Wow that 2000' Thingy is awesome :shock: !
I have faith that Freedom Tower will be a great building once it comes out on July 4th
About the 5 towers, The inscurance setback may just convince him to build less, I think 3 or four towers would work out better.
Hopefully the office section in the final tower (The lattice is likely to go all the way to 2000 now that libeskind is out of the picture) will be higher. Childs will most likely take away the sloped roof but hopefully it will be significantly more than 1000'. Respectivly half lattice and half building would be a trainwreck IMO. :?
I've been reading the LMDC website regarding developments of the Freedom Tower. I'm sure its not the most updated information, and probably not worded accurately, but make what you will of it:
A little more (from the GEIS):In terms of public exposure, in general, there would be a significant distance between the broadcast antenna and any publicly accessible locations (i.e., the highest location in Freedom Tower where the public would have access would be the observation deck at approximately 1,365 feet, and the broadcast antenna would extend from elevation 1,500 feet to elevation 1,776 feet). RFEMF levels sould decrease rapidly with distance. Consequently, RFEMF levels at publicly accessible locations would be expected to be relatively low. In terms of worker exposure, protective gear and other measures would be taken to ensure that workers servicing and maintining this equipment are not exposed to levels which would exceed applicable regulations or pose potential adverse health effects.
It's also mentions that other towers on the WTC site could also be topped with broadcast equipment.Freedom Tower would be the visual landmark of the Proposed Action in New York City's skyline. It would have approximately 70 floors of office, mechanical, and functional space. A viewing platform would be located atop the building and above that would be a broadcast tower at 1,776 ft. The viewing platform and the broadcast tower would replace those lost on September 11. Current plans call for the top of the structure: in the open area below the platform there will be the base for broadcast towers, to include an array of wind turbines. The buildings and the shape of the Freedom Tower are expected to allow the turbines to generate a significant amount of electricity to contribute to the buildin's power demands. This is an innovative application of an emerging technology, and the design, configuration, and power yield of the turbines are currently being studied by Silverstein Properties.
Yeah, I had read those a few months ago. Interesting about the obs deck. I wonder if that is the height of the cores.
That can't be true, The cores Terminate at 1430 feet, So is the deck below the cores?
Plus articles said the deck would be at 1500'
Libeskinds OLD verision had a deck there but he's gona and Childs is completely redesigning the tower...
That's not the current information. I posted both quotes because they contradicted each other. So you see, the thing is still in development (as far as the website is concerned). At least they don't still have the deck at 1,776 ft. Wouldn't it be ironic it that turned out to be the case?
Only 18 days until groundbreaking. Does anybody have any idea when we'll see what they intend to build? I know they have shown parts on the SOM press link but not where all the big issues are-the top. Will they wait until D-day to show?
And did I dream that they said they were bringing in a sculpture to work on the spire and adjacent structure after they did their "unveiling"???
I have a large fear it's gonna suck
According to an article in the Times from a month or so ago, the so-called "groundbreaking" is actually just the process by which Silverstein's crew will start dismantling the remains of the old WTC parking garage, which sits, largely undisturbed, on the FT site. The actual construction of the building won't begin for a while. Thus, there is still plenty of time for Childs et al to tinker with the design, if they want to.Originally Posted by Christopher X
Thats total BS, we've waited long enough, they near to get their asses in gear and build.According to an article in the Times from a month or so ago, the so-called "groundbreaking" is actually just the process by which Silverstein's crew will start dismantling the remains of the old WTC parking garage, which sits, largely undisturbed, on the FT site. The actual construction of the building won't begin for a while. Thus, there is still plenty of time for Childs et al to tinker with the design, if they want to.
The normal engineering and design timeline for a building of this magnituted would normally be a couple of years. So it wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't completely spec'ed out by July 4th.
I will be extremely disappointed if we don't get new renderings though.
(From the WTC redevelopment GEIS)
Project Schedule
For the purposes of impact assessment, and in the absence of a formal construction plan, a conceptual construction schedule has been developed for all construction activities on the Project Site.
Most construction activities are expected to commence in September 2004. Prior to any major construction commencing on site, a comprehensive program of utility relocation would be undertaken that would require removal of the street surfaces on Church, Vesey, and Liberty STreets and Broadway.
By the end of 2005, the full build out of the sub-grade space of the site would have commenced; this would involve the construction of sub-grade retail, concourse, and utility space in all areas of the site except the area beneath the temporary PATH concourse (which would be excavated following the construction of an alternative temporary exit to Church Street for PATH passengers). As part of this work, the foundations and core of the Freedom Tower would be constructed early. For the purposes of impact assessment, it is assumed that the building would be built using a rapid floor-to-floor cycle and that interior fit-out may lag well behind installation of the structural steel. The topping out of the Freedom Tower up to the 70th floor, exclusive of the iconic top, is anticipated in the 3rd quarter of 2006. Approximately in mid-2006, the fit-out and istallation of the curtain wall for the Freedom Tower would commence.
High-rise Office Tower Construction
The Proposed Action includes the construction of five high-rise commercial office towers that would reinstate over 10 million square feet of office space on the Project Site. Of particular relevance to this analysis would be the construction of the Freedom Tower, as schedule constraints would require this building to be constructed at an accelerated pace. As such, this discussion would make reference to this structure.
It is expected that the towers would be founded directly on to rock and that piled foundations would not be used. Dependent upon the final structural design, rock anchor bolts may or may not be used to provide lateral stability to the core and external columns. Rock anchor bolts are installed with a drilling rig that embeds a permanent anchor deep into the rock strata. As the base of the excavation is cleared, large spread concrete footings are constructed to support the base of the external and core columns.
It is expected that the primary structure of the building would be comprised of structural steel columns and beams, with in-fill concrete floors. The core (the structural spine of the building that usually encases the elevator shafts, mechanical, HVAC, and other services) would be constructed of reinforced concrete. In high-rise construction, the installation of the structural steel precedes the pouring of the concrete floors by six to eight floors. It is anticipated that these would be installed in tiers of approximately two stories. The sequence of construction below the structural steel erection level is anticipated as follows:
1. Two to four floors below the point of initial erection, the building structure would be plumbed, bolted and metal deck pourstops and shear studs installed;
2. Five to six floors below - concrete on metal deck floors would be placed;
3. Seven to eight floors below - the reinforced concrete core would be placed;
4. Nine to 10 floors below - concrete slabs within core structure (elevator landings etc.) would be placed;
5. 11 to 12 floors below - spray-on fireproofing would be installed; and
6. 13 to 14 floors below - curtain wall installation and fit-out would commence. Note: due to concerns regarding axial deflection of the strcture due to its self-weight, this activity may be delayed by as much as 20 floors (four months minimum).
This process is repeated up to the top of the building including the roof deck. After each concrete floor is poured, work would be started on the underside of the deck. This would include the installation of hangers for and the hanging of HVAC ductwork, piping, plumbing, fireprotection, electrical condits and other above ceiling systems as well as systems that penetrate floor to floor. At the same time, the operations stairs platforms and concrete block wall enclosures would be constructed.
In typical high-rise construction, the installation of the pre-fabricated curtain wall would lag about three months behing the pouring of the floor decks. In the case of the construction of the Freedom Tower, this activity may be delayed due to the schedule considerations that place priority on completion of the structural steel, and due to structural considerations related to the axial deflection of the steel fram due to the building's self-weight. After the curtain wall is connected to the structure, the fit out of the interior systems and architectural installation would commence.
If construction were to be accomplished on a fast track basis it is anticipated that two sets of two construction passenger elevators, two construction freight elevators and four tower cranes would be utilized. During the first 14 months of construction, it is expected that the tower cranes would be constantly employed erectiing structural steel. Structural steel would be delivered to the Project Site and either immediately hoisted and installed, or stored temporarily on site until needed.
Freedom Tower Construction Phasing
2nd quarter 2005 - 3rd quarter 2006.......Freedom Tower structural framing
2nd quarter 2006 - 3rd quarter 2008.......Freedom Tower fitout and curtain wall
That's really bizarre, it will take 2 years untill the facade even starts. The complete 70 storey structure will just stand there, looming without a single spandrel or window.
The freedom tower is only going to be 70 stories? What happened to the tallest in not only NYC but the world?
Haven't you heard the news? That's how we define World's Tallest Building now...at least until someone comes to their senses.The freedom tower is only going to be 70 stories? What happened to the tallest in not only NYC but the world?
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