View Poll Results: Construction is underway, how do you feel about the final design for the WTC site?

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  • I am more than satisfied; I believe that the final design surpasses that of the original World Trade Center. 10/10

    50 26.04%
  • While nothing may ever live up to the Twin Towers, I am wholly satisfied with the new World Trade Center; it is a new symbol for a new era. 7/10

    55 28.65%
  • I have come to terms with the new World Trade Center; although it has a number of flaws, I find the design to be acceptable. 5/10

    48 25.00%
  • I am wholly disappointed with the New World Trade Center; we will live to regret the final design. 0/10

    22 11.46%
  • I am biased, but honest, and hate anything that is not a reincarnation of the original Twin Towers.

    17 8.85%
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  1. #6046


    The last quadrant of the memorial opened this morning. Not sure if the Greenwich Street passageway will open today as well, or tomorrow as noted in the article.

    Another note, the pedestrian bridge from the World Financial Center to Liberty park is closed and the temporary "arm" jutting off to the south has been demolished. Expect construction to start on the new extension soon.

  2. #6047


    Wow, that was quick. I'm guessing they're planning to move along with the rehab on West Street.

  3. #6048


    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp View Post
    In the days of the Ninth Ave El (service ended 1940), Greenwich St and West Broadway merged at Fulton St. The El ran from South Ferry over Greenwich St.

    WTC site pics from 8:06 - 11:24. Fulton St at 9:12.
    Pic in video at around 10:30 was probably taken from the top of the 140 West Street Barkley-Vesey building (if taken in late 20s or later). You can see the wedge shaped corner buildings along with the foundation work for 140 West in the 1924 aerial photo on NYCityMap.

    Also, looking at the aerial photo, there appears to be a some kind of bridge across West at the exact same spot as the current "south bridge."
    Last edited by Music Man; June 26th, 2015 at 11:19 PM.

  4. #6049


    Moody’s close to signing lease at 1 WTC

    By Steve Cuozzo

    July 6, 2015 | 4:34pm

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    Photo: Inset: EPA; main: Getty Images

    In a likely major coup for the Port Authority and the Durst Organization, Moody’s Investor Services is close to signing a lease for two floors at 1 World Trade Center, The Post has learned.
    A Moody’s move into 1 World Trade, jointly owned by the Port Authority and Durst, would be a roughly 80,000-square-foot expansion. The firm is headquartered in 680,000 square feet at Larry Silverstein’s 7 World Trade Center across the street. Moody’s could not grow there because the tower is full.

    All new leases at the “iconic” 1 World Trade matter, but Moody’s would be especially meaningful as the first financial-services company to take a sizable amount of space there.
    Moreover, it would be the first new, multi-floor office lease at 1 WTC since High 5 Games took 87,000 square feet last November. Deals signed since then have been for 12,000 feet and under.

    The imminent signing also marks a morale victory over Silverstein, who also owns 4 World Trade Center. As Moody’s landlord at 7 World Trade, where he has good tenant relationships, Silverstein would seem to have had an advantage over Durst and the PA in trying to lure Moody’s to 4 World Trade, where more than 1 million square feet remain available.
    Moody’s lease at 1 World Trade is not yet signed. Deals can fall apart, but downtown sources were confident that a done deal was in sight.

    Office tenants previously signed at 1 World Trade include Conde Nast, China Center, the US General Services Administration, High 5 Games and tech firm xAd. The tower’s 3 million square feet were already about 63 percent spoken for prior to the Moody’s lease.
    A Durst rep declined to comment. Reps for the Port Authority and Moody’s did not immediately get back to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariab View Post
    Moody’s close to signing lease at 1 WTC

    By Steve Cuozzo

    Moody’s lease at 1 World Trade is not yet signed. Deals can fall apart, but downtown sources were confident that a done deal was in sight.
    (Please let the deal with Fox and Silverstein's WTC 2 fall apart, please, please, please fall apart!!)

  6. #6051


    August 25, 2015

    There's a Leak at World Trade Center Feared to Be in River Wall: Sources

    By Murray Weiss

    A Port Authority Police Department banner is posted on a barbed wire fence outside Ground Zero and One World Trade Center on March 21, 2014.

    MANHATTAN — An underground leak has been discovered within the World Trade Center complex — and officials fear the seepage may be coming from the slurry wall that separates the newly rebuilt Ground Zero site from the Hudson River, DNAinfo New York has learned.

    Workers began to hear the sound of rushing water behind the walls of lower concourses of the complex within the last two weeks, according to sources.

    The discovery prompted the Port Authority to quietly call in engineering and construction experts to try to identify its cause, sources said.

    Crews were also tasked with dismantling sections of walls and other previous construction along lower subterranean concourses to try to get to the running water and trace its origin. The work is expected to be extremely costly, sources say.

    Sources say officials are concerned that the leak may be coming from a stretch of the 3,200-foot-long slurry wall that is hidden by other walls that house unopened commercial offices, retail shopping stores and underground warehouse space that are expected to be operational by next summer.

    They fear that the slurry wall may not have been properly insulated, allowing water to seep through it, sources said.

    The Port Authority spent tens of millions of dollars since 9/11 repairing the slurry wall after the Twin Towers collapsed.

    When it was built in the 1960s, the slurry wall was hailed as an engineering feat withholding the massive pressure of the Hudson River and giving construction crews the ability to open a massive 16-acre hole from which the original World Trade Center rose.

    The slurry wall is 4 feet thick and roughly 100 feet deep. Although a stretch along Liberty Street shifted more than 10 inches on 9/11, it managed to keep the Hudson River from breaking through and drowning the smoldering Ground Zero site with water.

    The wall’s emotional significance was immortalized when a portion was left exposed inside the National September 11 Memorial Museum.

    Asked about the running water and potential slurry wall issue, a Port Authority spokeswoman said engineers had no reports of running water or any known potential issues involving the site’s slurry wall.

    She even emailed photos of sections of the slurry wall that are visible along the PATH train tunnels to demonstrate that they are dry and intact.

    However, the sections of slurry wall that are of concern to the officials are hidden from view by the subterranean concourses, sources say.

    Depending on the severity of the problem, sources say, it could further delay the opening of the remaining concourse commercial space.

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  7. #6052


    Not surprising. The complex was built by a crime syndicate. What did anyone expect?

  8. #6053
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    what a disaster

  9. #6054


    Just lol if the rushing water description is correct. Yikes.

  10. #6055


    Quote Originally Posted by HoveringCheesecake View Post
    Just lol if the rushing water description is correct. Yikes.
    I heard rushing water in the 9/11 Museum back in December or January, but assumed that was normal...

  11. #6056


    The rushing crime syndicate are looking to find a way to keep their no show workers on the job

  12. #6057


    September 17, 2015

    World Trade Center developer gets new chance for damages


    World Trade Center developer Larry Silverstein over looking the site of the National September 11 Museum under construction poses for photographers at the World Trade Center in New York August 24, 2011.

    A federal appeals court has given the developer Larry Silverstein a new chance to recoup more money for rebuilding the World Trade Center site in New York, on top of the $4.1 billion of insurance proceeds he has received.

    The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said a lower court judge incorrectly calculated that Silverstein lost just $2.805 billion on his 99-year lease for the site, signed six weeks before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, and deserved no additional damages because insurance more than offset it.

    Thursday's decision by a three-judge panel clears the way for Silverstein and his World Trade Center Properties LLC to seek more damages from United Continental Holdings Inc, American Airlines Group Inc, and dozens of financial, real estate and security companies.

    Silverstein wants those defendants held responsible for their alleged negligence in failing to prevent the destruction of the Twin Towers by hijacked United and American planes.

    In a 70-page decision for the appeals court, Circuit Judge Debra Ann Livingston said the loss on Silverstein's lease should reflect "pre- and post-attack market values, with the post-attack values measured as if the leased buildings were not reconstructed."

    She also directed U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein, who oversees much of the Sept. 11 litigation and determined the $2.805 billion loss, to award Silverstein a higher rate of interest.

    The appeals court did hand Silverstein a setback, rejecting his effort to recoup money for rebuilding costs and lost rents.

    Although Silverstein was able to open One World Trade Center last November, he has said the lease obligated him to continue rebuilding, and that he remains billions of dollars short.

    "Today's decision re-opens the door for a jury to determine the extent of the airlines' and security companies' responsibility for their negligent actions on 9/11," a spokesman for the developer said. "The American public deserves a full and fair accounting."

    Roger Podesta, a lawyer for the defendants, was not immediately available for comment.

    Circuit Judge Chester Straub partially dissented.

    He said it was unclear whether New York law permitted Silverstein to recoup rebuilding costs, given his obligation to rebuild the site and the "public value" in doing so, and that the state's highest court should be consulted.

    Separately, the 2nd Circuit said United was not responsible for the destruction of 7 World Trade Center in the Sept. 11 attacks, because it was caused by the American flight.

    The case is In re: September 11 Litigation, 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, Nos. 13-3619, 13-3782.

    (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Andrew Hay)

  13. #6058


    WTC Progress on Facebook
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  14. #6059


    They just love taking it at that angle so that they can one day compare it with the full site rendering.

  15. #6060


    Commercial Observer
    October 14, 2015

    A Portrait of the Artists Documenting WTC’s Progress



    Before this past June, Conrad Stojak’s workspace was a friend’s garage in Queens.

    Today, the Jackson Heights-based artist, who is turning old parking meters into sculptures, works from the 67th floor of 4 World Trade Center. He likes water, so he chose the southwest corner—the one that offers unparalleled, unobstructed views of both Upper New York Bay and the Hudson River. It’s the ultimate studio, courtesy of Silverstein Properties.

    Courtesy, as in gratis.

    Long attached to the belief that art brings vitality, excitement and dimension to any landscape, after 9/11 Silverstein head Larry Silverstein invited artists to work in vacant spaces around the World Trade Center site. And, why not? The empty, unfinished floors look a little like a Soho artists loft in the sky. The space is divided up fairly loosely, with some artists taking a city view—others opting for the Battery. (One artist has an entire floor all to himself.) And these artists have been squatting in these WTC studios for more than a decade.

    Documentation of the reconstruction was all Mr. Silverstein asked in return.

    “It’s something that’s important to them, but also important to us,” Mr. Silverstein told Commercial Observer. “This is really a little way of producing a running documentation of what transpires daily, weekly, monthly, in a way people can understand and appreciate for generations to come. To keep a document is enormously important to us. They’ve done it so well.”

    Mr. Stojak’s work, its own sort of documentation, began as a donation from the Department of Citywide Administrative Services. Previously he was working, er, not in partnership, building mini-sculptures and planting flowers in place of time-declining clocks in broken meters on the street in the outer boroughs. Think snow globes with LED backlights. A current project will be Wi-Fi-enabled, so viewers will be able to manipulate the art with smartphones. The goal is to have the sculptures out on the street again.

    Art in public spaces is a favorite topic and mission of Mr. Silverstein.

    “It makes the place even more special,” Mr. Silverstein said. Every morning when he goes to his 7 World Trade Center office, he passes Jeff Koons’ red Balloon Flower sculpture in the mini-park out front, the James Carpenter steel screen that frames the building’s base, and the Jenny Holzer light-text installation in the lobby.

    “Art enhances the beauty and quality of a building,” Mr. Silverstein said. He is searching for art for buildings 2 and 3. In the meantime he’s thrilled by the art being created in his own house(s).

    Mike Marcucci’s 16 Acres, a documentary chronicling the development of the site, just won bronze at the Berlin architecture film festival and can now be watched via Netflix. Mr. Marcucci joined the artists’ colony, so to speak, in 2004 with the promise of a year’s worth of corporate work documenting moments like the Freedom Tower cornerstone ceremony and architectural meetings. Seven hundred hours of tape later, he’s still involved, and will be there until the end, perhaps with a sequel.

    “It’s a good time to be down here, everyone’s getting along,” Mr. Marcucci said after admitting his relief when he realized Mr. Silverstein was pleased with the film (Mr. Silverstein walked up to the podium to comment at the premiere). “It’s been an amazing opportunity to be here.”

    Mr. Marcucci escorted CO around the 40,000-square-foot 67th floor of 4 WTC, empty but for the work tables, paints, tools, dropsheets and exhibition space of artists, some there since 2013. He mentioned visits from Wounded Warriors, SEALs and family members of 9/11 victims as Todd Stone painted from his space along the north windows facing both rivers and the entirety of Manhattan, eventually to be minimally obscured by the rising 3 WTC.

    “I come in here every morning and it takes my breath away. This opportunity has allowed me to rebuild my spirit, to cross the [emotional] fence,” said Mr. Stone, who witnessed and endured the tragedy as a resident of the Western Union Building at 60 Hudson Street. “Silverstein offered me a chance to come inside and make contact with the resilience of the new building. It’s a nerve center here. People from all of the boroughs come down here to work. That’s what I’m chronicling.”

    He notes the change in colors of the site, from grays and blacks to circus-like reds and yellows as new paint is applied. Prior to 9/11, Mr. Stone said, his work was all about joyfulness. He was unable to access any of that joyful feeling. “I was living behind barricades. My work became about grief and isolation. I embraced the art form of the elegy and made the most beautiful things I could.”

    His personal progression is clear as you circle the floor and regard the paintings, some photorealistic, on the wall. His work will be exhibited in the 9/11 Memorial Museum in the coming year.

    “Downtown, down here, it’s the world. I know there are [tourists] in bikinis with selfie sticks but for me, it’s wonderful. It’s fulfilling the function as a place of healing,” said Mr. Stone.

    Marcus Robinson was painting in a lavender field in the south of France when his call came. It was spring 2005. The Cambridge-educated artist (he studied modern languages, was fascinated by architecture and urban renewal and is best known for his time-lapse films and photos) had given up on his idea to film directly on the WTC site, a project he’d imagined since 9/11.

    Then Silverstein Properties let him know The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey (the developer of 1 World Trade Center) had changed its mind. They were at least going to let him get started, he was told. “I jumped in the car, went to London, flew to New York.”

    Mr. Robinson began working at 7 WTC in 2006, moving to 4 WTC in 2012 (when 7 WTC was fully leased). Today, his grand piano and main workspace are situated in the northwest corner of the 66th floor, for reasons “prosaic, sort of unglamorous, unartistic and non-karmic”: summer heat and its opposite (unfinished air ducts pump in hurricane-like winds when air conditioning runs).

    The extremes of heat and cold in the building (he’s been inside since the glass was only half applied to the exterior) have helped inform his work, which often starts on plywood from the site. “Touched and beaten up by the construction workers it somehow transmogrifies into a painting,” he said, like his peers directly linking the art created here to the symbiosis of personalities, circumstance and, yes, magic.

    “There’s something extraordinary about the relationship of paintings and the site,” Mr. Robinson said. “A lot of the marks in the works are inspired from the textures of the site because wherever you look there are splashes of paint and marks and lines and some are being rubbed out.” His WPA-reminiscent, precisionist-like work highlights specific trades and the diversity of the workers and the larger community.

    “The randomness of the different nationalities and people who were killed—there’s something paradoxical about that happening in New York of all places, which is the one city in the world that celebrates people from all backgrounds and all cultures. So the art about that rebuilding should focus on that,” he said.

    Next year, the drawings and paintings Mr. Robinson created on site—at least 50—will be exhibited in Belfast, in the former drawing office at The Port of Belfast, where his dad worked in the 1940s. He also manages about a dozen cameras, placed in buildings around the neighborhood, capturing every passing moment. Rebuilding the World Trade Center, the documentary created in his first eight years on site, won a BAFTA Television Craft Award for Photography – Factual.

    When 4 WTC is leased, artists will be offered available space at 3 WTC, expected to open in 2018. The artists project will continue to 2020, when 2 WTC opens.

    “We’re on our way to finishing these buildings. It’s enormously rewarding,” said Mr. Silverstein. “Watercolor, oil, drawings, prints, photo, film; art brings it to life in a very real and definitive way that gives people an opportunity to appreciate what has transpired.”

    With documentation this moving, you almost wish the rebuilding would never stop.


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