several different occasions. (A call to Gottesdiener wasn’t returned.)

    One fateful talk occurred two years after 9/11, when Silverstein told Childs that then-Gov. George Pataki “insisted we move ahead on the Freedom Tower.” Childs recalls saying, “Larry, remember, we agreed we’ve got to have multiple architects.”

    But he says Silverstein told him, “I can’t proceed with this tallest building with someone I don’t know.”

    That led to Childs working for six years on two different designs for 1 WTC — which Silverstein later turned over to the Port Authority, and which Childs has all but renounced over alterations since made by the PA and the Durst Organization.

    At 2.3 million square-foot 4 WTC, the PA will make its headquarters in 800,000 square feet, while the city has a deal for 600,000 feet more.

    “Everything above the 43rd floor, with spectacular views, is available to commercial tenants,” Silverstein crowed.

    Copyright 2012 NYP Holdings, Inc. All rights reserved.

  14. #5699

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    West St southbound lanes.


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    If I'm not mistaken, they may first become temporary northbound lanes.

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