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    About cramming in the Twin Towers, Bob was asking whether it technically was possible, and the answer is pretty much yes. And yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing a rendering with all those towers. Imagine a cluster of 1,000+ footers like that...in NYC no less. At this point in the city's life, the idea of us getting up to 5 supertalls is almost inconceivable (no, the NYTimes and BOA don't count), let alone crammed into one tight little corner like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    Methinks it would be a tad imposing with all that mass & height in such close proximity to each other.
    Umm, it's in Downtown, the birthplace of building height and density.

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    Yes ^ but nowhere near to the degree that is being talked about in this discussion.

    One aspect of the original 1 / 2 WTC that made them so powerful were the low rise 3 / 4 / 5 WTC buildings along Church St. -- and the Hudson to the West (and later Pelli's WFC "foothills" leading up to the peaks of the twins) -- thereby creating a sense of space around the towers.

    Cram a bunch of super talls all together and you get a massiveness that IMO just isn't very evocative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kznyc2k
    Imagine a cluster of 1,000+ footers like that...
    The base of each is ~ 200' / side.

    Line up three of those and you have a mass that, including sidewalks / streets, is ~750' wide and 1000' tall.

    Oppressive at street level.

    And does nothing for the skyline.

    Sometimes less IS more.

    Remember this:


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    or even better, this...


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    And stick the new GS HQ in that shot and really cringe.

    oy .... save us from bad starchitects ...

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    Cramming so many buildings on the site is probably the best way to guarantee that none of them will be higher than 800 ft.

    I sort of liked The Triscuit. It was so in tune with the times. Look at all the escape routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp
    I sort of liked The Triscuit. It was so in tune with the times. Look at all the escape routes.
    If you had a parachute

    The best solution for that might be a ziggurat (taller and less massive, please)...


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    Although I prefer the spiral ramp like this one in Samarra ...

    (But seeing as how this is a mosque it might raise some issues)
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    Where's Q-bert!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kznyc2k
    About cramming in the Twin Towers, Bob was asking whether it technically was possible, and the answer is pretty much yes. And yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing a rendering with all those towers.

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    It's cool to see the FT and the twins in context like that - nicely done. Now I like the shape of the FT more.

    I'm one who disagrees that nobody will work in the Freedom Tower - it's not the same building, not the same location, and in time it will be less of an issue. But I'm not so sure twin tower replicas could be refilled. In fact, it'd be sort of creepy to even look at them.

    But I'm a supertall enthusiast, so here's my solution: let Tower 5 be a 1,000'+ mixed-use.

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    To have tower 5 across from the lot be over 1000 feet would do well to balance out the site IMO. i like where you are going with that. that really sounds good

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    STR: Good effort with the imaging ... but no thanks!

    The twins without space around them to set them off -- especially the slice of space between them (which essentially disappears due to WTC2) -- renders them too heavy, too blocky.

    And the skyline gets a big blunt plateau.

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