WTC Tower One - by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill

**lofter1** · June 30th, 2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp

Why are we even calling it Freedom Tower?

I think something more politically nonndescript, like Vesey Plaza or Fulton Plaza, would ease the tension as to terrorism.

How about One World Trade Center?

Also, we've been hearing for weeks how the NYPD security concerns would require the new building to have a buffer zone of 90' from West Street. This has been repeated over and over in the press:

"It will be located 90 feet, rather than 25 feet, from West Street." (NY Sun, 6.30.05)

"Instead of being 25 feet from West Street, the tower will be set back 90 feet" (CNN, 6.29.05)

But the presentation on 6/29 clearly showed that the building will be 65' from West Street (see below).

What's up with that?

I'm beginning to think that JMGarcia's remark from 6.29( http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/sh...postcount=2150 ) was right on the mark: "If I were a betting man I would bet the NYPD was told to reject the first design and in such a way as to give Silverstein no choice but to go up."

As for Fulton Street: Notice that the main south entry to the Tower is ~ 25' from the street curb. IMO Fulton Street will never be an open street in the normal sense -- allowed onto this stretch of Fulton west of Greenwich Street will be black cars, limos, taxis (big maybe on taxis) and that's about it. I'm all for NO cars at all on that portion of Fulton.

**STT757** · June 30th, 2005, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp

Why are we even calling it Freedom Tower?

I think something more politically nonndescript, like Vesey Plaza or Fulton Plaza, would ease the tension as to terrorism.

I like One World Trade Center.

**BrooklynRider** · June 30th, 2005, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp

Why are we even calling it Freedom Tower?

I think something more politically nonndescript, like Vesey Plaza or Fulton Plaza, would ease the tension as to terrorism.

Let's just call her "Frida".

**pianoman11686** · June 30th, 2005, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by lofter1

How about One World Trade Center?

Also, we've been hearing for weeks how the NYPD security concerns would require the new building to have a buffer zone of 90' from West Street. This has been repeated over and over in the press:

"It will be located 90 feet, rather than 25 feet, from West Street." (NY Sun, 6.30.05)

"Instead of being 25 feet from West Street, the tower will be set back 90 feet" (CNN, 6.29.05)

But the presentation on 6/29 clearly showed that the building will be 65' from West Street (see below).

What's up with that?

The statement that it will be located 90 feet is meant to describe its average distance from West Street, which as you can see, decreases from 125 feet to 65 feet as you go south. I've heard a lot of reports say something to the tune of, "It will be located at least 40 feet further away from West Street."
I agree about the name change. I could go for 1 World Trade Center, but I also like One Fulton Street, as someone here mentioned a few pages ago.

Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp

Its crystalline shape recalls Libeskind's original plan and should relate well to the shorter, slice-topped office buildings that are supposed to spiral upwards to the Freedom Tower.

I hope this article is wrong in this statement. I was pretty sure the other four towers were going to be individually redesigned. Hopefully, we'll have a few different architects working together to produce some high quality buildings.

**NYguy** · June 30th, 2005, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by pianoman11686

I hope this article is wrong in this statement. I was pretty sure the other four towers were going to be individually redesigned. Hopefully, we'll have a few different architects working together to produce some high quality buildings.

They are. But until those designs come out, Libeskind's towers will be the "place holders", as we have seen in the renderings time and time again. Whatever idiot wrote that article should know that already.

**NYguy** · June 30th, 2005, 02:53 PM

The new and improved Freedom Tower will join the Jin Mao tower as my favorite new skyscraper.

Yes David, its tall all right...

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**JMGarcia** · June 30th, 2005, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by BrooklynRider

Let's just call her "Frida".

I prefer Blanche. But ya are Blanche, ya are.

I think its more fitting considering the verbal bullying and abuse this building is gone to get.

**Clarknt67** · June 30th, 2005, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Law & Order

I hate the name Freedom Tower, and the whole lighting idea at the top.

I've always hated the name Freedom Tower too, it recalls all that silliness with "freedom fries" and whatnot. Beside, Bushies are always reminding us the terrorist's "hate us for our freedom" so it does seem logical they would try to strike at our "Freedom Tower."

1 Fulton Street is great.

**Fabrizio** · June 30th, 2005, 04:12 PM

It sounds evangelical: "....broadcasting from the "Freedom Tower" on the campus of Oral Roberts University...."

**Ninjahedge** · June 30th, 2005, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Fabrizio

It sounds evangelical: "....broadcasting from the "F Tower" on the campus of Oral University...."

Or Catholic.......

**fioco** · June 30th, 2005, 05:11 PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this: From the LMDC web site Freedom Tower Fact Sheet

WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWER ONE

FREEDOM TOWER

**MrShakespeare** · June 30th, 2005, 05:37 PM

That is incredible news, Fioco! Thanks for posting - that made my day!

The sooner the towers are identified in this manner - by their proper, WTC name and number - the better. ....It is good to see that the PA has figured this out, even if the Governor is stuck with his "Freedom Tower" moniker.

**NYguy** · June 30th, 2005, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by MrShakespeare

That is incredible news, Fioco! Thanks for posting - that made my day!

The sooner the towers are identified in this manner - by their proper, WTC name and number - the better. ....It is good to see that the PA has figured this out, even if the Governor is stuck with his "Freedom Tower" moniker.

The Freedom Tower has always been mentioned as tower 1. That's just a fact, not an official name. It would probably be given the 1 WTC designation anyway.

Like it or not, the Freedom Tower name is here to stay, especially if Silverstein wants to take "WTC" out of the names anyway.

**BrooklynRider** · June 30th, 2005, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by NYguy

The Freedom Tower has always been mentioned as tower 1. That's just a fact, not an official name. It would probably be given the 1 WTC designation anyway.

Like it or not, the Freedom Tower name is here to stay.

Well, I'm calling her "Frida Towers". Sounds like a movie star.

**Johnnyboy** · June 30th, 2005, 08:05 PM

I hate the name Freedom Tower, and the whole lighting idea at the top.[/QUOTE]

I hate the Freedom Tower name too but the light on top I believe is beautifull. To me its very unique. Its something that will make the tower very special thought the world. If it is like shown on the video gallery in Skidmore Ownings and Merill's Website, Its a wonderfull sight. It gives it more a sence of importance.